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Will we be able to afford & keep our D-line intact?

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Will we be able to afford & keep our D-line intact?

Isn't the collective bargaining agreement expiring this year or next. That raises the possibility of a strike and may effect contract negotiations.
Originally posted by Mooseman:
Tough to do. Have to extend Buck, Kittle, Ward. Tartt, and the list goes on. If you want that much money tied up in the D line you have to release solly, McKinnon , Goodwin, maybe Coleman:

The only one of those who might keep me from falling directly asleep at night is Coleman.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Isn't the collective bargaining agreement expiring this year or next. That raises the possibility of a strike and may effect contract negotiations.


CBA negotiations are moving ad smoothly as can be according to recent reports. Neither side wants a strike and its not altogether unlikely that we see a significant salary cap boost coming.
Originally posted by Mooseman:
Tough to do. Have to extend Buck, Kittle, Ward. Tartt, and the list goes on. If you want that much money tied up in the D line you have to release solly, McKinnon , Goodwin, maybe Coleman:


Originally posted by Lott94:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Look at the years he cut those guys. He didn't cut those guys in the prime of their career. Using your Bill Walsh analogy, he gets 2 to 3 more years out of AA, then cuts/trades him. This is like cutting Freddie Solomon in 81 or Fred Dean in 82. Unless Armstead absolutely wants top dollar, we can make this work. I think anywhere from 10 to 15 million is doable for the short term. He won't play out the entire contract because we have higher guys on the pecking order whose deals will expire (Bosa in particular) OR AA can opt for the short term deal of 2 to 3 years at 10 to 15 million and then have a shot at a third big money contract. He'd still be under 30 and have several prime years left, while likely he has a legit shot at being an All-Pro/multi-time Pro Bowler and in A LOT of prime time games on this Dline for a few more seasons. He also has a much easier job facing guards or tackles usually one on one because it is suicide to consistently double any one guy on this Dline. I see Subway commercials in this guy's future with that belly rub sack celebration lol. And that will only drive his price tag higher in 2 years, provided he is healthy :-).

I seriously doubt Armstead will take anywhere close to 10 mil a year, nor want a short team deal. Especially with long term contracts on the horizon. I can see on the open market, at his age getting 13-15 mil a year/5 years with 30-40 guaranteed.

13 to 15 is still in the range I said (10 to 15). As for short term, he can get a bigger deal in 2 to 3 years. If there's A LOT of guarantees still tied into it (still guarantee the 30 million), why not?
Originally posted by Mooseman:
Tough to do. Have to extend Buck, Kittle, Ward. Tartt, and the list goes on. If you want that much money tied up in the D line you have to release solly, McKinnon , Goodwin, maybe Coleman:

DBuck and Kittle are being extended for sure. The draft could change our long term thoughts on Ward and Tartt. Tartt could be extended on the cheap though.
Originally posted by Lott94:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Look at the years he cut those guys. He didn't cut those guys in the prime of their career. Using your Bill Walsh analogy, he gets 2 to 3 more years out of AA, then cuts/trades him. This is like cutting Freddie Solomon in 81 or Fred Dean in 82. Unless Armstead absolutely wants top dollar, we can make this work. I think anywhere from 10 to 15 million is doable for the short term. He won't play out the entire contract because we have higher guys on the pecking order whose deals will expire (Bosa in particular) OR AA can opt for the short term deal of 2 to 3 years at 10 to 15 million and then have a shot at a third big money contract. He'd still be under 30 and have several prime years left, while likely he has a legit shot at being an All-Pro/multi-time Pro Bowler and in A LOT of prime time games on this Dline for a few more seasons. He also has a much easier job facing guards or tackles usually one on one because it is suicide to consistently double any one guy on this Dline. I see Subway commercials in this guy's future with that belly rub sack celebration lol. And that will only drive his price tag higher in 2 years, provided he is healthy :-).

I seriously doubt Armstead will take anywhere close to 10 mil a year, nor want a short team deal. Especially with long term contracts on the horizon. I can see on the open market, at his age getting 13-15 mil a year/5 years with 30-40 guaranteed.

Agreed. Put yourself in Armstead's shoes. If he can land a five year deal at ten million per year, with at least three of those years guaranteed, he's not sticking around for one year at $12-$15 million.
id let AA walk. Yea he is having a great season but he was a total bust before this year. Surround a guy with talent and he will look better. I think we can sign/draft a solid replacement and keep the group together with the money saved.
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Originally posted by CityKing415:
id let AA walk. Yea he is having a great season but he was a total bust before this year. Surround a guy with talent and he will look better. I think we can sign/draft a solid replacement and keep the group together with the money saved.

Witherspoon, Goodwin, Pettis got surrounded by more talent and got worse.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by CityKing415:
id let AA walk. Yea he is having a great season but he was a total bust before this year. Surround a guy with talent and he will look better. I think we can sign/draft a solid replacement and keep the group together with the money saved.

Witherspoon, Goodwin, Pettis got surrounded by more talent and got worse.

I dont think they were very good to begin with

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Gut feeling, no.
Originally posted by CityKing415:
id let AA walk. Yea he is having a great season but he was a total bust before this year. Surround a guy with talent and he will look better. I think we can sign/draft a solid replacement and keep the group together with the money saved.


He was already playing well last year, you just weren't paying attention.
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As Stephen A Smith would say, "Hell.....No."
Gotta admit I voted late.
Lookin less and less like we'll be able to, fellas
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