All Pro OT Trent Williams

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Since the $10M gets added to his base salary, which was $22.21M, any team would need $33.06M to acquire him, most teams don't have anywhere near that much in cap room.

Thanks for the update. Always appreciated.

Any time

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Yeti:
When have the 49ers replaced anyone on the offensive line in the draft?

2018

Yeah, it's been awhile. Too long in my opinion. But I can see them using the first round pick on the BA OT left on the board, OR an LT that fits Kyle's offense. Remember, Kyle LOVES to pull his tackles and guards on running plays. We saw a lot of that out of TW three seasons ago when nobody could touch CM around the left side. Those sweep plays were absolutely legendary. I think that's the kind of ball attack that both Kyle and John want to get back too. So you need an athletic type of tackle that can really move. I think you also have the backs in CM and Jordan James. I am looking for a big year out of JJ.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Since the $10M gets added to his base salary, which was $22.21M, any team would need $33.06M to acquire him, most teams don't have anywhere near that much in cap room.

Thanks for the update. Always appreciated.

Any time

So wha' does it all mean? Is he stuck with us?

Originally posted by braap49er:
I personally don't care if we resign him or not. Every time this dude runs out of guaranteed money, he holds out and becomes a prima donna.

Can you blame him? In nfl contracts, guarantees are all you really have.

its annoying as a fan who wants the team to have as much cap space as possible and everything to go well but Trent is just doing what's best for him and his family - same way the team will when they don't deem him worth it anymore (any player really).

I just hope it doesn't drag out and become an issue like previous years have.

the unsung hero since 2017 is Jed - he uses a ton of cash to make the salary cap work year in and year out. Very few owners do that. Jed will once again fork up 10s of millions of dollars to make the Trent deal work.

Originally posted by jakedogg:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Since the $10M gets added to his base salary, which was $22.21M, any team would need $33.06M to acquire him, most teams don't have anywhere near that much in cap room.

Thanks for the update. Always appreciated.

Any time

So wha' does it all mean? Is he stuck with us?

I wouldn't say stuck, but yeah I don't see him being traded or released, they'll work out a new deal soon IMO, hopefully before the 23rd of April which is night 1 of the draft.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by braap49er:
I personally don't care if we resign him or not. Every time this dude runs out of guaranteed money, he holds out and becomes a prima donna.

Can you blame him? In nfl contracts, guarantees are all you really have.

its annoying as a fan who wants the team to have as much cap space as possible and everything to go well but Trent is just doing what's best for him and his family - same way the team will when they don't deem him worth it anymore (any player really).

I just hope it doesn't drag out and become an issue like previous years have.

the unsung hero since 2017 is Jed - he uses a ton of cash to make the salary cap work year in and year out. Very few owners do that. Jed will once again fork up 10s of millions of dollars to make the Trent deal work.

Hero? C'mon now. The 49ers are worth $8.5 billion and raked in over $700 million in 2024. That's not even talking about the stadium hosting Superbowls and the upcoming World Cup. Let's not pretend there isn't a very healthy ROI in these negotiations.

Originally posted by InfernoDaLuz:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by braap49er:
I personally don't care if we resign him or not. Every time this dude runs out of guaranteed money, he holds out and becomes a prima donna.

Can you blame him? In nfl contracts, guarantees are all you really have.

its annoying as a fan who wants the team to have as much cap space as possible and everything to go well but Trent is just doing what's best for him and his family - same way the team will when they don't deem him worth it anymore (any player really).

I just hope it doesn't drag out and become an issue like previous years have.

the unsung hero since 2017 is Jed - he uses a ton of cash to make the salary cap work year in and year out. Very few owners do that. Jed will once again fork up 10s of millions of dollars to make the Trent deal work.

Hero? C'mon now. The 49ers are worth $8.5 billion and raked in over $700 million in 2024. That's not even talking about the stadium hosting Superbowls and the upcoming World Cup. Let's not pretend there isn't a very healthy ROI in these negotiations.

regardless of how well this team does financiall (which is also directly correlated to the teams W/L column) - jed is the core reason why every year we do what we do with the salary cap, As owner, Jed pays for pretty much first class everything. Kittle talked about it on a podcast a week ago, niners pay for player treatments, nutritionist coach and free food across the board. most teams dont do that.

Most owners don't fork up cash every single off season to help the team salary cap, most teams don't treat the players families as well as 49ers do, most teams don't provide the same amenities to the players as the 49ers do. Jed isn't perfect but he deserve credit for that. he could be pocketing tens of millions a year and instead, he puts it back into the team to try and help them compete for a SB.

He isn't perfect and has made mistakes, no doubt, but he's been an awesome owner with Kyle and John, IMO.

Since 2019, the 49ers have frequently ranked in the top five for cash spending:2024: Ranked 1st ($334 million).2023: Ranked 6th.2021: Ranked 5th.2020: Ranked 5th.2019: Ranked 3rd.

EVERYTIME we restructure a contract to change money to a signing bonus but spread it out over time - Jed has to pay that money up front to the player. Jed is at the top of the league when it comes to this and it's huge for how we manipulate the salary cap every year.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by jakedogg:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Since the $10M gets added to his base salary, which was $22.21M, any team would need $33.06M to acquire him, most teams don't have anywhere near that much in cap room.

Thanks for the update. Always appreciated.

Any time

So wha' does it all mean? Is he stuck with us?

I wouldn't say stuck, but yeah I don't see him being traded or released, they'll work out a new deal soon IMO, hopefully before the 23rd of April which is night 1 of the draft.

But if a deal isn't struck Trent needs to show up to receive his weekly checks? I wonder if there's training camp bonuses. Also since there isn't a guarantee he can be cut at anytime, but we take a larger cap hit?

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by InfernoDaLuz:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by braap49er:
I personally don't care if we resign him or not. Every time this dude runs out of guaranteed money, he holds out and becomes a prima donna.

Can you blame him? In nfl contracts, guarantees are all you really have.

its annoying as a fan who wants the team to have as much cap space as possible and everything to go well but Trent is just doing what's best for him and his family - same way the team will when they don't deem him worth it anymore (any player really).

I just hope it doesn't drag out and become an issue like previous years have.

the unsung hero since 2017 is Jed - he uses a ton of cash to make the salary cap work year in and year out. Very few owners do that. Jed will once again fork up 10s of millions of dollars to make the Trent deal work.

Hero? C'mon now. The 49ers are worth $8.5 billion and raked in over $700 million in 2024. That's not even talking about the stadium hosting Superbowls and the upcoming World Cup. Let's not pretend there isn't a very healthy ROI in these negotiations.

regardless of how well this team does financiall (which is also directly correlated to the teams W/L column) - jed is the core reason why every year we do what we do with the salary cap, As owner, Jed pays for pretty much first class everything. Kittle talked about it on a podcast a week ago, niners pay for player treatments, nutritionist coach and free food across the board. most teams dont do that.

Most owners don't fork up cash every single off season to help the team salary cap, most teams don't treat the players families as well as 49ers do, most teams don't provide the same amenities to the players as the 49ers do. Jed isn't perfect but he deserve credit for that. he could be pocketing tens of millions a year and instead, he puts it back into the team to try and help them compete for a SB.

He isn't perfect and has made mistakes, no doubt, but he's been an awesome owner with Kyle and John, IMO.

Since 2019, the 49ers have frequently ranked in the top five for cash spending:2024: Ranked 1st ($334 million).2023: Ranked 6th.2021: Ranked 5th.2020: Ranked 5th.2019: Ranked 3rd.

EVERYTIME we restructure a contract to change money to a signing bonus but spread it out over time - Jed has to pay that money up front to the player. Jed is at the top of the league when it comes to this and it's huge for how we manipulate the salary cap every year.

I don't disagree with any of that. I like Jed but that desire to win the SB and subsequently having deep runs into into the playoffs also brings a financial windfall. Treating players and staff in a first class manner, and being one of the NFL's crown jewels, also makes the organization desirable for said people. Both things can be true, being a good owner and reaping rewards.

When the word hero gets thrown around is when it's nonsensical.

Anyway, hope a deal gets done for one more year of Trent and SL finally address the OL in the draft.

Originally posted by InfernoDaLuz:
I don't disagree with any of that. I like Jed but that desire to win the SB and subsequently having deep runs into into the playoffs also brings a financial windfall. Treating players and staff in a first class manner, and being one of the NFL's crown jewels, also makes the organization desirable for said people. Both things can be true, being a good owner and reaping rewards.

When the word hero gets thrown around is when it's nonsensical.

lmao what upsets you in this whole thing is saying "unsung hero". lol it's football - no one is a true "hero", IMO. it's just a figure of speech.

although if you really want to get super technical - you can make a case that Jed is a "hero" for this franchise. just depends on which definition you use.
- someone that actively chooses to do good, and succeeds in doing so.
- a person who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.
- person who is admired by many people for doing something brave or good.
etc

so it gets sort of subjective. just weird that have issue with it, IMO. Ultimately, Jed deserves a ton of credit for this team's success cause he enables the FO/Coaches to do stuff that a lot of other teams won't do. Jed has talked about how it's a benefit to not be a public company - can have lower years in "take home" to put it back into your team.

Originally posted by tankle104:
lmao what upsets you in this whole thing is saying "unsung hero". lol it's football - no one is a true "hero", IMO. it's just a figure of speech.

although if you really want to get super technical - you can make a case that Jed is a "hero" for this franchise. just depends on which definition you use.
- someone that actively chooses to do good, and succeeds in doing so.
- a person who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.
- person who is admired by many people for doing something brave or good.
etc

so it gets sort of subjective. just weird that have issue with it, IMO. Ultimately, Jed deserves a ton of credit for this team's success cause he enables the FO/Coaches to do stuff that a lot of other teams won't do. Jed has talked about how it's a benefit to not be a public company - can have lower years in "take home" to put it back into your team.

Ah of course... the condescending lols and assumptions, interspersed with semantics, when someone has different opinion. I'll leave you to it.

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by jakedogg:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Since the $10M gets added to his base salary, which was $22.21M, any team would need $33.06M to acquire him, most teams don't have anywhere near that much in cap room.

Thanks for the update. Always appreciated.

Any time

So wha' does it all mean? Is he stuck with us?

I wouldn't say stuck, but yeah I don't see him being traded or released, they'll work out a new deal soon IMO, hopefully before the 23rd of April which is night 1 of the draft.

But if a deal isn't struck Trent needs to show up to receive his weekly checks? I wonder if there's training camp bonuses. Also since there isn't a guarantee he can be cut at anytime, but we take a larger cap hit?

There's no TC bonuses, if he doesn't report then he ends up forfeiting some game checks but I'd bet he'd be willing to do so as that happened to him in 2024 I believe, I still think something gets done before TC begins in July, and way before week 1.

Originally posted by InfernoDaLuz:

Originally posted by tankle104:
lmao what upsets you in this whole thing is saying "unsung hero". lol it's football - no one is a true "hero", IMO. it's just a figure of speech.

although if you really want to get super technical - you can make a case that Jed is a "hero" for this franchise. just depends on which definition you use.
- someone that actively chooses to do good, and succeeds in doing so.
- a person who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.
- person who is admired by many people for doing something brave or good.
etc

so it gets sort of subjective. just weird that have issue with it, IMO. Ultimately, Jed deserves a ton of credit for this team's success cause he enables the FO/Coaches to do stuff that a lot of other teams won't do. Jed has talked about how it's a benefit to not be a public company - can have lower years in "take home" to put it back into your team.

Ah of course... the condescending lols and assumptions, interspersed with semantics, when someone has different opinion. I'll leave you to it.

Was that really necessary? The two of you have a difference of opinion. Getting snotty about it achieves nothing aside from leaving a bad taste in the mouth.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Doesn't it make a trade even more difficult? Idk maybe AB can explain.

I'm not AB, but I wouldn't think so. Trade would come with a reworked deal with the new team.