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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
https://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/49ers-Hill-lost-helmet-gained-respect-3185973.php




When I first saw that pic of Trey, I didn't know it was from the game. Thought it was like one of those old school poses they used to do back in the 50's lol.
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I'm not sure why we're still doing the comparison between Jimmy n Lance....from what I saw Sunday ...a fresh 21 year old out there with grown ass men balling on a sorry ass scheme from his coach... Looked ok. Did he look raw at times yes....does he give you a better chance to win then Jimmy....NOW....yes. He had good pocket awareness, stepped up in it when needed, avoided sacks. Some erratic throws,some dimes! The only thing Jimmy brings over him at this point( mind you he hasn't even played much, raw ,young the whole nine) is a much faster release. Jimmy does the same erratic throws with some dimes takes sacks though and his pocket awareness isn't even on par with Treys in addition he brings no escapabity and no designed QB runs. Can't even say PA is on par because Trey can make deep throws he can't. With all that said I liked Jimmy but at this point the rook can do everything he can AND will get better with playing. At least that's the thought no?!?
Originally posted by cjsmoove:
I'm not sure why we're still doing the comparison between Jimmy n Lance....from what I saw Sunday ...a fresh 21 year old out there with grown ass men balling on a sorry ass scheme from his coach... Looked ok. Did he look raw at times yes....does he give you a better chance to win then Jimmy....NOW....yes. He had good pocket awareness, stepped up in it when needed, avoided sacks. Some erratic throws,some dimes! The only thing Jimmy brings over him at this point( mind you he hasn't even played much, raw ,young the whole nine) is a much faster release. Jimmy does the same erratic throws with some dimes takes sacks though and his pocket awareness isn't even on par with Treys in addition he brings no escapabity and no designed QB runs. Can't even say PA is on par because Trey can make deep throws he can't. With all that said I liked Jimmy but at this point the rook can do everything he can AND will get better with playing. At least that's the thought no?!?

right or wrong. I want Trey to start to fast track his development. But with all the hotseat talk now, I think Kyle will stick with Jimmy and try to get a winning record. Since thats what hes been "winning" with.

But honestly speaking, they are probably rushing Jimmy back. Which is usually not a good sign. There's a good chance he'll re-injure himself.
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
What about these rumors that Lafleur screwed over Shanahan on draft day. Had a deal in place and asked for JG and Lance at 3 but backed out after….maybe SF wasn't taking Lance at 3? other reports after draft came out saying Rodgers thought he'd be a niner too…

it's all wild rumors

So the packers would have JG, Lance and Love ? Doesn't sound right.
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Originally posted by mitpdub:
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
What about these rumors that Lafleur screwed over Shanahan on draft day. Had a deal in place and asked for JG and Lance at 3 but backed out after….maybe SF wasn't taking Lance at 3? other reports after draft came out saying Rodgers thought he'd be a niner too…

it's all wild rumors

So the packers would have JG, Lance and Love ? Doesn't sound right.

That is a wild rumor.
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
What about these rumors that Lafleur screwed over Shanahan on draft day. Had a deal in place and asked for JG and Lance at 3 but backed out after….maybe SF wasn't taking Lance at 3? other reports after draft came out saying Rodgers thought he'd be a niner too…

it's all wild rumors

Yeah that makes sense. Why wouldn't they just ask for #3 so they could take Lance? We can file this in the flat earth file.
The kid was pretty good in the pistol formation allowing play action to buy him some time.

They should consider developing him like the Ravens did with Lamar Jackson in his second year.

Pistol on 1st and 2nd down

Shotgun on 3rd and long

Under center on 3rd or 4th and short.
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
What about these rumors that Lafleur screwed over Shanahan on draft day. Had a deal in place and asked for JG and Lance at 3 but backed out after….maybe SF wasn't taking Lance at 3? other reports after draft came out saying Rodgers thought he'd be a niner too…

it's all wild rumors

Lafleur: "We want you to give us Jimmy and then draft Lance and trade him to us."

Kyle: "Be easier if we just trade you Jimmy and #3."

Lafleur: "No, this only works if YOU draft Lance, then trade him to us."

Kyle: "Well, seems fishy, but I'll go for it."

Lafleur: "Gotcha!"

That's what you really think happened, huh?
Originally posted by JTB1974:
On that 4th and 1 play was Juice suppose to toss the ball to Lance? I watched the replay again and Trey looked surprised that he didn't get the ball. And Trey was moving to his left like he was expecting a toss.

Yea, and it looks like Trent Williams was surprised too as he pulls out to the left.
Originally posted by Franchise408:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lol complaining about his inexperience and refusing to let him play to get experience.

your one of the dudes that wants him to sit, then calls him a bust when he has to come in and play because ol' Jimmy jam has a tight calf or whatever else is bothering him this week.

And you're (*) one of those dudes who starts punching air whenever Jimmy succeeds and does everything you can to try to downplay it.

Nope not at all…if he plays well I will said he did. I want whomever is playing for SF to be good.

ya'll take Jimmy and any criticism of him wayyyyyyyyy too personal, like he's your brother or something.

I root for the team not just one person
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Oct 13, 2021 at 12:38 AM ]
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
On that 4th and 1 play was Juice suppose to toss the ball to Lance? I watched the replay again and Trey looked surprised that he didn't get the ball. And Trey was moving to his left like he was expecting a toss.

Juice was tryna play hero. They ran the exact same play against GB/SEA and worked. Cardinals saw the exact same formation with Juice motioning to under Center and both LBs came down and plugged both A gaps. Trey would've took that to the house if Juice didn't play hero and tossed him the damn ball.

We ran that play vs tha Packers to convert a 4th down. Juice f**ked up big time. Trey would have a walk in TD with Mitchell and Trent leading the way. You can see Trent Sheffield coming in for the crack block to set the edge.

[ Edited by Bay2Bay9erAllday on Oct 13, 2021 at 12:39 AM ]
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
On that 4th and 1 play was Juice suppose to toss the ball to Lance? I watched the replay again and Trey looked surprised that he didn't get the ball. And Trey was moving to his left like he was expecting a toss.

Juice was tryna play hero. They ran the exact same play against GB/SEA and worked. Cardinals saw the exact same formation with Juice motioning to under Center and both LBs came down and plugged both A gaps. Trey would've took that to the house if Juice didn't play hero and tossed him the damn ball.

We ran that play vs tha Packers to convert a 4th down. Juice f**ked up big time. Trey would have a walk in TD with Mitchell and Trent leading the way. You can see Trent Sheffield coming in for the crack block to set the edge.


Great play call that is now on film and can't catch anyone off guard.
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
On that 4th and 1 play was Juice suppose to toss the ball to Lance? I watched the replay again and Trey looked surprised that he didn't get the ball. And Trey was moving to his left like he was expecting a toss.

Juice was tryna play hero. They ran the exact same play against GB/SEA and worked. Cardinals saw the exact same formation with Juice motioning to under Center and both LBs came down and plugged both A gaps. Trey would've took that to the house if Juice didn't play hero and tossed him the damn ball.

We ran that play vs tha Packers to convert a 4th down. Juice f**ked up big time. Trey would have a walk in TD with Mitchell and Trent leading the way. You can see Trent Sheffield coming in for the crack block to set the edge.


Great play call that is now on film and can't catch anyone off guard.

Gotta wonder if Mack's sweaty ass messed up the snap lol.
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
best case scenario for anyone not living in fantasy land

Rookie: red shirt season/ learning Shannys complex playbook

sophomore: first year as full-time starter with a year of studying the playbook under his belt, still green as a player, but ton of promise with a good chance to compete in the playoffs

3rd season: he's ready to go, shows us why we traded so much for him as the team contends for a super bowl and Trey becomes a yearly mvp candidate

It's not even about the playbook though...Kyle said the kid had no problem digesting it. The problem is he hasn't played football. His rookie yr will be his sophomore yr if he doesn't play meaningful snaps this yr.

Learning the playbook doesn't mean anything if you don't get to apply it during live reps (game speed). You can watch all the film in the world, but that means nothing if you can't see it with guys coming down on you every play... It's much different seeing cover 0 pre-snap only to see them switch to zone with JJ Watt/Jones coming down on you vs a coach asking you what you would do while watching the film... You can't replicate that by sitting on the bench.

IMO I think he should start as soon as he's healthy. I get Jimmy going in if Kyle truthfully thinks he gives this team a massively better chance to win ( I don't think there's that much of an advantage though, just my opinion). BUT as soon as he either gets hurt again, plays like avg joe, or loses a couple games, Trey without question should play and should play for the rest of the season.
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