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Originally posted by MK_Ultra:

Always good to look ahead, but looking ahead 5 years I fear that Quinton Williams will be a perennial all-pro and Bosa will be fragile. ... I hope that I'm wrong.

Who?

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by MK_Ultra:

Always good to look ahead, but looking ahead 5 years I fear that Quinton Williams will be a perennial all-pro and Bosa will be fragile. ... I hope that I'm wrong.

Who?

Don't worry MK it doesn't matter how you spell it when your point is right.

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:
The CBA will expire two years before Bosa's rookie contract expires. Lockout, salary cap freeze in exchange for eliminating two preseason games? Anything can happen and I'm not losing sleep over it.

Man, you don't know how long cap hell can last. I'm certainly glad we have Praag now to help with that, so for the most part, we'll avoid the worst of it. But it's got to be faced sooner or later, as the team gets better. And it will, I have confidence in that. I mean as a rookie owner, Jed was able to get the team to a brief super bowl run and then made some newbie mistakes with his HC and GM.

I'm not the most positive about Jed, but he's done at least as much as some owners have in having a super bowl appearance. I think his hiring of Shanahan and Lynch was a good decision (maybe not made by him but by his mom, but that's another thread). I think this team with ShanaLynch has a bright future and a date with an imminent salary cap hell, and all I"m saying is look and see how the Pats dealt with it and lets replicate that.

Most of our cap hell during the '90s period you're stressing over was caused by dead money. We were light years ahead (behind?) every other team in the league with some ridiculous % of our cap going to players no longer on the team (or injured, but that was much smaller).

Unfortunately, I wouldn't have a clue where to look to back up my memory.

If we look to have a looming problem after a new CBA is in effect, and if we start getting stuck with large chunks of dead money, I'll join you in stressin'. Not before.

I'm more stressed about the early 2000's under Donahue and Erickson. Obviously the biggest reason we were in Salary Cap Hell in that era was the poor player evaluations and poor coaching. So I'll agree to that - if anybody is going to argue that point, that a big factor of our salary cap hell in the decade of the 2000's is bad coaching and bad drafting. Having said that, I think the current coaching staff is loads better at player evaluations than previous organizations, including the HarBaalke era. When you get an undrafted QB like Mullen's and he performs like a mid to high round pick - that tells me they need to take advantage of that aspect of their coaching.

One way of taking advantage of that ability to properly evaluate their players, the draft, and free agency as a whole is to project about a year or two in advance and begin to design the contracts to cleave to that projection, but having built into that plan some flexibility should the projections not be accurate. Once the new CBA is locked in place, after I'm sure some back and forth between the Owners and the NFLPA - they need to jump on signing their foundation players to as long a contract as the new CBA allows and that the players are willing to sign up for. I'm hoping Jimmy and Bosa, if they are indeed the players that we think they are, should be signed to long term contracts and at the same time have the depth behind them should something happen to them.

I think planning single year by single year, isn't taking advantage of how Kyle's talent in player evaluations (at least on the offensive side) has been pretty accurate. Specially if you can project two or more years in advance.

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by MK_Ultra:

Always good to look ahead, but looking ahead 5 years I fear that Quinton Williams will be a perennial all-pro and Bosa will be fragile. ... I hope that I'm wrong.

Who?

Quinnen Dial

Originally posted by KamLeon:

Don't worry MK it doesn't matter how you spell it when your point is right.

There's a draft thread about Q, might as well go discuss him there

The smile before he destroys you

Originally posted by KamLeon:

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by MK_Ultra:

Always good to look ahead, but looking ahead 5 years I fear that Quinton Williams will be a perennial all-pro and Bosa will be fragile. ... I hope that I'm wrong.

Who?

Don't worry MK it doesn't matter how you spell it when your point is right.

Incorrect. His post was not a statement of fact but purely of opinion and therefore neither right nor wrong. I did hope that after the draft posters could move on but apparently not.

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by MK_Ultra:

Always good to look ahead, but looking ahead 5 years I fear that Quinton Williams will be a perennial all-pro and Bosa will be fragile. ... I hope that I'm wrong.

Who?

Even if Quinton.


When you can't even spell a guy's name right its a good clue that you don't know them from Adam and are just being negative just to drive an agenda.



I'm as big a fan of QW as there is but acting like there is some sort of huge dropoff with Bosa is pretty ridiculous. They were the two elite prospects in this draft class. Hard to complain about getting either one.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by MK_Ultra:
Always good to look ahead, but looking ahead 5 years I fear that Quinton Williams will be a perennial all-pro and Bosa will be fragile. ... I hope that I'm wrong.

Who?

Even if Quinton.

When you can't even spell a guy's name right its a good clue that you don't know them from Adam and are just being negative just to drive an agenda.

I'm as big a fan of QW as there is but acting like there is some sort of huge dropoff with Bosa is pretty ridiculous. They were the two elite prospects in this draft class. Hard to complain about getting either one.

Agreed Phoenix, I'm a huge QW fan, his piece of NFL Live got me, but I agree, no big drop off between Bosa to QW or QW to Bosa.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by MK_Ultra:

Always good to look ahead, but looking ahead 5 years I fear that Quinton Williams will be a perennial all-pro and Bosa will be fragile. ... I hope that I'm wrong.

Who?

Even if Quinton.

When you can't even spell a guy's name right its a good clue that you don't know them from Adam and are just being negative just to drive an agenda.

I'm as big a fan of QW as there is but acting like there is some sort of huge dropoff with Bosa is pretty ridiculous. They were the two elite prospects in this draft class. Hard to complain about getting either one.

Agreed Phoenix, I'm a huge QW fan, his piece of NFL Live got me, but I agree, no big drop off between Bosa to QW or QW to Bosa.

I still think QW is the better player. But Bosa was the correct pick. The two can both be true.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I still think QW is the better player. But Bosa was the correct pick. The two can both be true.

Agreed. The position premium and our roster need made Bosa the easy pick even if he isn't clearly better than QW.

Pro Bowl edge don't hit FA, Pro Bowl DT do and we are overloaded at DT and needed help at edge.

It's a gloomy and rainy Monday here, so just want to say we got Nick bosa . There feeling much better already

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by MK_Ultra:

Always good to look ahead, but looking ahead 5 years I fear that Quinton Williams will be a perennial all-pro and Bosa will be fragile. ... I hope that I'm wrong.

Who?

Even if Quinton.


When you can't even spell a guy's name right its a good clue that you don't know them from Adam and are just being negative just to drive an agenda.



I'm as big a fan of QW as there is but acting like there is some sort of huge dropoff with Bosa is pretty ridiculous. They were the two elite prospects in this draft class. Hard to complain about getting either one.

I'm as big a fan of Miles Sanders because we need offens score make us better much for sure. Remembered? I dont want draft to Foster because I knew that he was trouble. I was right. I wanted draft to T.J WATT than Foster. oh well..

I think, Q.W is compared to Suh. Donald is very good level than Suh and Q.W.

Originally posted by BuZzB05:

I'm as big a fan of Miles Sanders because we need offens score make us better much for sure. Remembered? I dont want draft to Foster because I knew that he was trouble. I was right. I wanted draft to T.J WATT than Foster. oh well..

I think, Q.W is compared to Suh. Donald is very good level than Suh and Q.W.

Buzz, how many sacks do you think Nick bosa will have this season?

Originally posted by njninersfan420:
It's a gloomy and rainy Monday here, so just want to say we got Nick bosa . There feeling much better already