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  • cciowa
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Man, we need Willis to come through for us.

i think some sort of a move needs to happen.. i hope you are right about him. but i am not confident
Went from the best unit in football to one of the worst in less than a year.
I was surprised Clay Matthews had 8 sacks in 2019. Seems like he'd be worth having at least as a third down pressure guy.
  • cciowa
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Originally posted by pdfortune:
I was surprised Clay Matthews had 8 sacks in 2019. Seems like he'd be worth having at least as a third down pressure guy.

other teams find ways to make things work. not sure why lynch does not at least make an effort. its a position crying out for help in my opinion
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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by pdfortune:
I was surprised Clay Matthews had 8 sacks in 2019. Seems like he'd be worth having at least as a third down pressure guy.

other teams find ways to make things work. not sure why lynch does not at least make an effort. its a position crying out for help in my opinion

The 49ers have 0 cap space to sign a vet. Matthews isn't coming back to the NFL for scraps. Giving Ziggy Ansah that much $ to play a game and a half was a terrible investment.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by pdfortune:
I was surprised Clay Matthews had 8 sacks in 2019. Seems like he'd be worth having at least as a third down pressure guy.

other teams find ways to make things work. not sure why lynch does not at least make an effort. its a position crying out for help in my opinion

The 49ers have 0 cap space to sign a vet. Matthews isn't coming back to the NFL for scraps. Giving Ziggy Ansah that much $ to play a game and a half was a terrible investment.

That is what happens when you hit the panic button.
  • cciowa
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Originally posted by leakyfausett:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by pdfortune:
I was surprised Clay Matthews had 8 sacks in 2019. Seems like he'd be worth having at least as a third down pressure guy.

other teams find ways to make things work. not sure why lynch does not at least make an effort. its a position crying out for help in my opinion

The 49ers have 0 cap space to sign a vet. Matthews isn't coming back to the NFL for scraps. Giving Ziggy Ansah that much $ to play a game and a half was a terrible investment.

That is what happens when you hit the panic button.
no one is panicking.... its just some of us are rightfully concerned about no pass rush, i would cut ward and pettis today. that would free up some money?
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Went from the best unit in football to one of the worst in less than a year.

Tell us more about being "one of the worst"
I was just thinking about how many times this team was bailed out by our ferocious pass rush from last year, and it really hit me after today's game. We're a shell of ourselves from last year because of the pass rush or lack thereof. It's incredibly disheartening when our defense gets the opposing offense in an obvious passing situation and knowing the opposing QB is going to have all day if we don't send an extra man or two on passing downs.

Kinlaw - As expected: raw as hell. We're getting almost nothing out of our 3technique in regards to rushing the passer. We all knew Kinlaw would take some time to develop, but the drop off from Defo has been killing us these last few games. Defo wasn't a steady pass rusher on a snap-to-snap basis, but you knew he would eventually land one of those arm overs for a sack almost every other week.
AA - Played well to start the year, but he's just a guy at the moment.
EDGE - we have no edge rushers. Dee Ford is hurt like always, and Bosa, a quintessential game-changer, was lost for the year in week 2. We literally have no edgerush.

49ers have a few nice rotational players in Kevin Givens and Kerry Hyder, who has exceeded our expectations, but these are not guys we should be relying on.

[ Edited by Heroism on Nov 1, 2020 at 11:09 PM ]
Originally posted by Heroism:
I was just thinking about how many times this team was bailed out by our ferocious pass rush from last year, and it really hit me after today's game. We're a shell of ourselves from last year because of the pass rush or lack thereof. It's incredibly disheartening when our defense gets the opposing offense in an obvious passing situation and knowing the opposing QB is going to have all day if we don't send an extra man or two on passing downs.

Kinlaw - As expected: raw as hell. We're getting almost nothing out of our 3technique in regards to rushing the passer. We all knew Kinlaw would take some time to develop, but the drop off from Defo has been killing us these last few games.
AA - Played well to start the year, but he's just a guy at the moment.
EDGE - we have no EDGE. Dee Ford is hurt like always, and Bosa, a quintessential game-changer, was lost for the year in week 2.

49ers have a few nice rotational players in Kevin Givens and Kerry Hyder, who has exceeded our expectations, but these are not guys we should be relying on.


It just hit you ? Bosa was critical to this dline. The way he got pressures and set the edge and would shoestring tackler wilson...when Bosa went down it shouldve hit you...with no Bosa or Buckner and with Dee Ford constantly hurt, the best part of the team was crippled

What once was. From the best pass-rushing DL in the league to one of the worst.

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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by pdfortune:
I was surprised Clay Matthews had 8 sacks in 2019. Seems like he'd be worth having at least as a third down pressure guy.

other teams find ways to make things work. not sure why lynch does not at least make an effort. its a position crying out for help in my opinion

The 49ers have 0 cap space to sign a vet. Matthews isn't coming back to the NFL for scraps. Giving Ziggy Ansah that much $ to play a game and a half was a terrible investment.

Don't remind me.
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
It just hit you ? Bosa was critical to this dline. The way he got pressures and set the edge and would shoestring tackler wilson...when Bosa went down it shouldve hit you...with no Bosa or Buckner and with Dee Ford constantly hurt, the best part of the team was crippled

Yep. Bosa is the straw that stirs the drink. Strong play from Warner and Verrett can't wholly make up for it.
Can't believe they paid AA over Defo
I haven't seen much growth from DJ Jones. I expected him to make more plays. Can we also attribute some of his play last year to being next to Buck? Wonder why smart teams pay all pro interior d lineman instead of trading them.
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