Brandon Aiyuk is a Quitter! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Typecast:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by genus49:
I would absolutely lose it if after we release his ass(hopefully right before week 1 if he ever even shows up) Washington never signs him and/or NFL hits them with tampering.

This should be tampering IMO, we got hit for way less with Lance Briggs but the NFL won't do anything about it

This isn't tampering at all. And as far the Briggs situation goes, the team was talking with Briggs' agent Drew Rosenhaus during the season without the Bears permission. That's a direct violation of the tampering policy. The documented communications were shared at the hearing.

Public/Private Statements. Any public or private statement of interest, qualified or unqualified, in another club's player to that player's agent or representative, or to a member of the news media, is a violation of this AntiTampering Policy. (Example of a prohibited comment: "He's an excellent player, and we'd very much like to have him if he were available, but another club holds his rights.") All clubs should be aware that improper disclosure of confidential trade discussions with another club may be a violation of this section on prohibited public statements.

It would be a clear problem if not for the fact that 49ers had several players that Drew managed. That was a joke tampering charge and I can guarantee if the NFL cared enough to dig into it with Washington they would find stuff.

I'm sure Washington is being careful to use Jayden as the middle man for all conversations but I'm confident the NFL COULD find something if they looked hard enough but they don't hate Washington like us.

The 49ers weren't penalized for talking to Rosenhaus about their own players or free agents. They were penalized for making a statement of interest about Briggs, while Briggs was still under contract to the Bears, and made that statement of interest without the Bears permission for Briggs to talk to other teams. Following the PR spin from the 49ers front office that they didn't do anything malicious and they were within NFL guidelines, they would in-turn leak that the only evidence against them was two missed phone calls where the team left no message and had no conversation. The 49ers stance that the only "contact" was two phone calls is what they told the league during the investigation.

Well, the 49ers lied. The evidence against the 49ers included emails... their own emails. Tim Kawakami reported the existence of emails the day after the league announced the guilty verdict and punishment. The league investigation into the 49ers began a rift between Lal Heneghan (EVP of Football Administration) and Paraag Marathe (Director of Football Ops) that would lead to Heneghan's eventual ouster in 2011. Team executives had been emailing each other bragging about tampering with Briggs and doing it without Heneghan knowing. Matt Maiocco would let the existence of the emails slip a year later when he complained about the Jets allegedly tampering with Crabtree during his holdout. The league office was not happy with the 49ers trying to PR spin to claim innocence which conversely attempted to make Goodell look stupid.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
I believe I touched on it earlier this year or maybe last year....

An example. I feel everyone pressured Aiyuk and the Front Office to be together... like how some force an engaged couple to still marry, when they are on the verge of a divorce.

What usually people do is pressure a couple to stay together, then when it happens they feel they have done their job and move on thinking everything is all good... when in fact the relationship is not totally healed, and there are cracks...and if not followed up on and trust shown is not consistent, then the breakup will still happen or a continued toxic relationship until a break up or something worse.

So with our situation, a lot of stuff happened... but they resolved it to get a contract done. From that point, someone should have made sure trust was consistent between the two.... imo the 9ers FO budged first with the unnecessary media leaks (Paraag) while Aiyuk was trying to recover from his injury/in a dark place.... and trust was once again broken... what happened after, we have to see what Aiyuk eventually says... what happened regarding the rehab work? Or heck even the story of the money being taken was kept secret by Aiyuk and the Coaches/FO.... and Aiyuk was working out at the facilities (Kittle mentioned this)... he said he would check on Aiyuk every chance he got.... then after that media leak about the contract money being held being leaked to the media (for God knows what reason, was it right before we our seaon started to turn around?)... then Aiyuk once again lost trust, and just stopped showing up to the facilities (I believe that is what Kittle said about when Aiyuk stopped being there)...

That's why I say FROM THE TEAM'S END, there were unnecessary decisions (imo by Paraag) being made that negatively effected the relationship. So much so, that Aiyuk wanted off no matter what. Even if he lost money. They were so unnecessary, that you wonder if they were done on purpose to trigger this outcome.

Again, this outcome benefits both Aiyuk and Paraag... Aiyuk got good money and gets to go to a new team of his choice. Paraag gets out of the contract he never wanted to do. Now does it benefit the offense/team?... we'll see. I like that Mike Evans fell onto our lap....and I like our rookie WR... but no Aiyuk and Jauan seems weird, hopefully our new look offense jells..Purdy to Pearsal should be fine, until it does worse case scenario. I'm not expecting much from Kirk.

Aiyuk was getting paid a lot of money to get over minor transgressions which most people wouldn't think twice about.

I realize everyone is different and when you're rehabbing from a bad knee injury and you don't know where your career will be can cause problems upstairs for sure but the reaction is still insane(no pun intended)

Maybe Aiyuk thinks the money he basically stole from the 49ers for that one shortened and mid season is enough to lose out on the rest of the guarantees. Maybe he thinks the front office transgressions show him he doesn't have a place here...fine, it's his personal belief so how can I argue against it.

However this is the same dude who got upset about those contract negotiations and the team not wanting him bad enough. He has now completely nuked his negotiating power not only with Washington but any other team with what he's pulling right now.

Being proud of basically stealing $50 mil from the 49ers and calling them stupid for paying you - not a great way to sell yourself to future potential stupid teams.

I guess all we can do now is wait and see how his story unfolds. Maybe the scenario he put himself in brings out the best in him. Maybe playing with Jayden will be the boost he needs and maybe he'll be able to get another big contract from Washington...but do we think Washington will simply open up the pocket book for him? Or will they remind him how much he wanted to be there and in order for him to stay he has to take much less than he's worth. Will they be able to get their lambo for the price of a Prius?

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Come on FMT...

You should also look up Kittle's previous interview when talking about Aiyuk... He cares about Brandon.

As far as that respones, yes that's George... he will rib you, like he has many of his past teammates.

Oh I agree, George is as good a teammate as you'll find. And I know he likes to joke around but it sure seems like there is some animosity there. Not sure teammates are on board with being ghosted.

Maybe I'm wrong and Aiyuk has been keeping in touch with the boys. Just saying from everything we've heard/seen, he ghosted the org and also ghosted his teammates.

One day it'll all probably come out and we can make informed opinions on it though

Jimmy G used to ghost poor positive Kittle... George would wear Jimmy G's mug on his shirt, and Jimmy G still would ghost him and the coaches... but that didn't change George's support of Jimmy.. And I don't think that would change George's support of Aiyuk (if Brandon chose to stick around).

NOW once Brandon leaves the team, I don't expect the same level of support or discussion... George would steer any questions to be about his current teammates and WRs. That is where his support will be, as it should be. I don't feel George will bash Brandon once he leaves, but if he gets caught with a question that's putting the team/FO in a bad light... he'll be the leader he is and defend the FO.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
I believe I touched on it earlier this year or maybe last year....

An example. I feel everyone pressured Aiyuk and the Front Office to be together... like how some force an engaged couple to still marry, when they are on the verge of a divorce.

What usually people do is pressure a couple to stay together, then when it happens they feel they have done their job and move on thinking everything is all good... when in fact the relationship is not totally healed, and there are cracks...and if not followed up on and trust shown is not consistent, then the breakup will still happen or a continued toxic relationship until a break up or something worse.

So with our situation, a lot of stuff happened... but they resolved it to get a contract done. From that point, someone should have made sure trust was consistent between the two.... imo the 9ers FO budged first with the unnecessary media leaks (Paraag) while Aiyuk was trying to recover from his injury/in a dark place.... and trust was once again broken... what happened after, we have to see what Aiyuk eventually says... what happened regarding the rehab work? Or heck even the story of the money being taken was kept secret by Aiyuk and the Coaches/FO.... and Aiyuk was working out at the facilities (Kittle mentioned this)... he said he would check on Aiyuk every chance he got.... then after that media leak about the contract money being held being leaked to the media (for God knows what reason, was it right before we our seaon started to turn around?)... then Aiyuk once again lost trust, and just stopped showing up to the facilities (I believe that is what Kittle said about when Aiyuk stopped being there)...

That's why I say FROM THE TEAM'S END, there were unnecessary decisions (imo by Paraag) being made that negatively effected the relationship. So much so, that Aiyuk wanted off no matter what. Even if he lost money. They were so unnecessary, that you wonder if they were done on purpose to trigger this outcome.

Again, this outcome benefits both Aiyuk and Paraag... Aiyuk got good money and gets to go to a new team of his choice. Paraag gets out of the contract he never wanted to do. Now does it benefit the offense/team?... we'll see. I like that Mike Evans fell onto our lap....and I like our rookie WR... but no Aiyuk and Jauan seems weird, hopefully our new look offense jells..Purdy to Pearsal should be fine, until the other WRs get some chemistry, worse case scenario. I'm not expecting much from Kirk.

It seems like you are trying real hard to put some blame on the front office. Why? You are like Aiyuk on social media, batting .000 winning people over.

99% of BA's problems is his fault. Nobody cares that the front office hurt his feelings.

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
I believe I touched on it earlier this year or maybe last year....

An example. I feel everyone pressured Aiyuk and the Front Office to be together... like how some force an engaged couple to still marry, when they are on the verge of a divorce.

What usually people do is pressure a couple to stay together, then when it happens they feel they have done their job and move on thinking everything is all good... when in fact the relationship is not totally healed, and there are cracks...and if not followed up on and trust shown is not consistent, then the breakup will still happen or a continued toxic relationship until a break up or something worse.

So with our situation, a lot of stuff happened... but they resolved it to get a contract done. From that point, someone should have made sure trust was consistent between the two.... imo the 9ers FO budged first with the unnecessary media leaks (Paraag) while Aiyuk was trying to recover from his injury/in a dark place.... and trust was once again broken... what happened after, we have to see what Aiyuk eventually says... what happened regarding the rehab work? Or heck even the story of the money being taken was kept secret by Aiyuk and the Coaches/FO.... and Aiyuk was working out at the facilities (Kittle mentioned this)... he said he would check on Aiyuk every chance he got.... then after that media leak about the contract money being held being leaked to the media (for God knows what reason, was it right before we our seaon started to turn around?)... then Aiyuk once again lost trust, and just stopped showing up to the facilities (I believe that is what Kittle said about when Aiyuk stopped being there)...

That's why I say FROM THE TEAM'S END, there were unnecessary decisions (imo by Paraag) being made that negatively effected the relationship. So much so, that Aiyuk wanted off no matter what. Even if he lost money. They were so unnecessary, that you wonder if they were done on purpose to trigger this outcome.

Again, this outcome benefits both Aiyuk and Paraag... Aiyuk got good money and gets to go to a new team of his choice. Paraag gets out of the contract he never wanted to do. Now does it benefit the offense/team?... we'll see. I like that Mike Evans fell onto our lap....and I like our rookie WR... but no Aiyuk and Jauan seems weird, hopefully our new look offense jells..Purdy to Pearsal should be fine, until the other WRs get some chemistry, worse case scenario. I'm not expecting much from Kirk.

It seems like you are trying real hard to put some blame on the front office. Why? You are like Aiyuk on social media, batting .000 winning people over.

99% of BA's problems is his fault. Nobody cares that the front office hurt his feelings.

You can believe that if you want... I'm just not a blind homer. I've been a 9er fan for a loooooong time..a Sports fan a loooooong time. I know how front office/coaches can be.

And yes I agree, what ever Aiyuk CHOSE to do...that affected this whole situation...is indeed his fault.

But I'll revisit this later...

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Come on FMT...

You should also look up Kittle's previous interview when talking about Aiyuk... He cares about Brandon.

As far as that respones, yes that's George... he will rib you, like he has many of his past teammates.

Oh I agree, George is as good a teammate as you'll find. And I know he likes to joke around but it sure seems like there is some animosity there. Not sure teammates are on board with being ghosted.

Maybe I'm wrong and Aiyuk has been keeping in touch with the boys. Just saying from everything we've heard/seen, he ghosted the org and also ghosted his teammates.

One day it'll all probably come out and we can make informed opinions on it though

Jimmy G used to ghost poor positive Kittle... George would wear Jimmy G's mug on his shirt, and Jimmy G still would ghost him and the coaches... but that didn't change George's support of Jimmy.. And I don't think that would change George's support of Aiyuk (if Brandon chose to stick around).

NOW once Brandon leaves the team, I don't expect the same level of support or discussion... George would steer any questions to be about his current teammates and WRs. That is where his support will be, as it should be. I don't feel George will bash Brandon once he leaves, but if he gets caught with a question that's putting the team/FO in a bad light... he'll be the leader he is and defend the FO.

Not during the season...

Come on man surely you understand the difference.

Originally posted by miked1978:
It seems like you are trying real hard to put some blame on the front office. Why? You are like Aiyuk on social media, batting .000 winning people over.

99% of BA's problems is his fault. Nobody cares that the front office hurt his feelings.

Someone please give me $50 million dollars and hurt my feelings.

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
I believe I touched on it earlier this year or maybe last year....

An example. I feel everyone pressured Aiyuk and the Front Office to be together... like how some force an engaged couple to still marry, when they are on the verge of a divorce.

What usually people do is pressure a couple to stay together, then when it happens they feel they have done their job and move on thinking everything is all good... when in fact the relationship is not totally healed, and there are cracks...and if not followed up on and trust shown is not consistent, then the breakup will still happen or a continued toxic relationship until a break up or something worse.

So with our situation, a lot of stuff happened... but they resolved it to get a contract done. From that point, someone should have made sure trust was consistent between the two.... imo the 9ers FO budged first with the unnecessary media leaks (Paraag) while Aiyuk was trying to recover from his injury/in a dark place.... and trust was once again broken... what happened after, we have to see what Aiyuk eventually says... what happened regarding the rehab work? Or heck even the story of the money being taken was kept secret by Aiyuk and the Coaches/FO.... and Aiyuk was working out at the facilities (Kittle mentioned this)... he said he would check on Aiyuk every chance he got.... then after that media leak about the contract money being held being leaked to the media (for God knows what reason, was it right before we our seaon started to turn around?)... then Aiyuk once again lost trust, and just stopped showing up to the facilities (I believe that is what Kittle said about when Aiyuk stopped being there)...

That's why I say FROM THE TEAM'S END, there were unnecessary decisions (imo by Paraag) being made that negatively effected the relationship. So much so, that Aiyuk wanted off no matter what. Even if he lost money. They were so unnecessary, that you wonder if they were done on purpose to trigger this outcome.

Again, this outcome benefits both Aiyuk and Paraag... Aiyuk got good money and gets to go to a new team of his choice. Paraag gets out of the contract he never wanted to do. Now does it benefit the offense/team?... we'll see. I like that Mike Evans fell onto our lap....and I like our rookie WR... but no Aiyuk and Jauan seems weird, hopefully our new look offense jells..Purdy to Pearsal should be fine, until the other WRs get some chemistry, worse case scenario. I'm not expecting much from Kirk.

It seems like you are trying real hard to put some blame on the front office. Why? You are like Aiyuk on social media, batting .000 winning people over.

99% of BA's problems is his fault. Nobody cares that the front office hurt his feelings.

You can believe that if you want... I'm just not a blind homer. I've been a 9er fan for a loooooong time..a Sports fan a loooooong time. I know how front office/coaches can be.

And yes I agree, what ever Aiyuk CHOSE to do...that affected this whole situation...is indeed his fault.

But I'll revisit this later...

Not sure how you can call anyone blind with how blindly you are defending BA

you always choose the side whose is the wrong every time lol

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Come on FMT...

You should also look up Kittle's previous interview when talking about Aiyuk... He cares about Brandon.

As far as that respones, yes that's George... he will rib you, like he has many of his past teammates.

Oh I agree, George is as good a teammate as you'll find. And I know he likes to joke around but it sure seems like there is some animosity there. Not sure teammates are on board with being ghosted.

Maybe I'm wrong and Aiyuk has been keeping in touch with the boys. Just saying from everything we've heard/seen, he ghosted the org and also ghosted his teammates.

One day it'll all probably come out and we can make informed opinions on it though

Jimmy G used to ghost poor positive Kittle... George would wear Jimmy G's mug on his shirt, and Jimmy G still would ghost him and the coaches... but that didn't change George's support of Jimmy.. And I don't think that would change George's support of Aiyuk (if Brandon chose to stick around).

NOW once Brandon leaves the team, I don't expect the same level of support or discussion... George would steer any questions to be about his current teammates and WRs. That is where his support will be, as it should be. I don't feel George will bash Brandon once he leaves, but if he gets caught with a question that's putting the team/FO in a bad light... he'll be the leader he is and defend the FO.

Not during the season...

Come on man surely you understand the difference.

From what George has told us.. Aiyuk was fine and there rehabbing, until that leak about the discipline/money held from his contract... then he cut off communication. He made his decision to leave for good. Sometimes you have to not communicate with co-workers, when you're dealing with a serious issue with management. You don't want to give anything. I'm pretty sure it was not anything personal with George...but that's not the first time I've seen someone cut off communication with friends and co-workers when dealing with something serious.

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Come on FMT...

You should also look up Kittle's previous interview when talking about Aiyuk... He cares about Brandon.

As far as that respones, yes that's George... he will rib you, like he has many of his past teammates.

Oh I agree, George is as good a teammate as you'll find. And I know he likes to joke around but it sure seems like there is some animosity there. Not sure teammates are on board with being ghosted.

Maybe I'm wrong and Aiyuk has been keeping in touch with the boys. Just saying from everything we've heard/seen, he ghosted the org and also ghosted his teammates.

One day it'll all probably come out and we can make informed opinions on it though

Jimmy G used to ghost poor positive Kittle... George would wear Jimmy G's mug on his shirt, and Jimmy G still would ghost him and the coaches... but that didn't change George's support of Jimmy.. And I don't think that would change George's support of Aiyuk (if Brandon chose to stick around).

NOW once Brandon leaves the team, I don't expect the same level of support or discussion... George would steer any questions to be about his current teammates and WRs. That is where his support will be, as it should be. I don't feel George will bash Brandon once he leaves, but if he gets caught with a question that's putting the team/FO in a bad light... he'll be the leader he is and defend the FO.

Not during the season...

Come on man surely you understand the difference.

From what George has told us.. Aiyuk was fine and there, until that leak about his contract... then he cut off communication. He made his decision to leave for good. Sometimes you have not communicate with co-workers, when you're dealing with an issue with management. You don't want to give anything. I'm pretty sure it was not anything personal with George...but that's not the first time I've seen someone cut off communication with friends and co-co-workers when dealing with something serious.

lol, come off it, kyle said what ba did is something he's never seen in 22 years
a time period which included all of jimmy and you're dragging him into this

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Come on FMT...

You should also look up Kittle's previous interview when talking about Aiyuk... He cares about Brandon.

As far as that respones, yes that's George... he will rib you, like he has many of his past teammates.

Oh I agree, George is as good a teammate as you'll find. And I know he likes to joke around but it sure seems like there is some animosity there. Not sure teammates are on board with being ghosted.

Maybe I'm wrong and Aiyuk has been keeping in touch with the boys. Just saying from everything we've heard/seen, he ghosted the org and also ghosted his teammates.

One day it'll all probably come out and we can make informed opinions on it though

Jimmy G used to ghost poor positive Kittle... George would wear Jimmy G's mug on his shirt, and Jimmy G still would ghost him and the coaches... but that didn't change George's support of Jimmy.. And I don't think that would change George's support of Aiyuk (if Brandon chose to stick around).

NOW once Brandon leaves the team, I don't expect the same level of support or discussion... George would steer any questions to be about his current teammates and WRs. That is where his support will be, as it should be. I don't feel George will bash Brandon once he leaves, but if he gets caught with a question that's putting the team/FO in a bad light... he'll be the leader he is and defend the FO.

Not during the season...

Come on man surely you understand the difference.

From what George has told us.. Aiyuk was fine and there, until that leak about his contract... then he cut off communication. He made his decision to leave for good. Sometimes you have not communicate with co-workers, when you're dealing with an issue with management. You don't want to give anything. I'm pretty sure it was not anything personal with George...but that's not the first time I've seen someone cut off communication with friends and co-co-workers when dealing with something serious.

lol, come off it, kyle said what ba did is something he's never seen in 22 years
a time period which included all of jimmy and you're dragging him into this

Kyle also said Aiyuk would be activated "later in the season" after Aiyuk had left the team

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

If we don't release him before camp(and I hope we don't) I will be fascinated to see if Aiyuk actually shows up to 49ers camp or if he continues posting about the Commanders as everyone else goes back to work.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by miked1978:
It seems like you are trying real hard to put some blame on the front office. Why? You are like Aiyuk on social media, batting .000 winning people over.

99% of BA's problems is his fault. Nobody cares that the front office hurt his feelings.

Someone please give me $50 million dollars and hurt my feelings.

🤣 Serious. I've never seen so much energy spent on a dude who did so little. One legit season. One. Peace.

Originally posted by genus49:
If we don't release him before camp(and I hope we don't) I will be fascinated to see if Aiyuk actually shows up to 49ers camp or if he continues posting about the Commanders as everyone else goes back to work.

It kinda defeats the post he made about flying past Niners HQ. He'd have to now humble himself pulling up on 49ers HQ and then facing the music