Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I honestly think the reason why super athletic QBs aren't great passers, and they're usually African-Americans, are cause their coaches in highschool and college don't hone their passing skills the same as they do non athletic guys who have to rely on passing. They're just depending on them running and throwing wide open passes because teams are hesitant of the player running. That doesn't work as well in the pros unless you're a super freak like Lamar, and even then that has its limitations.
these young super athletic QBs growing up need to tell these coaches no, hone their passing. That way they're TRUE dual threats.
i assess a qb by saying "if I don't run him at all, like a traditional qb, can he stand in the pocket and pass the ball properly?" If not, I don't want them. Because the run stuff will eventually fade and/or wear them down. They need to get better coaching like the non athletic guys do so they're super QBs.
historically, most super athletic QBs struggle to get even 60% completion. That's bad and it's a Trend for a reason. It'll eventually change but I believe that's a huge problem with them coming into the pros.
I think the reason is because they are so naturally gifted and the best athletes on the field that they don't work on the QBing aspects.
Then when they do, their body and mind aren't trained for it. So even though they work on it, when bullets start flying they resort back to what they know.
That is part of the reason I don't believe in QBs fixing accuracy once they get into the league. When the bullets start flying, your footwork, mechanics or "flight" instincts resort back to what they know.
It seemed like Trey's showcase was a good example. Game was close, he was struggling passing went back to running.
I don't think race has anything to do with it. I also don't put the blame on the coaches. A lot of the time it's the QB running. When the coaches are the ones calling it, there's usually a good reason why. Remember they have a job to do too. Families to feed
Agree with both. Awesomely great points.
These dual threat QBs are so talented physically that it slows their passing development down in the ways you both mentioned above. The key for Kyle is patience. Walsh kept Steve and didn't trade him despite looking like a crap QB for the longest time. Unfortunately the Cap is a barrier to doing that long term nowadays. Now it went both ways, Steve could have demanded a trade and/or could have been difficult with Walsh once he did develop into a decent QB, but he stayed with Walsh and didn't want to leave Walsh.
I don't know if it will be the same with Trey. In other words if I was Trey and my rookie contract is up, do I go for the money, or stay with Kyle and continue to get coached up? Again assuming Kyle keeps Trey for the entirety of Treys rookie contract.
WTF did I just read? Don't want Brock back until week 8-10? 