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From the beginning of last season, I was on the "play Trey from day 1" train. But what Purdy is doing is demonstrably better than any Niners QB has done during the Shanahan era.

Any offseason talk is irrelevant, other than the fact that Purdy shows that Jimmy is redundant and expensive. It also seems unlikely for the FO to pursue another QB in FA.

Our QB's going into 2023 season will be Purdy and Lance. Unless Purdy wins a SB and/or continues on this pace to the SB but loses while putting up a huge game (like Josh Allen last year), it'll be a competition.

We'll have two very promising young QBs and the money to play Bosa, etc.

And people are complaining??
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Honestly, I feel like the organization is always evolving in how they evaluate and prioritize physical traits, which is a good thing. Football is constantly changing, so the good organizations need to adjust their player evaluation according to what's happening in the league.

Although, there has been one constant: they put an absolute premium on high-character players, especially after taking a swing and miss on Reuben.

Not just good character but guys are that are genuinely passionate about football and really love to play, after taking a swing and miss on Pettis.
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
From the beginning of last season, I was on the "play Trey from day 1" train. But what Purdy is doing is demonstrably better than any Niners QB has done during the Shanahan era.

Any offseason talk is irrelevant, other than the fact that Purdy shows that Jimmy is redundant and expensive. It also seems unlikely for the FO to pursue another QB in FA.

Our QB's going into 2023 season will be Purdy and Lance. Unless Purdy wins a SB and/or continues on this pace to the SB but loses while putting up a huge game (like Josh Allen last year), it'll be a competition.

We'll have two very promising young QBs and the money to play Bosa, etc.

And people are complaining??

The Niners are in a great QB situation this year, but it would be unfair to either Trey or Purdy to ride the bench. One of them needs to be traded in the offseason for a 1st or 2nd round pick based on Jimmy's value when he commanded a 2nd when he only had 2 starts under his belt.
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
From the beginning of last season, I was on the "play Trey from day 1" train. But what Purdy is doing is demonstrably better than any Niners QB has done during the Shanahan era.

Any offseason talk is irrelevant, other than the fact that Purdy shows that Jimmy is redundant and expensive. It also seems unlikely for the FO to pursue another QB in FA.

Our QB's going into 2023 season will be Purdy and Lance. Unless Purdy wins a SB and/or continues on this pace to the SB but loses while putting up a huge game (like Josh Allen last year), it'll be a competition.

We'll have two very promising young QBs and the money to play Bosa, etc.

And people are complaining??

No one should be. It's a great position to be in.

Jaelen Phillips might be our Mo Lewis.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Honestly, I feel like the organization is always evolving in how they evaluate and prioritize physical traits, which is a good thing. Football is constantly changing, so the good organizations need to adjust their player evaluation according to what's happening in the league.

Although, there has been one constant: they put an absolute premium on high-character players, especially after taking a swing and miss on Reuben.

Not just good character but guys are that are genuinely passionate about football and really love to play, after taking a swing and miss on Pettis.

I think that's why they have success in the later rounds. They're finding football junkies in the later rounds would put the extra time in even if they weren't paid.
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
From the beginning of last season, I was on the "play Trey from day 1" train. But what Purdy is doing is demonstrably better than any Niners QB has done during the Shanahan era.

Any offseason talk is irrelevant, other than the fact that Purdy shows that Jimmy is redundant and expensive. It also seems unlikely for the FO to pursue another QB in FA.

Our QB's going into 2023 season will be Purdy and Lance. Unless Purdy wins a SB and/or continues on this pace to the SB but loses while putting up a huge game (like Josh Allen last year), it'll be a competition.

We'll have two very promising young QBs and the money to play Bosa, etc.

And people are complaining??

The Niners are in a great QB situation this year, but it would be unfair to either Trey or Purdy to ride the bench. One of them needs to be traded in the offseason for a 1st or 2nd round pick based on Jimmy's value when he commanded a 2nd when he only had 2 starts under his belt.

Neither one will be traded, especially if Purdy helps this team win it all.
[ Edited by VaBeachNiner on Dec 27, 2022 at 1:00 PM ]
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
From the beginning of last season, I was on the "play Trey from day 1" train. But what Purdy is doing is demonstrably better than any Niners QB has done during the Shanahan era.

Any offseason talk is irrelevant, other than the fact that Purdy shows that Jimmy is redundant and expensive. It also seems unlikely for the FO to pursue another QB in FA.

Our QB's going into 2023 season will be Purdy and Lance. Unless Purdy wins a SB and/or continues on this pace to the SB but loses while putting up a huge game (like Josh Allen last year), it'll be a competition.

We'll have two very promising young QBs and the money to play Bosa, etc.

And people are complaining??

The Niners are in a great QB situation this year, but it would be unfair to either Trey or Purdy to ride the bench. One of them needs to be traded in the offseason for a 1st or 2nd round pick based on Jimmy's value when he commanded a 2nd when he only had 2 starts under his belt.

I disagree with so much of this. I disagree about "fair". I couldn't care less. The objective is to win. Both guys are under contract.
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
The Niners are in a great QB situation this year, but it would be unfair to either Trey or Purdy to ride the bench. One of them needs to be traded in the offseason for a 1st or 2nd round pick based on Jimmy's value when he commanded a 2nd when he only had 2 starts under his belt.


If Purdy continues to the play like we've seen through a deep playoff run, and the team trades him in the offseason.... we riot.
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
From the beginning of last season, I was on the "play Trey from day 1" train. But what Purdy is doing is demonstrably better than any Niners QB has done during the Shanahan era.

Any offseason talk is irrelevant, other than the fact that Purdy shows that Jimmy is redundant and expensive. It also seems unlikely for the FO to pursue another QB in FA.

Our QB's going into 2023 season will be Purdy and Lance. Unless Purdy wins a SB and/or continues on this pace to the SB but loses while putting up a huge game (like Josh Allen last year), it'll be a competition.

We'll have two very promising young QBs and the money to play Bosa, etc.

And people are complaining??

The Niners are in a great QB situation this year, but it would be unfair to either Trey or Purdy to ride the bench. One of them needs to be traded in the offseason for a 1st or 2nd round pick based on Jimmy's value when he commanded a 2nd when he only had 2 starts under his belt.

I don't think there's anything unfair about either one being QB2 if they have a fair training camp battle and one wins out over the other. This season has shown us we need depth at QB.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
The Niners are in a great QB situation this year, but it would be unfair to either Trey or Purdy to ride the bench. One of them needs to be traded in the offseason for a 1st or 2nd round pick based on Jimmy's value when he commanded a 2nd when he only had 2 starts under his belt.


If Purdy continues to the play like we've seen through a deep playoff run, and the team trades him in the offseason.... we riot.

LMAO. I always thought Kyle could build a later round QB factory here and trade them for higher draft picks nearly every year. But this one feels different.
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
From the beginning of last season, I was on the "play Trey from day 1" train. But what Purdy is doing is demonstrably better than any Niners QB has done during the Shanahan era.

Any offseason talk is irrelevant, other than the fact that Purdy shows that Jimmy is redundant and expensive. It also seems unlikely for the FO to pursue another QB in FA.

Our QB's going into 2023 season will be Purdy and Lance. Unless Purdy wins a SB and/or continues on this pace to the SB but loses while putting up a huge game (like Josh Allen last year), it'll be a competition.

We'll have two very promising young QBs and the money to play Bosa, etc.

And people are complaining??

The Niners are in a great QB situation this year, but it would be unfair to either Trey or Purdy to ride the bench. One of them needs to be traded in the offseason for a 1st or 2nd round pick based on Jimmy's value when he commanded a 2nd when he only had 2 starts under his belt.

Who cares what's unfair to them if it's what best for the 9ers.
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If you combined Brock and Jimmy you would get this with good QB play.

https://youtu.be/u9pWHDNdSR0
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
From the beginning of last season, I was on the "play Trey from day 1" train. But what Purdy is doing is demonstrably better than any Niners QB has done during the Shanahan era.

Any offseason talk is irrelevant, other than the fact that Purdy shows that Jimmy is redundant and expensive. It also seems unlikely for the FO to pursue another QB in FA.

Our QB's going into 2023 season will be Purdy and Lance. Unless Purdy wins a SB and/or continues on this pace to the SB but loses while putting up a huge game (like Josh Allen last year), it'll be a competition.

We'll have two very promising young QBs and the money to play Bosa, etc.

And people are complaining??

To me the biggest advantages that Brock has over Lance are:

1. Experience. Brock started all throughout high school and started all throughout college. He has thousands more QB reps and it shows. The footwork is a lot more clean, he appears to be more decisive and hangs in there when things fall apart around him because unlike Lance playing at NDSU which is the Alabama+Georgia of the FCS, Purdy always played on teams that were typically lesser talented than their opposition. He was regularly expected to pull plays out of his butt for his his teams to be able to compete. Lance had to come in and just run the system and let the talent win out, he was doing more of what Purdy is expected to do now with the 49ers when he was playing for NDSU.

2. The release. Purdy has a much more compact throwing motion and the ability to throw from a wide variety of angles that you just haven't seen from Trey. He's got a much more laborious delivery that does somewhat telegraph to defenders where the ball is going. Its something that you can definitely work with, see Philip Rivers who had one of the ugliest throwing motions that I've ever seen, but he made it work for him and was a top QB for many years. The Chargers even moved on from Drew Brees in favor of him. Brock is closer to Jimmy with the ability to get rid of it quickly, even in tight spaces.

3. Agility. Lance is more north-south fast but not really agile. Purdy isn't really fast but he's got agility that allows him to elude defenders in the backfield to a degree that I we haven't seen from a 49ers QB since Jeff Garcia. I think with experience, Lance can develop his pocket presence and movement more but he doesn't appear to have the same quick feet or lateral movement that Purdy does.
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
From the beginning of last season, I was on the "play Trey from day 1" train. But what Purdy is doing is demonstrably better than any Niners QB has done during the Shanahan era.

Any offseason talk is irrelevant, other than the fact that Purdy shows that Jimmy is redundant and expensive. It also seems unlikely for the FO to pursue another QB in FA.

Our QB's going into 2023 season will be Purdy and Lance. Unless Purdy wins a SB and/or continues on this pace to the SB but loses while putting up a huge game (like Josh Allen last year), it'll be a competition.

We'll have two very promising young QBs and the money to play Bosa, etc.

And people are complaining??

The Niners are in a great QB situation this year, but it would be unfair to either Trey or Purdy to ride the bench. One of them needs to be traded in the offseason for a 1st or 2nd round pick based on Jimmy's value when he commanded a 2nd when he only had 2 starts under his belt.

I disagree with so much of this. I disagree about "fair". I couldn't care less. The objective is to win. Both guys are under contract.

yeah, it's a business. Lots of players are backups. that's football. We have two young QBs on rookie deals. There is absolutely zero reason to trade either of them.
[ Edited by Oregon49erfan on Dec 27, 2022 at 1:15 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
From the beginning of last season, I was on the "play Trey from day 1" train. But what Purdy is doing is demonstrably better than any Niners QB has done during the Shanahan era.

Any offseason talk is irrelevant, other than the fact that Purdy shows that Jimmy is redundant and expensive. It also seems unlikely for the FO to pursue another QB in FA.

Our QB's going into 2023 season will be Purdy and Lance. Unless Purdy wins a SB and/or continues on this pace to the SB but loses while putting up a huge game (like Josh Allen last year), it'll be a competition.

We'll have two very promising young QBs and the money to play Bosa, etc.

And people are complaining??

To me the biggest advantages that Brock has over Lance are:

1. Experience. Brock started all throughout high school and started all throughout college. He has thousands more QB reps and it shows. The footwork is a lot more clean, he appears to be more decisive and hangs in there when things fall apart around him because unlike Lance playing at NDSU which is the Alabama+Georgia of the FCS, Purdy always played on teams that were typically lesser talented than their opposition. He was regularly expected to pull plays out of his butt for his his teams to be able to compete. Lance had to come in and just run the system and let the talent win out, he was doing more of what Purdy is expected to do now with the 49ers when he was playing for NDSU.

2. The release. Purdy has a much more compact throwing motion and the ability to throw from a wide variety of angles that you just haven't seen from Trey. He's got a much more laborious delivery that does somewhat telegraph to defenders where the ball is going. Its something that you can definitely work with, see Philip Rivers who had one of the ugliest throwing motions that I've ever seen, but he made it work for him and was a top QB for many years. The Chargers even moved on from Drew Brees in favor of him. Brock is closer to Jimmy with the ability to get rid of it quickly, even in tight spaces.

3. Agility. Lance is more north-south fast but not really agile. Purdy isn't really fast but he's got agility that allows him to elude defenders in the backfield to a degree that I we haven't seen from a 49ers QB since Jeff Garcia. I think with experience, Lance can develop his pocket presence and movement more but he doesn't appear to have the same quick feet or lateral movement that Purdy does.

Agreed on all points. Unless we win it all, and this is some kind of Kurt Warner / Tom Brady magic, it'll most likely be a competition in the offseason. And we should have SB aspirations with either / both.

And Shanahan gets his QBs injured at a higher rate than the league average, so we'll probably need both anyway.
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