What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Wow the Dophins with their new HC wonder if they go all in for JG

Owner wants to keep Tua.

That should have been a red flag to turn down the job. McDaniel might be making a McStake.

The one issue that will weigh in when a team thinks about a trade is his injury history. If it was just about his ability to play well enough to help a good team then a 2nd or even a late 1st would be in play. But then if the team looks at availability it's a different story.

We traded a 2nd for Ford who's injury history wasn't any worse than Jimmy's is now and the team got very little out of him. Because he's pass rusher that hurt but the Niners were able to find other guys to play halfway decent. It's not that easy to find a good backup for the QB as we saw twice.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by elguapo:
Wentz has an injury history as well so Jimmy G should get at least a 2nd and a 4th imo, if not more

In addition, Jimmy is well known as a very positive locker room presence where Wentz, while not destructive, does not have near the presence JG has.

That's also a good point in our favor that hasn't been discussed too much. He's a coach's dream.

Very true...MMQB had a couple paragraphs of approval for how Jimmy handled the situation and tutored Lance. If a team wants to win a superbowl now, they'll offer the farm for Rodgers/Wilson if available. If they want a very good leader with locker room presence who knows how to win games and tutor their QB of the future, Jimmy is the guy. Guys like Jimmy keep GMs and coaches employed, which can't be understated.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Wow the Dophins with their new HC wonder if they go all in for JG

Owner wants to keep Tua.

That should have been a red flag to turn down the job. McDaniel might be making a McStake.

Yeah, but the word now is McDaniel likes Tua and they will build the team around him.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The one issue that will weigh in when a team thinks about a trade is his injury history. If it was just about his ability to play well enough to help a good team then a 2nd or even a late 1st would be in play. But then if the team looks at availability it's a different story.

...except he played reasonably well with two injuries this year.

The normal approach to protect the team is to include a conditional pick. So, a 2nd this year pus a 2023 conditional 5th that becomes a 4th based on snaps.

The "injury" issue is not a big deal. Teams deal players all the time that have had injuries. It is just the nature of a violent game.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Wow the Dophins with their new HC wonder if they go all in for JG

Owner wants to keep Tua.

That should have been a red flag to turn down the job. McDaniel might be making a McStake.

Yeah, but the word now is McDaniel likes Tua and they will build the team around him.

Mostert is going there now

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Wow the Dophins with their new HC wonder if they go all in for JG

Owner wants to keep Tua.

That should have been a red flag to turn down the job. McDaniel might be making a McStake.

Yeah, but the word now is McDaniel likes Tua and they will build the team around him.

Mostert is going there now

Ya I could see that.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Wow the Dophins with their new HC wonder if they go all in for JG

Owner wants to keep Tua.

That should have been a red flag to turn down the job. McDaniel might be making a McStake.

Yeah, but the word now is McDaniel likes Tua and they will build the team around him.

Mostert is going there now

Ya I could see that.

Let the poaching begin.

I don't see Rodgers being traded. Period. He will be 39 in December. He had a great season this past year but he does not move as well as he did 3-4 years ago. Another two years is the max one could expect for him. Would any team give up 2 #1 picks for a guy who will only play for two years? I don't think so.

Also, Rodgers and Adams have pretty much agreed they are a package deal, along with MVS. If GB doesn't keep one, the other leaves. With Jordan Love clearly being a disappointment to this point, there is no way Adams stays if Rodgers leaves. Gutekunst (GB GM) will make it happen to keep them both.

Just talked Rodgers out of the discussion. I see no way he impacts the value of Garoppolo in trade. All Rodgers might do is impact the location of Jimmy.

Originally posted by dj43:
I don't see Rodgers being traded. Period. He will be 39 in December. He had a great season this past year but he does not move as well as he did 3-4 years ago. Another two years is the max one could expect for him. Would any team give up 2 #1 picks for a guy who will only play for two years? I don't think so.

Also, Rodgers and Adams have pretty much agreed they are a package deal, along with MVS. If GB doesn't keep one, the other leaves. With Jordan Love clearly being a disappointment to this point, there is no way Adams stays if Rodgers leaves. Gutekunst (GB GM) will make it happen to keep them both.

Just talked Rodgers out of the discussion. I see no way he impacts the value of Garoppolo in trade. All Rodgers might do is impact the location of Jimmy.

I mean, I agree with you that Rodgers probably isnt going anywhere. But I dont see how he doesnt impact the value of Jimmy in trade if he IS traded. Maybe I am misunderstanding you and you meant that IF Rodgers stays that doesnt impact Jimmy's value...which I agree with. But if Rodgers IS traded, I think Jimmy's return takes a hit because that is one less team potentially fighting for his services.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Wow the Dophins with their new HC wonder if they go all in for JG

Owner wants to keep Tua.

That should have been a red flag to turn down the job. McDaniel might be making a McStake.

Tua is left handed Jimmy. I see no reason to give up draft capital and pay more cash for Jimmy.

Originally posted by mayo49:
Yeah, but the word now is McDaniel likes Tua and they will build the team around him.

Actually its's ownership likes Tua and were looking for a coach who agrees. We will see. He could still change their minds.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by dj43:
I don't see Rodgers being traded. Period. He will be 39 in December. He had a great season this past year but he does not move as well as he did 3-4 years ago. Another two years is the max one could expect for him. Would any team give up 2 #1 picks for a guy who will only play for two years? I don't think so.

Also, Rodgers and Adams have pretty much agreed they are a package deal, along with MVS. If GB doesn't keep one, the other leaves. With Jordan Love clearly being a disappointment to this point, there is no way Adams stays if Rodgers leaves. Gutekunst (GB GM) will make it happen to keep them both.

Just talked Rodgers out of the discussion. I see no way he impacts the value of Garoppolo in trade. All Rodgers might do is impact the location of Jimmy.

I mean, I agree with you that Rodgers probably isnt going anywhere. But I dont see how he doesnt impact the value of Jimmy in trade if he IS traded. Maybe I am misunderstanding you and you meant that IF Rodgers stays that doesnt impact Jimmy's value...which I agree with. But if Rodgers IS traded, I think Jimmy's return takes a hit because that is one less team potentially fighting for his services.

Technically speaking, if Rodgers is traded, the amount that's traded for him can effect Jimmy's potential trade scenario positively as well. If a bidding war is done for both Rodgers and Wilson, that high price can be a positive to what teams trade for Jimmy.

Not saying it will happen that way, but you never know until free agency and trade season begins.

I don't see how Jimmy won't get SF some decent value in a trade. SF would get what a 3rd or 4th rd comp if he signed as a FA?

This draft is poop at QB and realistically I highly doubt Rogers/Wilson/Watson are all getting moved this off season.

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Yeah, but the word now is McDaniel likes Tua and they will build the team around him.

Actually its's ownership likes Tua and were looking for a coach who agrees. We will see. He could still change their minds.

When he was first hired, Kliff Kingsbury spoke as if Josh Rosen would be his guy. McD being in MIA makes them a possible player for Jimmy imo. Never know.