2020 Team Information (Needs)

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by stefano89:

We need that already. s**t we needed that last year that's not a future need. And we only covered our guard need if this 6th rd OT can start at guard.

I said it in a few other threads an il say it here cause the draft is making it more an more obvious, we WILL have to trade for a CB or OG mid season if we plan to make a SB run this year. Just like we did with sanders. An probly lose some more future mid rounders for it.

Tired of ignoring the teams needs for guys that "o well this player fits our type of play perfectly"

bingo

Wow good thing nobody in these forums actually runs an NFL team.

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by stefano89:

We need that already. s**t we needed that last year that's not a future need. And we only covered our guard need if this 6th rd OT can start at guard.

I said it in a few other threads an il say it here cause the draft is making it more an more obvious, we WILL have to trade for a CB or OG mid season if we plan to make a SB run this year. Just like we did with sanders. An probly lose some more future mid rounders for it.

Tired of ignoring the teams needs for guys that "o well this player fits our type of play perfectly"

bingo

Wow good thing nobody in these forums actually runs an NFL team.

He's right though. Drafting a 5th round convert T to G isn't exactly addressing the glaring pass protection issues. Sherman got roasted in the Superbowl and looked embarrassingly slow and Moseley, like Brunskill flashed, but are still relatively unknowns at very important positions and they never found a speed edge rusher for a Ford security.

There's a very real chance all these repetitive issues cost us again. I hope not but every team has their weaknesses and holes...OK to be honest about that.

My way too early crack at the 55. The pool of players/90 man roster is in the original post at the very bottom if you want to give it a crack yourself.

Offensive Personnel: --- 26
QB: Jimmy Garoppolo; Nick Mullens
RB: Raheem Mostert; Jerick McKinnon, Tevin Coleman & Jeff Wilson Jr.
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
TE: George Kittle; Ross Dwelley & Charlie Woerner
F/Z: Jalen Hurd; Jauan Jennings
XWR: Brandon Aiyuk; Travis Benjamin
SWR: Kendrick Bourne; Trent Taylor
ZWR: Deebo Samuel
LT: Trent Williams; Shon Coleman
LG: Laken Tomlinson; Ross Reynolds
C: Weston Richburg; Ben Garland
RG: Daniel Brunskill; Colton McKivitz
RT: Mike McGlinchey

Defensive Personnel: --- 26
LDE/W9: Arik Armstead; Dee Ford
2i: D.J. Jones; Kevin Givens
3T: Javon Kinlaw; Solomon Thomas & Jullian Taylor
RDE/W9: Nick Bosa; Ronald Blair & Kerry Hyder
SAM: Kwon Alexander; Jonas Griffith
MIKE: Fred Warner; Joey Alfieri
WILL: Dre Greenlaw; Joe Walker
RCB: Emmanuel Moseley; Jason Verrett
SCB: K'Waun Williams; D.J. Reed
LCB: Richard Sherman; Ahkello Witherspoon
FS: Jimmie Ward; Tarvarius Moore
SS: Jaquiski Tartt; Marcell Harris

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Kyle Nelson
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Mitch Wishnowsky

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KOR: Brandon Aiyuk & Travis Benjamin
PR: Brandon Aiyuk; Travis Benjamin & Trent Taylor
GR: Raheem Mostert & Tarvarious Moore

Practice Squad: - 12
QB Broc Rutter - R
RB Salvon Ahmed - R
RB JaMychal Hasty - R
RB Josh Hokit - R
TE Chase Harrell- R
SWR Chris Finke - R
FB Daniel Helm
RT Leonard Wester
2i Darrion Daniels - R
FS Jacob Thieneman
FS DeMarkus Acy - R
SS Ronnell Perkins - R

Key Cuts:
QB C.J. BeatHard
XWR Dante Pettis
LT Justin Skule
RG Tom Compton
DL Kentavius Street
LB Azeez Al-Shaair
LB Mark Nzeocha
CB Dontae Johnson

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by stefano89:

We need that already. s**t we needed that last year that's not a future need. And we only covered our guard need if this 6th rd OT can start at guard.

I said it in a few other threads an il say it here cause the draft is making it more an more obvious, we WILL have to trade for a CB or OG mid season if we plan to make a SB run this year. Just like we did with sanders. An probly lose some more future mid rounders for it.

Tired of ignoring the teams needs for guys that "o well this player fits our type of play perfectly"

bingo

Wow good thing nobody in these forums actually runs an NFL team.

He's right though. Drafting a 5th round convert T to G isn't exactly addressing the glaring pass protection issues. Sherman got roasted in the Superbowl and looked embarrassingly slow and Moseley, like Brunskill flashed, but are still relatively unknowns at very important positions and they never found a speed edge rusher for a Ford security.

There's a very real chance all these repetitive issues cost us again. I hope not but every team has their weaknesses and holes...OK to be honest about that.

Exactly. You can't just go into every season an every draft an pick players just because "o well they fit our scheme perfectly, or he's a perfect shanahan offensive type player". Wtf kinda mentality is that. So what if every round there's a WR that fits our scheme perfectly. Are we gonna pick 7 WRs in 7 rounds??? Insanity.

Teams that want to contend HAVE to fill their needs, you can't just neglect them like we have with IOL an CB the last 2 years. Sry, Witherspoon and Moseley are not solid 2CBs. They look great due to an incredible pass rush. If you neglect that position long enough smart coaches will take advantage(KC, Saints, Falcons)

Kyle has had a hard on for run blocking so long he's completely ignored one of the most important parts of offense in 2020. Pass protection. He only wants run blocking OLmen an that's what we got. But no matter how good you are rushing Youl have to pass at some point. And while yes our passing game was not bad at all, our pass blocking was. And that's the result of neglecting pass pro. Sry but brunskill an skule looked just good enough to get us through the season. All 31 other teams watched the last quarter of that SB an saw what spagnuolo had his defense do to our IOL. Gave them the key to stop our O, rush up that weak IOL. If we start next season with no upgrade at at least one IOL position do not expect to go far.

And ya we drafted a T in the 6th to hopefully play guard. But sortt TY, I doubt he's the OL version of kittle. If we're lucky his ceiling is probably being able to back up the starter without too much drop off. Hopefully I'm wrong there.

Originally posted by stefano89:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by stefano89:

We need that already. s**t we needed that last year that's not a future need. And we only covered our guard need if this 6th rd OT can start at guard.

I said it in a few other threads an il say it here cause the draft is making it more an more obvious, we WILL have to trade for a CB or OG mid season if we plan to make a SB run this year. Just like we did with sanders. An probly lose some more future mid rounders for it.

Tired of ignoring the teams needs for guys that "o well this player fits our type of play perfectly"

bingo

Wow good thing nobody in these forums actually runs an NFL team.

He's right though. Drafting a 5th round convert T to G isn't exactly addressing the glaring pass protection issues. Sherman got roasted in the Superbowl and looked embarrassingly slow and Moseley, like Brunskill flashed, but are still relatively unknowns at very important positions and they never found a speed edge rusher for a Ford security.

There's a very real chance all these repetitive issues cost us again. I hope not but every team has their weaknesses and holes...OK to be honest about that.

Exactly. You can't just go into every season an every draft an pick players just because "o well they fit our scheme perfectly, or he's a perfect shanahan offensive type player". Wtf kinda mentality is that. So what if every round there's a WR that fits our scheme perfectly. Are we gonna pick 7 WRs in 7 rounds??? Insanity.

Teams that want to contend HAVE to fill their needs, you can't just neglect them like we have with IOL an CB the last 2 years. Sry, Witherspoon and Moseley are not solid 2CBs. They look great due to an incredible pass rush. If you neglect that position long enough smart coaches will take advantage(KC, Saints, Falcons)

Kyle has had a hard on for run blocking so long he's completely ignored one of the most important parts of offense in 2020. Pass protection. He only wants run blocking OLmen an that's what we got. But no matter how good you are rushing Youl have to pass at some point. And while yes our passing game was not bad at all, our pass blocking was. And that's the result of neglecting pass pro. Sry but brunskill an skule looked just good enough to get us through the season. All 31 other teams watched the last quarter of that SB an saw what spagnuolo had his defense do to our IOL. Gave them the key to stop our O, rush up that weak IOL. If we start next season with no upgrade at at least one IOL position do not expect to go far.

And I totally agree about CB too. Sherman looked so slow AARP made a commercial about him after the Superbowl. This is a passing league. Pass protection, pass rush and pass defense. You can never have too many of these players. Just the Cardinals off season alone should have piqued their desire to add more talent to the coverage unit alone.

Originally posted by Niners418:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Needs 2021: #1 CB

That's not a problem. Once Okudah and Henderson were taken....there wasn't anyone available who's 100% an upgrade over what we've got. I'm not ready to move on from Witherspoon...he was playing great pre injury last year. Mosley solidified himself as a solid #2 CB.
Only made sense drafting someone who was a clear upgrade. Tim Harris I'm very intrigued by for a developmental player from last year.

Next year we'll definitely be addressing CB

I can't wait to see him too. Maybe Tabor plays up to his potential? (2nd rounder)

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by Niners418:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Needs 2021: #1 CB

That's not a problem. Once Okudah and Henderson were taken....there wasn't anyone available who's 100% an upgrade over what we've got. I'm not ready to move on from Witherspoon...he was playing great pre injury last year. Mosley solidified himself as a solid #2 CB.
Only made sense drafting someone who was a clear upgrade. Tim Harris I'm very intrigued by for a developmental player from last year.

Next year we'll definitely be addressing CB

I can't wait to see him too. Maybe Tabor plays up to his potential? (2nd rounder)

I'm going to go even further out on a limb...keep your eye on Jason Verrett. You heard it here first.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by stefano89:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by stefano89:

We need that already. s**t we needed that last year that's not a future need. And we only covered our guard need if this 6th rd OT can start at guard.

I said it in a few other threads an il say it here cause the draft is making it more an more obvious, we WILL have to trade for a CB or OG mid season if we plan to make a SB run this year. Just like we did with sanders. An probly lose some more future mid rounders for it. The Vikings had a solid draft an have improved.

Tired of ignoring the teams needs for guys that "o well this player fits our type of play perfectly"

bingo

Wow good thing nobody in these forums actually runs an NFL team.

He's right though. Drafting a 5th round convert T to G isn't exactly addressing the glaring pass protection issues. Sherman got roasted in the Superbowl and looked embarrassingly slow and Moseley, like Brunskill flashed, but are still relatively unknowns at very important positions and they never found a speed edge rusher for a Ford security.

There's a very real chance all these repetitive issues cost us again. I hope not but every team has their weaknesses and holes...OK to be honest about that.

Exactly. You can't just go into every season an every draft an pick players just because "o well they fit our scheme perfectly, or he's a perfect shanahan offensive type player". Wtf kinda mentality is that. So what if every round there's a WR that fits our scheme perfectly. Are we gonna pick 7 WRs in 7 rounds??? Insanity.

Teams that want to contend HAVE to fill their needs, you can't just neglect them like we have with IOL an CB the last 2 years. Sry, Witherspoon and Moseley are not solid 2CBs. They look great due to an incredible pass rush. If you neglect that position long enough smart coaches will take advantage(KC, Saints, Falcons)

Kyle has had a hard on for run blocking so long he's completely ignored one of the most important parts of offense in 2020. Pass protection. He only wants run blocking OLmen an that's what we got. But no matter how good you are rushing Youl have to pass at some point. And while yes our passing game was not bad at all, our pass blocking was. And that's the result of neglecting pass pro. Sry but brunskill an skule looked just good enough to get us through the season. All 31 other teams watched the last quarter of that SB an saw what spagnuolo had his defense do to our IOL. Gave them the key to stop our O, rush up that weak IOL. If we start next season with no upgrade at at least one IOL position do not expect to go far.

And I totally agree about CB too. Sherman looked so slow AARP made a commercial about him after the Superbowl. This is a passing league. Pass protection, pass rush and pass defense. You can never have too many of these players. Just the Cardinals off season alone should have piqued their desire to add more talent to the coverage unit alone.

The Whole NFC conference and their playoffs is gonna be a bloodbath for the next 5 years at least. And we're smack dab right in the middle of the NFCW possibly the hardest division of them all. That's why I'm highly concerned about our corners and pass pro because we're not only gonna have a lot of big WRs an qbs to defend but we're gonna have to be putting up 30+ points a week to win.

TB12 an gronk are in TB now in one of the biggest offenses in the league. The panthers just went all defense with all their picks don't be surprised if their in contention. The saints picked up sanders and are going all out to try an end brees's career with a SB. Arizona is going to have a deadly offense l, they will be very hard to beat. The Seahawks will play us hard like they always do. Rams are trash. The Vikings had a solid draft an will improve. And the cowboys an eagles have more than enough firepower now to have big offenses.

The NFC playoffs are going to be brutal for years to come and we gotta have the fire power to stay on top. And I expect 3 NFCW teams in the playoffs this year.

Originally posted by stefano89:

The Whole NFC conference and their playoffs is gonna be a bloodbath for the next 5 years at least. And we're smack dab right in the middle of the NFCW possibly the hardest division of them all. That's why I'm highly concerned about our corners and pass pro because we're not only gonna have a lot of big WRs an qbs to defend but we're gonna have to be putting up 30+ points a week to win.

TB12 an gronk are in TB now in one of the biggest offenses in the league. The panthers just went all defense with all their picks don't be surprised if their in contention. The saints picked up sanders and are going all out to try an end brees's career with a SB. Arizona is going to have a deadly offense l, they will be very hard to beat. The Seahawks will play us hard like they always do. Rams are trash. The Vikings had a solid draft an will improve. And the cowboys an eagles have more than enough firepower now to have big offenses.

The NFC playoffs are going to be brutal for years to come and we gotta have the fire power to stay on top. And I expect 3 NFCW teams in the playoffs this year.

Fully agree. There will always be the surprise team to rise and fall from expectations but damn, the NFC is no joke.

Arizona scares the hell out of me because of their style...it's just a tough matchup for our defense and now they might have a Kittle shadow. We could just as easily be 1st or 3rd in the NFCW and still have 10 wins.

Originally posted by stefano89:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by stefano89:

We need that already. s**t we needed that last year that's not a future need. And we only covered our guard need if this 6th rd OT can start at guard.

I said it in a few other threads an il say it here cause the draft is making it more an more obvious, we WILL have to trade for a CB or OG mid season if we plan to make a SB run this year. Just like we did with sanders. An probly lose some more future mid rounders for it.

Tired of ignoring the teams needs for guys that "o well this player fits our type of play perfectly"

bingo

Wow good thing nobody in these forums actually runs an NFL team.

He's right though. Drafting a 5th round convert T to G isn't exactly addressing the glaring pass protection issues. Sherman got roasted in the Superbowl and looked embarrassingly slow and Moseley, like Brunskill flashed, but are still relatively unknowns at very important positions and they never found a speed edge rusher for a Ford security.

There's a very real chance all these repetitive issues cost us again. I hope not but every team has their weaknesses and holes...OK to be honest about that.

Exactly. You can't just go into every season an every draft an pick players just because "o well they fit our scheme perfectly, or he's a perfect shanahan offensive type player". Wtf kinda mentality is that. So what if every round there's a WR that fits our scheme perfectly. Are we gonna pick 7 WRs in 7 rounds??? Insanity.

Teams that want to contend HAVE to fill their needs, you can't just neglect them like we have with IOL an CB the last 2 years. Sry, Witherspoon and Moseley are not solid 2CBs. They look great due to an incredible pass rush. If you neglect that position long enough smart coaches will take advantage(KC, Saints, Falcons)

Kyle has had a hard on for run blocking so long he's completely ignored one of the most important parts of offense in 2020. Pass protection. He only wants run blocking OLmen an that's what we got. But no matter how good you are rushing Youl have to pass at some point. And while yes our passing game was not bad at all, our pass blocking was. And that's the result of neglecting pass pro. Sry but brunskill an skule looked just good enough to get us through the season. All 31 other teams watched the last quarter of that SB an saw what spagnuolo had his defense do to our IOL. Gave them the key to stop our O, rush up that weak IOL. If we start next season with no upgrade at at least one IOL position do not expect to go far.

Very critical stance and one that belies what New England did. They have needed receivers for years and still they didn't do a whole heck of a lot to help out there. Having Tom Brady really helps.

The IOL for San Francisco stands out as the weak link in the chain, although I think you are being a little unfair. For one, Richburg didn't play in the Super Bowl so that matters. This team, as constructed, was 7 minutes from being the best in the league and that's pretty damn good. We don't have Patrick Mahomes to single handedly win a game for us. The 49ers had an open receiver with the game on line and the QB missed the throw. It happens.

This offseason was about big choices. Cap choices meant they've had to choose between Armstead, Kwon, Buckner, Ford, Sanders and Kittle. They also lost Staley to retirement. Considering the loss of Buckner, Staley, and Sanders, the choice was really about leaving those roles filled with lesser players so they could boost IOL and CB or replace those losses. Clearly, they chose to refill for the losses.

Given the departures of Buckner, Sanders, and Staley in one offseason, I think the 49ers have done alright. Name me one team that doesn't have any holes.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by stefano89:

The Whole NFC conference and their playoffs is gonna be a bloodbath for the next 5 years at least. And we're smack dab right in the middle of the NFCW possibly the hardest division of them all. That's why I'm highly concerned about our corners and pass pro because we're not only gonna have a lot of big WRs an qbs to defend but we're gonna have to be putting up 30+ points a week to win.

TB12 an gronk are in TB now in one of the biggest offenses in the league. The panthers just went all defense with all their picks don't be surprised if their in contention. The saints picked up sanders and are going all out to try an end brees's career with a SB. Arizona is going to have a deadly offense l, they will be very hard to beat. The Seahawks will play us hard like they always do. Rams are trash. The Vikings had a solid draft an will improve. And the cowboys an eagles have more than enough firepower now to have big offenses.

The NFC playoffs are going to be brutal for years to come and we gotta have the fire power to stay on top. And I expect 3 NFCW teams in the playoffs this year.

Fully agree. There will always be the surprise team to rise and fall from expectations but damn, the NFC is no joke.

Arizona scares the hell out of me because of their style...it's just a tough matchup for our defense and now they might have a Kittle shadow. We could just as easily be 1st or 3rd in the NFCW and still have 10 wins.

Arizona to me is the scariest team in the NFC. We struggled vs them last year and Kyler is only going to get better. He like Wilson is the X factor vs us. He can essentially neutralize our dominant D line. They have a very physical D that just got a ton better and one of the best WR crews in the league. Simmons is going to be an absolute nightmare for Kittle I think. I can easily see AZ being the team in the West. I don't want to have to deal with the s**tty bandwagon Cards fans here

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by stefano89:

The Whole NFC conference and their playoffs is gonna be a bloodbath for the next 5 years at least. And we're smack dab right in the middle of the NFCW possibly the hardest division of them all. That's why I'm highly concerned about our corners and pass pro because we're not only gonna have a lot of big WRs an qbs to defend but we're gonna have to be putting up 30+ points a week to win.

TB12 an gronk are in TB now in one of the biggest offenses in the league. The panthers just went all defense with all their picks don't be surprised if their in contention. The saints picked up sanders and are going all out to try an end brees's career with a SB. Arizona is going to have a deadly offense l, they will be very hard to beat. The Seahawks will play us hard like they always do. Rams are trash. The Vikings had a solid draft an will improve. And the cowboys an eagles have more than enough firepower now to have big offenses.

The NFC playoffs are going to be brutal for years to come and we gotta have the fire power to stay on top. And I expect 3 NFCW teams in the playoffs this year.

Fully agree. There will always be the surprise team to rise and fall from expectations but damn, the NFC is no joke.

Arizona scares the hell out of me because of their style...it's just a tough matchup for our defense and now they might have a Kittle shadow. We could just as easily be 1st or 3rd in the NFCW and still have 10 wins.

Arizona to me is the scariest team in the NFC. We struggled vs them last year and Kyler is only going to get better. He like Wilson is the X factor vs us. He can essentially neutralize our dominant D line. They have a very physical D that just got a ton better and one of the best WR crews in the league. Simmons is going to be an absolute nightmare for Kittle I think. I can easily see AZ being the team in the West. I don't want to have to deal with the s**tty bandwagon Cards fans here

I agree. Arizona is on the rise and the Simmons pick was money for them.

Originally posted by bzborow1:

Originally posted by stefano89:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by stefano89:

We need that already. s**t we needed that last year that's not a future need. And we only covered our guard need if this 6th rd OT can start at guard.

I said it in a few other threads an il say it here cause the draft is making it more an more obvious, we WILL have to trade for a CB or OG mid season if we plan to make a SB run this year. Just like we did with sanders. An probly lose some more future mid rounders for it.

Tired of ignoring the teams needs for guys that "o well this player fits our type of play perfectly"

bingo

Wow good thing nobody in these forums actually runs an NFL team.

He's right though. Drafting a 5th round convert T to G isn't exactly addressing the glaring pass protection issues. Sherman got roasted in the Superbowl and looked embarrassingly slow and Moseley, like Brunskill flashed, but are still relatively unknowns at very important positions and they never found a speed edge rusher for a Ford security.

There's a very real chance all these repetitive issues cost us again. I hope not but every team has their weaknesses and holes...OK to be honest about that.

Exactly. You can't just go into every season an every draft an pick players just because "o well they fit our scheme perfectly, or he's a perfect shanahan offensive type player". Wtf kinda mentality is that. So what if every round there's a WR that fits our scheme perfectly. Are we gonna pick 7 WRs in 7 rounds??? Insanity.

Teams that want to contend HAVE to fill their needs, you can't just neglect them like we have with IOL an CB the last 2 years. Sry, Witherspoon and Moseley are not solid 2CBs. They look great due to an incredible pass rush. If you neglect that position long enough smart coaches will take advantage(KC, Saints, Falcons)

Kyle has had a hard on for run blocking so long he's completely ignored one of the most important parts of offense in 2020. Pass protection. He only wants run blocking OLmen an that's what we got. But no matter how good you are rushing Youl have to pass at some point. And while yes our passing game was not bad at all, our pass blocking was. And that's the result of neglecting pass pro. Sry but brunskill an skule looked just good enough to get us through the season. All 31 other teams watched the last quarter of that SB an saw what spagnuolo had his defense do to our IOL. Gave them the key to stop our O, rush up that weak IOL. If we start next season with no upgrade at at least one IOL position do not expect to go far.

Very critical stance and one that belies what New England did. They have needed receivers for years and still they didn't do a whole heck of a lot to help out there. Having Tom Brady really helps.

The IOL for San Francisco stands out as the weak link in the chain, although I think you are being a little unfair. For one, Richburg didn't play in the Super Bowl so that matters. This team, as constructed, was 7 minutes from being the best in the league and that's pretty damn good. We don't have Patrick Mahomes to single handedly win a game for us. The 49ers had an open receiver with the game on line and the QB missed the throw. It happens.

This offseason was about big choices. Cap choices meant they've had to choose between Armstead, Kwon, Buckner, Ford, Sanders and Kittle. They also lost Staley to retirement. Considering the loss of Buckner, Staley, and Sanders, the choice was really about leaving those roles filled with lesser players so they could boost IOL and CB or replace those losses. Clearly, they chose to refill for the losses.

Given the departures of Buckner, Sanders, and Staley in one offseason, I think the 49ers have done alright. Name me one team that doesn't have any holes.

Ya overall, now after the draft I think Wev has a good offseason so far. The draft picks, I think are good I just think it would have been smarter to pickup a CB or guard, or both, instead of kinlaw. Kinlaw looks exciting but tbh we just didn't need a DT more than we needed the other two positions. I think someone just said it an last season the chiefs and the cardinals showed us, you can have the leagues best DL like we do. s**t even the greatest in history, once your opponent figured that out if they have a good coach they can almost completely neutralize that #1 DL. The chiefs did, the Seahawks and cards did. The saints did. Get that ball out in less than 2 seconds and it doesn't matter a bit how monstrous your Pass rush is. A human being cannot physically get his body to the qb within the time he's gonna throw it when that's how their game planning.

That's why Iv been saying we gotta pick up a CB to put some talent on the back end of that D. Hopefully we trade for one during this season but unfortshbtely that's just gonna continue Lynch's cycle of selling future draft picks an goin into drafts with no ammo.

Originally posted by stefano89:

Originally posted by bzborow1:

Originally posted by stefano89:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by stefano89:
We need that already. s**t we needed that last year that's not a future need. And we only covered our guard need if this 6th rd OT can start at guard.

I said it in a few other threads an il say it here cause the draft is making it more an more obvious, we WILL have to trade for a CB or OG mid season if we plan to make a SB run this year. Just like we did with sanders. An probly lose some more future mid rounders for it.

Tired of ignoring the teams needs for guys that "o well this player fits our type of play perfectly"

bingo

Wow good thing nobody in these forums actually runs an NFL team.

He's right though. Drafting a 5th round convert T to G isn't exactly addressing the glaring pass protection issues. Sherman got roasted in the Superbowl and looked embarrassingly slow and Moseley, like Brunskill flashed, but are still relatively unknowns at very important positions and they never found a speed edge rusher for a Ford security.

There's a very real chance all these repetitive issues cost us again. I hope not but every team has their weaknesses and holes...OK to be honest about that.

Exactly. You can't just go into every season an every draft an pick players just because "o well they fit our scheme perfectly, or he's a perfect shanahan offensive type player". Wtf kinda mentality is that. So what if every round there's a WR that fits our scheme perfectly. Are we gonna pick 7 WRs in 7 rounds??? Insanity.

Teams that want to contend HAVE to fill their needs, you can't just neglect them like we have with IOL an CB the last 2 years. Sry, Witherspoon and Moseley are not solid 2CBs. They look great due to an incredible pass rush. If you neglect that position long enough smart coaches will take advantage(KC, Saints, Falcons)

Kyle has had a hard on for run blocking so long he's completely ignored one of the most important parts of offense in 2020. Pass protection. He only wants run blocking OLmen an that's what we got. But no matter how good you are rushing Youl have to pass at some point. And while yes our passing game was not bad at all, our pass blocking was. And that's the result of neglecting pass pro. Sry but brunskill an skule looked just good enough to get us through the season. All 31 other teams watched the last quarter of that SB an saw what spagnuolo had his defense do to our IOL. Gave them the key to stop our O, rush up that weak IOL. If we start next season with no upgrade at at least one IOL position do not expect to go far.

Very critical stance and one that belies what New England did. They have needed receivers for years and still they didn't do a whole heck of a lot to help out there. Having Tom Brady really helps.

The IOL for San Francisco stands out as the weak link in the chain, although I think you are being a little unfair. For one, Richburg didn't play in the Super Bowl so that matters. This team, as constructed, was 7 minutes from being the best in the league and that's pretty damn good. We don't have Patrick Mahomes to single handedly win a game for us. The 49ers had an open receiver with the game on line and the QB missed the throw. It happens.

This offseason was about big choices. Cap choices meant they've had to choose between Armstead, Kwon, Buckner, Ford, Sanders and Kittle. They also lost Staley to retirement. Considering the loss of Buckner, Staley, and Sanders, the choice was really about leaving those roles filled with lesser players so they could boost IOL and CB or replace those losses. Clearly, they chose to refill for the losses.

Given the departures of Buckner, Sanders, and Staley in one offseason, I think the 49ers have done alright. Name me one team that doesn't have any holes.

Ya overall, now after the draft I think Wev has a good offseason so far. The draft picks, I think are good I just think it would have been smarter to pickup a CB or guard, or both, instead of kinlaw. Kinlaw looks exciting but tbh we just didn't need a DT more than we needed the other two positions. I think someone just said it an last season the chiefs and the cardinals showed us, you can have the leagues best DL like we do. s**t even the greatest in history, once your opponent figured that out if they have a good coach they can almost completely neutralize that #1 DL. The chiefs did, the Seahawks and cards did. The saints did. Get that ball out in less than 2 seconds and it doesn't matter a bit how monstrous your Pass rush is. A human being cannot physically get his body to the qb within the time he's gonna throw it when that's how their game planning.

That's why Iv been saying we gotta pick up a CB to put some talent on the back end of that D. Hopefully we trade for one during this season but unfortshbtely that's just gonna continue Lynch's cycle of selling future draft picks an goin into drafts with no ammo.

The 49ers record against those teams last season was 4-2, and the one Seahawks game was lost because of a trailer park kicker they had to bring in. I would love to add a DB, and my top pick going into the draft was CJ Henderson, but he was gone. I also loved Terrell from Clemson.

Anyways, people forget the 49ers controlled the KC game until they didn't, and that can happen against a player whos put up stats resembling an all-time great season. They have areas they need to improve, but I think the fanbase is overreacting to the Super Bowl. The way the 49ers defense played through 3 and half quarters, some would argue the offense is the real reason the 49ers lost.