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Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Just to recap:
Found a home -
Carson Wentz
Mitch Trubisky
Russell Wilson
Deshaun Watson
Strong interest -
Jameis Winston
Baker Mayfield
Twisting in the wind -
Jimmy Garoppolo
Crown jewel of 💩💩💩💩💩
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Why would anyone want him at 26 million. As an outsider would you ?.....
Everyone points to the record but they tend to forget that this team is run first and at times is dominant in the running game. The playoff run in 2019 tells the tale. Can you had the ball off? And when he is called upon he s**ts the bed. He is average at best and the record is more a product of the team than JG and its not even an agrument. He is over rated by many. Just put him on a team that expect him to win games for them he will show his true colors. Hell, Pitt decide to go with Mitch. What does that say to you.
That is why we might get a Snickers bar for him in a trade. If we can get more its gravy.
The hard part about evaluating Jimmy is we don't know what percentage of his success is due to the system he plays in and the plays drawn up for him, and how much transferable to any system regardless of play and play caller.
Here is what we do know:
1. By now defenses know that he will be throwing the ball primarily over the middle in short to intermediate passes, and have surely game planned for it, and seem to be still unable to stop it for the most part.
2. Shanahan often calls 2 plays in the huddle, and allows the QB to check to one or the other. If you go back and watch his games, look for plays where he say "can" before the play, that means he switched to the 2nd play. If the play was successful after, that usually means he switched to the right play, what's even more impressive, is when he switches to a successful run play, which means, he is willing to give up his own personal glory and stats for team success. FWIW, there were rumors of Wentz ignoring what the coaches told him to do, and trying to do it his own way.
3. The players all go to bat for him publicly, and there has not even been 1 off the record report of anyone who is frustrated with him or his play. There also has been no off the record reports of teammates that wanted Trey to get more game reps.
4. Finally, Shanahan, told us by his actions that he believed a big percentage of the team success was due to Jimmy's play and not necessarily just his play calling. And Lynch is also telling us what he believes by playing hardball with other teams and not settling for reportedly just 1 2nd round pick.
It is action not words that matter. Try and rationalize the situation all you want, the 49ers actions have said loud and clear JG is not a QB they believe is good enoigh.
So far, GMs looking for a QB are not pirsuing a trade for JG because beyond a Snickers bar, they dont want to give up draft capital and salary cap tesourves for a QB that cant even play average without a major support cast.
Like I said, I agree that their actions say they believe Jimmy is not a top 5-10 QB, or at the very least that they can't win with him, if they have to spend more that 27 Mil on his salary.
However, you can't have it both ways. If they thought he was a bad as most fans do, they would have taken the first offer they got for him.
And like I said, the fact that the Colts and the Saints haven't signed Mariota or Winston means there actions are telling us that they believe his is a better option as well, as long as it is at the right price.
If the Saints and Colts were enamored with JG and as good as people think he would have been traded by now.
We really dont know what the 49ers stance is I am not aware of any deal that was turned down by the 48ers so the benchmark is pure speculation. To a degree the market will dictate the value not the 49ers Why wouldnt the 49ers try and maximize the value but if they want to trade him they will need to bend if they want to move on. Snickers really satisfies.
You can't have it both ways, if they liked Winston and Mariota more than Jimmy, they would have signed them by now as well. Especially the Colts because they weren't waiting on Watson.
Originally posted by mayo49:
No one is going to want Jimmy's bloated salary. I think he eventually get's released.
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by mayo49:
No one is going to want Jimmy's bloated salary. I think he eventually get's released.
I am leaning that way too. Would love to get some value but not counting on it.
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by okdkid:
My understanding is Baker Mayfield has told the #browns he'd like to be traded to the #colts. There is interest from the Colts per sources. We'll see where this goes, the two sides haven't even talked just yet.
— James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) March 18, 2022
Colts from one douche bag to another.
Shows you exactly how highly they think of Jimmy.
Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
We're going to keep him for one more year and get a comp pick for him. No way we're just going with Trey and Suddfield and Lynch won't let him go for peanuts.
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
It's just mind blowing at this pt how SF would rather worry about a day 2 pick vs a $25M cap relief to go get proven guys
100%....just makes little to no sense
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Since he screwed us with that delayed surgery and his No Trade Clause has expired, let's just get back at him by shipping him off to Cleveland! Oh Wait...
Originally posted by mayo49:
No one is going to want Jimmy's bloated salary. I think he eventually get's released.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by okdkid:
My understanding is Baker Mayfield has told the #browns he'd like to be traded to the #colts. There is interest from the Colts per sources. We'll see where this goes, the two sides haven't even talked just yet.
— James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) March 18, 2022
Colts from one douche bag to another.
Shows you exactly how highly they think of Jimmy.
Or they're trying to drive down the 49ers' asking price.
I'll say this though: back when I was convinced there's no way Jimmy would be back to back up Trey (assuming he stayed and Trey beat him out in a fair competition), that was when I was very sure that some team in the NFL actually wanted Jimmy. All this news has made me question that. But, again, it could just be the Colts want Jimmy for cheap and the 49ers refuse to get less than a second+.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
No one is going to want Jimmy's bloated salary. I think he eventually get's released.
There is no bloated salary though. The only gtd cash he has is $7.5M right now. No one wants Jimmy because he's hurt (again) and not an amazing QB.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
No one is going to want Jimmy's bloated salary. I think he eventually get's released.
There is no bloated salary though. The only gtd cash he has is $7.5M right now. No one wants Jimmy because he's hurt (again) and not an amazing QB.
What about the $25M?
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by okdkid:
My understanding is Baker Mayfield has told the #browns he'd like to be traded to the #colts. There is interest from the Colts per sources. We'll see where this goes, the two sides haven't even talked just yet.
— James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) March 18, 2022
Colts from one douche bag to another.
Shows you exactly how highly they think of Jimmy.
Or they're trying to drive down the 49ers' asking price.
I'll say this though: back when I was convinced there's no way Jimmy would be back to back up Trey (assuming he stayed and Trey beat him out in a fair competition), that was when I was very sure that some team in the NFL actually wanted Jimmy. All this news has made me question that. But, again, it could just be the Colts want Jimmy for cheap and the 49ers refuse to get less than a second+.