Brandon Aiyuk is a Quitter! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by BOI49er:
Not buying it. We're still balanced, and so was Bill. And when he wasn't, it was because he was using the short pass to compensate for a weak running attack.

Not buying that teams in the 80s didn't throw the ball 600 times a year lol?

teams run more plays then back in the day. It's faster. It's absolutely a passing league, if you don't think so then you're being naive.

also if you think it's not a passing league then why should SF pay Brock $200M+? Probably shouldn't even they don't throw the ball, right?

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Because it's 2024 not 1985 where they avg like 300 passing attempts a yr. It's a passing league now. Teams are throwing it twice as much.

In this passing league WE are still a run first team and last in the NFL for passing attempts.

Aiyuk averaged 6.6 targets per game. The Niners average a little over 60 plays per game. That means he was targeted about 10% of the time. By comparison, CMC was involved directly in 22 plays per game. That's over 1/3 of all plays. If anyone should be holding out for more money it's him.

Originally posted by Silky:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
More and more I'm getting relaxed knowing John and Kyle know exactly what they're doing and won't settle for the disrespectful bs package Pittsburgh is offering. Really don't know why I doubted these guys, the nerve Pittsburgh won't even throw a key piece on their team when they want our best wr is diabolical

Yes me too. The last two days have been the height of these trade talks and he's still not dealt yet. I'm certain the Steelers thing would be done and announced by now if it were happening. Hopefully we gave them blue balls and pulled the trade offer.

Agreed with everything, definitely would've been done if Pittsburgh had their way but John and Kyle are not just gonna give up BA for the hell of it. I see Pittsburgh as a desperate team and I'm willing to bet they'll boost that offer

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
Not buying it. We're still balanced, and so was Bill. And when he wasn't, it was because he was using the short pass to compensate for a weak running attack.

Not buying that teams in the 80s didn't throw the ball 600 times a year lol?

teams run more plays then back in the day. It's faster. It's absolutely a passing league, if you don't think so then you're being naive.

also if you think it's not a passing league then why should SF pay Brock $200M+? Probably shouldn't even they don't throw the ball, right?

It's become a passing league because of rule changes that make it easier. Still the teams that win are the ones that play good defense down the stretch. KC has shown that you can win without great receivers. All they have is a great TE. They value WR so much that they traded Tyreek Hill.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Because it's 2024 not 1985 where they avg like 300 passing attempts a yr. It's a passing league now. Teams are throwing it twice as much.

In this passing league WE are still a run first team and last in the NFL for passing attempts.

Then why are WE gonna make Brock the highest paid player in the NFL? Why does everyone make excuses all the time for our QBs or others about them having no one to throw the ball too?

why do we all b***h about SF drafting RBs high knowing we get more than fine production from late rd guys?

ya'll can't have it both ways. According to your logic WE should have never paid guys like Deebo/kittle and Trent massive deals since passing doesn't matter.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Aiyuk averaged 6.6 targets per game. The Niners average a little over 60 plays per game. That means he was targeted about 10% of the time. By comparison, CMC was involved directly in 22 plays per game. That's over 1/3 of all plays. If anyone should be holding out for more money it's him.

So we should have never paid Kittle/Deebo and even Trent if we don't need to throw the ball and the game plan is to just give it to CMC every down.

I mean why should we make Brock the highest paid player if passing doesn't mean s**t to this team?

Ya'll are realizing BA is more than likely gone and downplaying what he did here for this team. Shameful

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
Not buying it. We're still balanced, and so was Bill. And when he wasn't, it was because he was using the short pass to compensate for a weak running attack.

Not buying that teams in the 80s didn't throw the ball 600 times a year lol?

teams run more plays then back in the day. It's faster. It's absolutely a passing league, if you don't think so then you're being naive.

also if you think it's not a passing league then why should SF pay Brock $200M+? Probably shouldn't even they don't throw the ball, right?

I'm not saying we shouldn't pass. I'm saying Walsh got 1,000 yards receiving out of his Fullback. How many yards does CMC get from the pass. I will suggest a lower percent of passes today go to wide receivers, and that is expecially true of us. And we shouldn't be striving for league averages in numbers when a lot of teams are a lot closer to college ball with spread offenses and running quarterbacks. And for God's sake, you telling me we shouldn't pay Brock?

"We don't passing the most in the league so BA isn't worth it"

so why the f**k are they gonna pay Brock? Might as well trade him and go draft another dude that can run some play-action, throw some quick timing routes and hand the ball off to CMC all day. Clearly that's what this offense does according to some of you.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
"We don't passing the most in the league so BA isn't worth it"

so why the f**k are they gonna pay Brock? Might as well trade him and go draft another dude that can run some play-action, throw some quick timing routes and hand the ball off to CMC all day. Clearly that's what this offense does according to some of you.

Who said we were gonna do that. The same people who have been saying we have a trade agreed upon to the Steelers?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
"We don't passing the most in the league so BA isn't worth it"

so why the f**k are they gonna pay Brock? Might as well trade him and go draft another dude that can run some play-action, throw some quick timing routes and hand the ball off to CMC all day. Clearly that's what this offense does according to some of you.

lol no one is saying that

Why are you acting as if this is life or death. You can't pay everyone the highest at their position, especially at the same position.

Originally posted by BOI49er:
I'm not saying we shouldn't pass. I'm saying Walsh got 1,000 yards receiving out of his Fullback. How many yards does CMC get from the pass. I will suggest a lower percent of passes today go to wide receivers, and that is expecially true of us. And we shouldn't be striving for league averages in numbers when a lot of teams are a lot closer to college ball with spread offenses and running quarterbacks. And for God's sake, you telling me we shouldn't pay Brock?

Bill. Walsh. Is. Not. Here.

This is not football from the 80s.

Lbers run 4.4 now and aren't strictly run defenders. Folks run nickel/dime defenses more than base. It's not the same, so stop bringing up football from 40 years ago.

This is a passing league plain and simple. The rules have made it that way. CBs shouldn't matter to you either because they have to defend this dime a dozen WRs that don't matter.

According to you and how meaningless WRs/passing is, why should we pay Brock? So he can check it down to CMC and a FB?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
"We don't passing the most in the league so BA isn't worth it"

so why the f**k are they gonna pay Brock? Might as well trade him and go draft another dude that can run some play-action, throw some quick timing routes and hand the ball off to CMC all day. Clearly that's what this offense does according to some of you.

Well you're feisty today with a lot of Straw Man arguments. It helps to to address what people actually say instead of your interpretations of that.

Sign the f**kin contract already Aiyuk, if not GTFO of SF!!! He should know that the 49ers are loading up to pay Purdy or would Aiyuk rather just play with any QB? Nope or else he would've taken the NE deal, this f**ker only cares about money. So over this situation already, now people in here are arguing about stupid s**t.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
lol no one is saying that

Why are you acting as if this is life or death. You can't pay everyone the highest at their position, especially at the same position.

Luckily we don't have to. BA is on the books for 14 million and he has to play if he wants generational wealth.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
I'm not saying we shouldn't pass. I'm saying Walsh got 1,000 yards receiving out of his Fullback. How many yards does CMC get from the pass. I will suggest a lower percent of passes today go to wide receivers, and that is expecially true of us. And we shouldn't be striving for league averages in numbers when a lot of teams are a lot closer to college ball with spread offenses and running quarterbacks. And for God's sake, you telling me we shouldn't pay Brock?

Bill. Walsh. Is. Not. Here.

This is not football from the 80s.

Lbers run 4.4 now and aren't strictly run defenders. Folks run nickel/dime defenses more than base. It's not the same, so stop bringing up football from 40 years ago.

This is a passing league plain and simple. The rules have made it that way. CBs shouldn't matter to you either because they have to defend this dime a dozen WRs that don't matter.

According to you and how meaningless WRs/passing is, why should we pay Brock? So he can check it down to CMC and a FB?

Balance, my firend. You have to be able to do it all, because defenses can stop Anything, but they can't stop Everything.