DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Imo I would say Garnett and Ward are injury prone. I cannot label Bosa that at this time. It's not like he was walking and just fell because the wind blew. A very large man rolled up his leg. He's lucky imo.

Not arguing one way or another. But the injuries to Ward (all of them) and Garnett (also, all of them) were caused by other acts of physics. Why are they "prone" and not just victims of "bad luck"?

Again, I'm not arguing one way or the other. It's just that it seems pretty clear that bad players = prone, good players = bad luck.

Well history is a big deal imo. Bosa is unknown, but the details we have are he was rolled on. That's bad luck.

Ward takes a s**t and sprains his ass. Garnett waves hello to someone and his hand falls off. That's prone. These guys always get hurt.

I agree let Bosa sit a few weeks if necessary as you elude to. I want to see him at 100%.

how long is Bosa out for?

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:
I don't know, but many defensive linemen manage to go a whole season or even a whole career without that happening to them, so maybe he should learn how from those guys? Playing smart is key to avoiding injuries.

s**t like that happens all the time...I bet you could ask just about any lineman and they'd say at one point in their football career someone rolled over on their ankle.

We saw Jonah Williams roll up on Tua's ankle in the playoffs last yr...Williams was regarded as one of the "smartest" OT in the draft last yr and started at Bama as a freshman.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
I will say this...a bad high ankle? You ain't walking on it. There was no way I could put weight on that thing for about a week even with a boot and he walked off. Even after the doctor had me sleeping in the thing to make sure the tendons stayed in that exact position. If we see any picks of him with no boot? It's not bad.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
I will say this...a bad high ankle? You ain't walking on it. There was no way I could put weight on that thing for about a week even with a boot and he walked off. Even after the doctor had me sleeping in the thing to make sure the tendons stayed in that exact position. If we see any picks of him with no boot? It's not bad.

#49ers DE Nick Bosa (ankle sprain) has been doing some work on the sidelines the past couple of days. Shanahan said Bosa is out of his walking boot and making daily progress toward getting back to full strength.

— Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner) August 14, 2019

More than likely not a straight up high ankle sprain then.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
More than likely not a straight up high ankle sprain then.

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Like every other sprain there are grades of severity. If it involves structures of the high ankle...it is quite literally a high ankle sprain. There is no debating that. No credible doctor would ever dance around the topic like John Lynch did. Lynch did his PR thing, which is his job. He knows "high ankle sprain" freaks people out.

If what you're trying to say is that it's not the worst possible grade for a high ankle sprain...then yes, that is right. If it was the worst case sprain he would be out for the year.

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
what can you do about a guy falling on your leg when youre engaged with a blocker?

Nothing. That's the s**t happens part of the game. The part you will never be able to control. The only way to avoid those is not play. I'm sure the league will try and pass some kind of rule to make that illegal too. You know, 15 yards for illegal falling. Player is ejected from the game for not being more careful where he falls.

Originally posted by okdkid:
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Like every other sprain there are grades of severity. If it involves structures of the high ankle...it is quite literally a high ankle sprain. There is no debating that. No credible doctor would ever dance around the topic like John Lynch did. Lynch did his PR thing, which is his job. He knows "high ankle sprain" freaks people out.

No one stated it was a straight up high ankle sprain...I understand there are grades to a sprain.

IMO you won't be doing stuff on the sidelines/shedding your boot "a couple days ago" a week after getting injured with (any grade) high ankle sprain. My PT wife (been dong it for 10 yrs) said you would be in a boot for 2+ weeks if you had any high ankle sprain.

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
Niners Nation had an over and under on whether Bosa plays 12.5 games this season. Yes- 56% No- 44%
I'm taking the under as I don't think he plays 10 games this season.
What do you think?

under.....lock city

What if Nick Bosa is injury prone but has excellent healing genes?

Torn ACL and playing as a true freshman at OSU a few months later.
Took his time coming back from the oblique injury but we know why
A hamstring injury which apparently should've landed him on the PUP and he's back and ready for training camp
A serious high ankle injury in the manner which ended the season of a bigger Shon Coleman and there's a chance he's ready to play week 1.

Amazing!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by okdkid:
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Like every other sprain there are grades of severity. If it involves structures of the high ankle...it is quite literally a high ankle sprain. There is no debating that. No credible doctor would ever dance around the topic like John Lynch did. Lynch did his PR thing, which is his job. He knows "high ankle sprain" freaks people out.

No one stated it was a straight up high ankle sprain...I understand there are grades to a sprain.

IMO you won't be doing stuff on the sidelines/shedding your boot "a couple days ago" a week after getting injured with (any grade) high ankle sprain. My PT wife (been dong it for 10 yrs) said you would be in a boot for 2+ weeks if you had any high ankle sprain.

"components of a high ankle sprain" is literally a high ankle sprain. He just put his PR spin on it.

Originally posted by genus49:
What if Nick Bosa is injury prone but has excellent healing genes?

Torn ACL and playing as a true freshman at OSU a few months later.
Took his time coming back from the oblique injury but we know why
A hamstring injury which apparently should've landed him on the PUP and he's back and ready for training camp
A serious high ankle injury in the manner which ended the season of a bigger Shon Coleman and there's a chance he's ready to play week 1.

Amazing!

He's basically Deadpool then lol

Originally posted by okdkid:
"components of a high ankle sprain" is literally a high ankle sprain. He just put his PR spin on it.

and yet he's already shed his walking boot a couple days ago according to Kyle, after a week of getting this injury.

it wasn't a high ankle sprain if that's the case.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

and yet he's already shed his walking boot a couple days ago according to Kyle, after a week of getting this injury.

it wasn't a high ankle sprain if that's the case.

...that's not how sprains are diagnosed

Originally posted by okdkid:
...that's not how sprains are diagnosed

Oh but you said there's zero chance he's 100% because it was a high ankle sprain. Disregarding the fluidity of injuries and case by case scenarios. I got a PT telling me if it's a high ankle sprain (any grade) they're in a walking boot for 2+ weeks.

No one diagnosed it as a high ankle sprain and the fact that he isn't wearing a boot a week after his injury (less based on walk Kyle stated) backs that claim up.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Come back to me when a 300lb lineman falls on your ankle, this isn't Lynch, or Bosa's fault, he isn't injury prone, he had 1 injury in college, 1 in HS, it's a freak accident, just like Shon Coleman's injury, another 300lb lineman falls on his ankle, and bam he's done for the season, you try walking on that ankle after a 300lb'er falls on it. And WTF is with this snowflake crap comment?

Being a running back it is safe to say that last years NFL #1 draft choice Saquon Barkley took a lot more hits in his college career when he came into the league. He had played 38 games in college and touched the ball 773 times. Even with that work load he started 16 games for the G-men and had 360 touches and was rookie of the year. That is tough young man .

In contrast our precious little Snowflake played 29 games and had 77 total tackles in 3 years in college and won't even be on the field for opening day for the team. Don't question my knowledge of toughness.