Defensive Line Thread

We only need him to be solid vs the run and a6 sack season seems easily attainable since he had 3.5 sacks and a s**tload of batted balls while
1) Only playing 12 games
2) Playing beside backups at DT (AA and Kinlaw were out most of the time)

Now he gets to play beside AA or Hargrave

Our DL will still be top 3 in the NFL

Originally posted by elguapo:
We only need him to be solid vs the run and a6 sack season seems easily attainable since he had 3.5 sacks and a s**tload of batted balls while
1) Only playing 12 games
2) Playing beside backups at DT (AA and Kinlaw were out most of the time)

Now he gets to play beside AA or Hargrave

Our DL will still be top 3 in the NFL

I don't see it. Maybe top 10. We need more at right end to be elite. Have a feeling we may need to add a wide body run stuffer too.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by elguapo:
We only need him to be solid vs the run and a6 sack season seems easily attainable since he had 3.5 sacks and a s**tload of batted balls while
1) Only playing 12 games
2) Playing beside backups at DT (AA and Kinlaw were out most of the time)

Now he gets to play beside AA or Hargrave

Our DL will still be top 3 in the NFL

I don't see it. Maybe top 10. We need more at right end to be elite. Have a feeling we may need to add a wide body run stuffer too.

Seriously? I'd love to see the 9 you'd rank above the Niners. I don't think you could realistically name 5.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Seriously? I'd love to see the 9 you'd rank above the Niners. I don't think you could realistically name 5.

LLast year we had a lot more depth. This year I think we could be in for some hard times if Armistead gets hurt and none of the acquisitions contribute much besides Hargrave. We're talking about 2023 not 2022

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Seriously? I'd love to see the 9 you'd rank above the Niners. I don't think you could realistically name 5.

LLast year we had a lot more depth. This year I think we could be in for some hard times if Armistead gets hurt and none of the acquisitions contribute much besides Hargrave. We're talking about 2023 not 2022

And when discussing DL rankings, we're talking about starters, not backups.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Seriously? I'd love to see the 9 you'd rank above the Niners. I don't think you could realistically name 5.

LLast year we had a lot more depth. This year I think we could be in for some hard times if Armistead gets hurt and none of the acquisitions contribute much besides Hargrave. We're talking about 2023 not 2022

And when discussing DL rankings, we're talking about starters, not backups.

No, I don't think so. I think we're talking about overall effectiveness. We lost omenihu, ridgeway, ebukam, willis. injury question marks are kinlaw, bryant. even if I put armstead ferrel and jackson down for 400 snaps each, we're still kinda short in my view. Even with hargrave.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Seriously? I'd love to see the 9 you'd rank above the Niners. I don't think you could realistically name 5.

LLast year we had a lot more depth. This year I think we could be in for some hard times if Armistead gets hurt and none of the acquisitions contribute much besides Hargrave. We're talking about 2023 not 2022

And when discussing DL rankings, we're talking about starters, not backups.

No, I don't think so. I think we're talking about overall effectiveness. We lost omenihu, ridgeway, ebukam, willis. injury question marks are kinlaw, bryant. even if I put armstead ferrel and jackson down for 400 snaps each, we're still kinda short in my view. Even with hargrave.

But we still have Kahlia Davis, TY McGill, Kerry Hyder, and I'm curious on what we are getting from Beal. TC and preseason games will answer most of our questions.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Seriously? I'd love to see the 9 you'd rank above the Niners. I don't think you could realistically name 5.

LLast year we had a lot more depth. This year I think we could be in for some hard times if Armistead gets hurt and none of the acquisitions contribute much besides Hargrave. We're talking about 2023 not 2022

And when discussing DL rankings, we're talking about starters, not backups.

No, I don't think so. I think we're talking about overall effectiveness. We lost omenihu, ridgeway, ebukam, willis. injury question marks are kinlaw, bryant. even if I put armstead ferrel and jackson down for 400 snaps each, we're still kinda short in my view. Even with hargrave.

You do realize Ekubam and Omenihu had less than 5 sacks each and Hargrave More than replaces any depth and any starter(s). You know, that ALL PRO DT we just signed coming off his best season ever.

Come on mannnnn! I guess if the Rams lose Aaron Donald or the Chiefs lose Chris Jones we can all say at least they didn't lose the depth behind the them with your logic Brodie.

like I said, easily top 5 if not top 3

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Seriously? I'd love to see the 9 you'd rank above the Niners. I don't think you could realistically name 5.

LLast year we had a lot more depth. This year I think we could be in for some hard times if Armistead gets hurt and none of the acquisitions contribute much besides Hargrave. We're talking about 2023 not 2022

And when discussing DL rankings, we're talking about starters, not backups.

No, I don't think so. I think we're talking about overall effectiveness. We lost omenihu, ridgeway, ebukam, willis. injury question marks are kinlaw, bryant. even if I put armstead ferrel and jackson down for 400 snaps each, we're still kinda short in my view. Even with hargrave.

You do realize Ekubam and Omenihu had less than 5 sacks each and Hargrave More than replaces any depth and any starter(s). You know, that ALL PRO DT we just signed coming off his best season ever.

Come on mannnnn! I guess if the Rams lose Aaron Donald or the Chiefs lose Chris Jones we can all say at least they didn't lose the depth behind the them with your logic Brodie.

like I said, easily top 5 if not top 3

There's a couple of questions here. First is, did we replace our depth? Second is, how do we get back to dominating with our wide 9 scheme and Bosa?

If we get a B+ Edge rusher we actually answer both questions. We help make up for losing a bunch of high 60s graded guys who accounted for 13 sacks. We also fulfill our original vision of how to leverage wide 9 which was to Force teams to under block Bosa or watch pressure develop in the quarterback's face all game long.

If we can get 400 snaps from Houston, say, for a reasonable cost we shouldn't have to think about it.

I'm concerned Bosa will be overworked if Drake isn't legit on the other side. It seems a bit risky to count on him.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Seriously? I'd love to see the 9 you'd rank above the Niners. I don't think you could realistically name 5.

LLast year we had a lot more depth. This year I think we could be in for some hard times if Armistead gets hurt and none of the acquisitions contribute much besides Hargrave. We're talking about 2023 not 2022

And when discussing DL rankings, we're talking about starters, not backups.

No, I don't think so. I think we're talking about overall effectiveness. We lost omenihu, ridgeway, ebukam, willis. injury question marks are kinlaw, bryant. even if I put armstead ferrel and jackson down for 400 snaps each, we're still kinda short in my view. Even with hargrave.

You do realize Ekubam and Omenihu had less than 5 sacks each and Hargrave More than replaces any depth and any starter(s). You know, that ALL PRO DT we just signed coming off his best season ever.

Come on mannnnn! I guess if the Rams lose Aaron Donald or the Chiefs lose Chris Jones we can all say at least they didn't lose the depth behind the them with your logic Brodie.

like I said, easily top 5 if not top 3

I have to agree with Guapo here, as much as I loved Ebukam & Omenihu, it's not like they were lighting up the stat sheet sack wise, Hargrave will make up for that, and I believe a healthy Armstead will get back on track sack wise.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm concerned Bosa will be overworked if Drake isn't legit on the other side. It seems a bit risky to count on him.

I doubt we overuse Bosa, whoever the other 4 or so EDGE's are, they'll get PT, Bosa & Drake get the most, I have a good feeling about Drake, I think he breaks out this season like Huf & Banks did last year.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Seriously? I'd love to see the 9 you'd rank above the Niners. I don't think you could realistically name 5.

LLast year we had a lot more depth. This year I think we could be in for some hard times if Armistead gets hurt and none of the acquisitions contribute much besides Hargrave. We're talking about 2023 not 2022

And when discussing DL rankings, we're talking about starters, not backups.

No, I don't think so. I think we're talking about overall effectiveness. We lost omenihu, ridgeway, ebukam, willis. injury question marks are kinlaw, bryant. even if I put armstead ferrel and jackson down for 400 snaps each, we're still kinda short in my view. Even with hargrave.

You do realize Ekubam and Omenihu had less than 5 sacks each and Hargrave More than replaces any depth and any starter(s). You know, that ALL PRO DT we just signed coming off his best season ever.

Come on mannnnn! I guess if the Rams lose Aaron Donald or the Chiefs lose Chris Jones we can all say at least they didn't lose the depth behind the them with your logic Brodie.

like I said, easily top 5 if not top 3

I have to agree with Guapo here, as much as I loved Ebukam & Omenihu, it's not like they were lighting up the stat sheet sack wise, Hargrave will make up for that, and I believe a healthy Armstead will get back on track sack wise.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm concerned Bosa will be overworked if Drake isn't legit on the other side. It seems a bit risky to count on him.

I doubt we overuse Bosa, whoever the other 4 or so EDGE's are, they'll get PT, Bosa & Drake get the most, I have a good feeling about Drake, I think he breaks out this season like Huf & Banks did last year.

I hope you're instinct is right. Bosa just never seems to get that help on the other side and he and Kyle put so much on him to be the difference.

No doubt having Hargrave next to him will help take a load off.

I think I'd just feel better if we got a known veteran to help just in case.

The best solution is a tag team with Drake and a 400 snap vet on the weak side. The spacing sets up a power rush over Center and interior gaps for blitzes to get through. It seems like a no-brainer if we can keep the expense to under 10. We're paying Trey that for gosh sake.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Seriously? I'd love to see the 9 you'd rank above the Niners. I don't think you could realistically name 5.

LLast year we had a lot more depth. This year I think we could be in for some hard times if Armistead gets hurt and none of the acquisitions contribute much besides Hargrave. We're talking about 2023 not 2022

And when discussing DL rankings, we're talking about starters, not backups.

No, I don't think so. I think we're talking about overall effectiveness. We lost omenihu, ridgeway, ebukam, willis. injury question marks are kinlaw, bryant. even if I put armstead ferrel and jackson down for 400 snaps each, we're still kinda short in my view. Even with hargrave.

You do realize Ekubam and Omenihu had less than 5 sacks each and Hargrave More than replaces any depth and any starter(s). You know, that ALL PRO DT we just signed coming off his best season ever.

Come on mannnnn! I guess if the Rams lose Aaron Donald or the Chiefs lose Chris Jones we can all say at least they didn't lose the depth behind the them with your logic Brodie.

like I said, easily top 5 if not top 3

I have to agree with Guapo here, as much as I loved Ebukam & Omenihu, it's not like they were lighting up the stat sheet sack wise, Hargrave will make up for that, and I believe a healthy Armstead will get back on track sack wise.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm concerned Bosa will be overworked if Drake isn't legit on the other side. It seems a bit risky to count on him.

I doubt we overuse Bosa, whoever the other 4 or so EDGE's are, they'll get PT, Bosa & Drake get the most, I have a good feeling about Drake, I think he breaks out this season like Huf & Banks did last year.

I hope you're instinct is right. Bosa just never seems to get that help on the other side and he and Kyle put so much on him to be the difference.

No doubt having Hargrave next to him will help take a load off.

I think I'd just feel better if we got a known veteran to help just in case.

The other edges will get playing time but will it be good playing time. We thought we had a good rotation last year and that was wrong. the other de;s did next to nothing in terms of getting to the qb. We can't keep expecting the defense to win late in games with 1 pass rusher on the field. Hargraves is going to be good but never count on IDL for huge sack numbers.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Seriously? I'd love to see the 9 you'd rank above the Niners. I don't think you could realistically name 5.

LLast year we had a lot more depth. This year I think we could be in for some hard times if Armistead gets hurt and none of the acquisitions contribute much besides Hargrave. We're talking about 2023 not 2022

And when discussing DL rankings, we're talking about starters, not backups.

No, I don't think so. I think we're talking about overall effectiveness. We lost omenihu, ridgeway, ebukam, willis. injury question marks are kinlaw, bryant. even if I put armstead ferrel and jackson down for 400 snaps each, we're still kinda short in my view. Even with hargrave.

You do realize Ekubam and Omenihu had less than 5 sacks each and Hargrave More than replaces any depth and any starter(s). You know, that ALL PRO DT we just signed coming off his best season ever.

Come on mannnnn! I guess if the Rams lose Aaron Donald or the Chiefs lose Chris Jones we can all say at least they didn't lose the depth behind the them with your logic Brodie.

like I said, easily top 5 if not top 3

I have to agree with Guapo here, as much as I loved Ebukam & Omenihu, it's not like they were lighting up the stat sheet sack wise, Hargrave will make up for that, and I believe a healthy Armstead will get back on track sack wise.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm concerned Bosa will be overworked if Drake isn't legit on the other side. It seems a bit risky to count on him.

I doubt we overuse Bosa, whoever the other 4 or so EDGE's are, they'll get PT, Bosa & Drake get the most, I have a good feeling about Drake, I think he breaks out this season like Huf & Banks did last year.

I hope you're instinct is right. Bosa just never seems to get that help on the other side and he and Kyle put so much on him to be the difference.

No doubt having Hargrave next to him will help take a load off.

I think I'd just feel better if we got a known veteran to help just in case.

The other edges will get playing time but will it be good playing time. We thought we had a good rotation last year and that was wrong. the other de;s did next to nothing in terms of getting to the qb. We can't keep expecting the defense to win late in games with 1 pass rusher on the field. Hargraves is going to be good but never count on IDL for huge sack numbers.

My exact thoughts and concern.