The Niners WR position and why I think trading for another WR is a mistake | Page 4

9erred · 2019-10-21T08:46:39-07:00

I am usually critical, but I actually LIKE our Niner WR's. I think someone needs to earn the right of number 1 and number 2, but I would not mortgage the future to bring in another WR. 1. Deebo Samuel- Obviously a favorite of the coach he gets multiple targets a game and they scheme him open. He is a keeper 2. Dante Pettis- supposed injury in beginning of season, but this kid has the tools and needs to earn a spot, he could earn the top spot. Give this kid all the reps he can. Let him earn the chance to be special. 3. Trent Taylor- injured, but he is the slot man who can score. In my humble opinion these are the top 3 WR's. Now we have the wild cards 4. Goodwin- high paid, can stretch the field. I think the team needs to run him deep several times a game if anything to tire out the secondary of the other team. I think he is gone next year but this year use him while we have him. 5. Jordan Mathews- the former 2nd round pick is actually as good as our starters. Give him a chance to be a starter. Just get it done. 6. Richie James Jr- the 7th round pick that everyone WANTS to cut but all he does is return punts, kick, and get open. I think he is a keeper. 7. Kendrick Bourne- he comes up with big catches I think he and Jordan Mathews are interchangeable. 8. Jalen Hurd- Injured non factor until next season. That being said I think he could be TE number /FB/WR So WHY trade a high draft pick for another WR? Just my opinion but lets let the above prove they can play. I have confidence in all of them and hope that Deebo , Pettis and Taylor can step up to be the starters.

Oct 21, 2019 at 12:01 PM

#46

WestCoastForever
Veteran
Posts: 3,801

The current roster of wide receivers will step up when needed , once they are all healthy. Hurd won't be ready for primetime for a while.

Oct 21, 2019 at 12:04 PM

#47

goldlame2013
Veteran
Posts: 1,225

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by Oilcan:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
I say before we make any trade for a WR we at least give Hurd a really good look with good opportunities. While I'd like to make a trade for a really established, proven guy (like A.J. Green) I just don't wanna mortgage our future before we've given these draftees a decent chance to show why they were drafted first.

Now, I will say that we may need to draft a WR in the 1st in the 2020 draft, and he should not be a slot-style WR either.

Trade deadline will be over before Hurd can make an impact and to expect a 3rd round Rookie who is playing s new position to step in and make a big impact is just wishful thinking.

See my response to cciowa above. It applies to you as well.

Hurd had a hairline fracture in his back. Shut him down for the season. Can't risk the kids career. Make a trade, but be reasonable.

Oct 21, 2019 at 12:04 PM

#48

northoakland510
Veteran
Posts: 2,513

If they can get a true #1 with a trade I am good with it. A #1 receiver would put the other guys in positions they should excel in.

Oct 21, 2019 at 12:05 PM

#49

Hysterikal
Veteran
Posts: 39,761

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
The current roster of wide receivers will step up when needed , once they are all healthy. Hurd won't be ready for primetime for a while.

This. We are a run first team and haven't really needed huge production from receivers up to this point.

Oct 21, 2019 at 12:09 PM

#50

9ersLiferInChicago
Veteran
Posts: 11,226

Originally posted by goldlame2013:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Oilcan:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
I say before we make any trade for a WR we at least give Hurd a really good look with good opportunities. While I'd like to make a trade for a really established, proven guy (like A.J. Green) I just don't wanna mortgage our future before we've given these draftees a decent chance to show why they were drafted first.

Now, I will say that we may need to draft a WR in the 1st in the 2020 draft, and he should not be a slot-style WR either.

Trade deadline will be over before Hurd can make an impact and to expect a 3rd round Rookie who is playing s new position to step in and make a big impact is just wishful thinking.

See my response to cciowa above. It applies to you as well.

Hurd had a hairline fracture in his back. Shut him down for the season. Can't risk the kids career. Make a trade, but be reasonable.

Ok, how would that trade look?

Oct 21, 2019 at 12:14 PM

#51

WestCoastForever
Veteran
Posts: 3,801

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
The current roster of wide receivers will step up when needed , once they are all healthy. Hurd won't be ready for primetime for a while.

This. We are a run first team and haven't really needed huge production from receivers up to this point.

Correct for the present. I do anticipate Kyle bringing more balance Between run and pass . When there is more balance, it's more difficult for defenses to stop either one.

Oct 21, 2019 at 12:23 PM

#52

PhillyNiner
Veteran
Posts: 8,995

Originally posted by northoakland510:
If they can get a true #1 with a trade I am good with it. A #1 receiver would put the other guys in positions they should excel in.

There is no planet where can fit the cap space of a true in their prime #1 receiver even if somebody would let one go for some crazy ass reason.

Oct 21, 2019 at 12:25 PM

#53

dmax
Veteran
Posts: 22,900

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Devante Parker, Miami fire sale.
6-3, 215 libs, 26 years of age
2015 Draft: 1st round, 11th overall
2019 stats: 18 catches, 284 yards, 3 TDs
Good hands, strong, aggressive
2017 highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mam-41AfMM

yup

Oct 21, 2019 at 12:26 PM

#54

lamontb
Veteran
Posts: 33,168

Yea we need help on the outside no doubt about it. There will come a time when we are down and need to make big plays to win. It can't all be on Kittle and schemes. We need a dog at wr that will go get the ball and make plays.

Oct 21, 2019 at 12:26 PM

#55

PhillyNiner
Veteran
Posts: 8,995

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by goldlame2013:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by Oilcan:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
I say before we make any trade for a WR we at least give Hurd a really good look with good opportunities. While I'd like to make a trade for a really established, proven guy (like A.J. Green) I just don't wanna mortgage our future before we've given these draftees a decent chance to show why they were drafted first.

Now, I will say that we may need to draft a WR in the 1st in the 2020 draft, and he should not be a slot-style WR either.

Trade deadline will be over before Hurd can make an impact and to expect a 3rd round Rookie who is playing s new position to step in and make a big impact is just wishful thinking.

See my response to cciowa above. It applies to you as well.

Hurd had a hairline fracture in his back. Shut him down for the season. Can't risk the kids career. Make a trade, but be reasonable.
Ok, how would that trade look?

I would be in at a 4th and a future pick up to a 4th depending on restructure/ resign/ playing time for A.J. Green or Emmanuel Sanders. A 5th for Sanu. Any higher and I am out. I think we would have to send a player of equal value and cap hit to do a deal for Parker and I am out on that as well.

Oct 21, 2019 at 12:28 PM

#56

okdkid
Veteran
Posts: 23,726

Several teams have called. NE, CAR, SF, NO etc.

Gut says SF, but I dont know yet. https://t.co/a3EdIb0R5p
— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) October 21, 2019

Oct 21, 2019 at 12:29 PM

#57

dmax
Veteran
Posts: 22,900

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
JimmyG's going to need another legitimate threat when Kittle is taken away by the better defenses in the playoffs. Teams are figuring out how to do that already. An increased chance at a SB ring is easily worth a mid level draft pick in this case.

this...why cant some of u see that..A #1 WR IS A MUST

Oct 21, 2019 at 12:32 PM

#58

lamontb
Veteran
Posts: 33,168

Originally posted by okdkid:
Several teams have called. NE, CAR, SF, NO etc.

Gut says SF, but I dont know yet. https://t.co/a3EdIb0R5p
— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) October 21, 2019

Send them a 4th rounder

Oct 21, 2019 at 12:41 PM

#59

okdkid
Veteran
Posts: 23,726

Originally posted by lamontb:
Send them a 4th rounder

Too much for 10 games of a dude who will not play for you in 2020

Oct 21, 2019 at 12:46 PM

#60

PhillyNiner
Veteran
Posts: 8,995

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Send them a 4th rounder

Too much for 10 games of a dude who will not play for you in 2020

Yeah, that is my issue with him. His measurable are great but what they will probably want and how he will likely expect to get paid just don't line up for how often he has actually ben available to play the last two years. People complain about A.J. but at least he has a history of being a very good receiver. Parker has basically the same injury history the last two years without he years and years of amazing productivity before that...all he has in his favor is being young, which might not be a good thing because people over value that.