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What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

  • dj43
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by dj43:
I don't have an answer to any of your questions. *surprise*

What I do know is that the shoulder capsule is a large group and any injury in one place may have a greater or lesser impact than an injury in a different area. Think of the capsule as a sleeve that fits over the end of the humerus (arm bone) and attaches to the shoulder blade. In order to function well, all areas must have the correct tension in order to throw well. Garoppolo's injury obviously was sufficient to reduce his ability to throw. The question then is; did the surgery restore that balance? No one will know until he starts to throw again.

We also know that some people heal faster while others struggle with the same surgical procedure. I've known people that had knee surgery and recovered quickly and others that continues to have issues. One thing I would be a little concerned with in Jimmy's case is him injuring something else during rehab if he favors that shoulder. He gets hurt so easily that it's a real possibility.

That is why we wait until we are sure he is fully recovered. MM suggested he hurt his shoulder by favoring his injured thumb. In my research on the subject, one of the examples given was baseball pitchers that suffered the same type of injury while favoring an unrelated injury.
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:

You guys have too much time

I gotta admit this is good

I mean it's not good for us but it's funny.

I haven't met one person who said Jimmy G was a crown jewel unless it was during that end of 2017 period

It's a reference to a media article quote
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Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by lamontb:
No team is making a deal for this guy when during the draft or during TC. It's just pure hope from posters praying they didn't botch this trade. It's rare that a qb is traded during TC. by that time most teams will just stick with the cheaper in house route b/c he's already been in the playbook for months. especially when you are just bringing in a average qb like Jimmy. He's gonna be on the roster next year in my opinion.

We cutting him soon as he clears physical. But people here think Lynch gonna come out and say that today. 😂
I doubt it. Why would we wait all that time and not wait another few weeks to get compensation?

What's waiting a few weeks get us?

Draft pick.

How? I am confused.

If we cut him as soon as he clears his physical, we get cap relief. However, if we wait a few more weeks until he clearly demonstrates he can throw well, and we find a trade partner, we get both cap relief and a draft pick. Hence, I see no reason to be hasty in cutting him.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by lamontb:
No team is making a deal for this guy when during the draft or during TC. It's just pure hope from posters praying they didn't botch this trade. It's rare that a qb is traded during TC. by that time most teams will just stick with the cheaper in house route b/c he's already been in the playbook for months. especially when you are just bringing in a average qb like Jimmy. He's gonna be on the roster next year in my opinion.

We cutting him soon as he clears physical. But people here think Lynch gonna come out and say that today. 😂
I doubt it. Why would we wait all that time and not wait another few weeks to get compensation?

What's waiting a few weeks get us?

Draft pick.

How? I am confused.

If we cut him as soon as he clears his physical, we get cap relief. However, if we wait a few more weeks until he clearly demonstrates he can throw well, and we find a trade partner, we get both cap relief and a draft pick. Hence, I see no reason to be hasty in cutting him.

I can agree to that, as long as his cap number isn't getting in the way of Deebo extension keep him till TC. He cant start the new season on the roster.
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
I haven't met one person who said Jimmy G was a crown jewel unless it was during that end of 2017 period



The Jimmy fans were saying right as the season ends that "the draft sucks and there isnt a single QB available who was better than Jimmy."

Now, I will concede that I personally didnt believe Wilson or Watson would be on the move, and that I let some poster on here convince me that the above quote could be true.

Well its clear now that it was and is not true.
Originally posted by dj43:
That is why we wait until we are sure he is fully recovered. MM suggested he hurt his shoulder by favoring his injured thumb. In my research on the subject, one of the examples given was baseball pitchers that suffered the same type of injury while favoring an unrelated injury.

It's easy to do. I've had back problems for over 60 years and often times one side will hurt if I was favoring the other. Had the same issue with my elbow when I injured it. I was compensating for the weakness there and started having shoulder problems. All the parts need to work in unison.
Originally posted by MoeJontana84:

Welp there it is. No one offered a damn thing

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/157147-lynch-doesnt-foresee-49ers-releasing-garoppolo-situation-remains/

Still don't think there's a possibility that Jimmy starts the season on the 49ers roster?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by MoeJontana84:

Welp there it is. No one offered a damn thing

Cause Twitter is the facts only website?

Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by dj43:
I don't have an answer to any of your questions. *surprise*

What I do know is that the shoulder capsule is a large group and any injury in one place may have a greater or lesser impact than an injury in a different area. Think of the capsule as a sleeve that fits over the end of the humerus (arm bone) and attaches to the shoulder blade. In order to function well, all areas must have the correct tension in order to throw well. Garoppolo's injury obviously was sufficient to reduce his ability to throw. The question then is; did the surgery restore that balance? No one will know until he starts to throw again.

We also know that some people heal faster while others struggle with the same surgical procedure. I've known people that had knee surgery and recovered quickly and others that continues to have issues. One thing I would be a little concerned with in Jimmy's case is him injuring something else during rehab if he favors that shoulder. He gets hurt so easily that it's a real possibility.

That is why we wait until we are sure he is fully recovered. MM suggested he hurt his shoulder by favoring his injured thumb. In my research on the subject, one of the examples given was baseball pitchers that suffered the same type of injury while favoring an unrelated injury.

I think the play where he injured his shoulder clearly shows he didnt want to put his hand down to brace his fall....so he landed on his shoulder. I dont think it was because he was favoring the injured thumb, which caused stress elsewhere. Its because he landed on his shoulder without bracing his fall.
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by MoeJontana84:

Welp there it is. No one offered a damn thing

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/157147-lynch-doesnt-foresee-49ers-releasing-garoppolo-situation-remains/

Still don't think there's a possibility that Jimmy starts the season on the 49ers roster?


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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by MoeJontana84:

Welp there it is. No one offered a damn thing

Cause Twitter is the facts only website?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by MoeJontana84:

Welp there it is. No one offered a damn thing

Cause Twitter is the facts only website?

1, We still have Jimmy on the roster
2. This guy didn't post 2 3rds and Quenton Nelson for Jimmy trade so he is already more credible
3. I know it's a hard pill to swallow that a guy that we value more than the rest of the league isn't valued the same way by the rest of the league
Originally posted by MoeJontana84:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by MoeJontana84:

Welp there it is. No one offered a damn thing

Cause Twitter is the facts only website?

1, We still have Jimmy on the roster
2. This guy didn't post 2 3rds and Quenton Nelson for Jimmy trade so he is already more credible
3. I know it's a hard pill to swallow that a guy that we value more than the rest of the league isn't valued the same way by the rest of the league

Oh I don't value Jimmy at all. Hell I had people losing their minds comparing him to Gardner Minshew and Sam Darnold. I just don't trust twitter
Originally posted by MoeJontana84:

Welp there it is. No one offered a damn thing

Yeah, but guys like him and he's a good locker room presence.
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