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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
No way Lynch would let Gould walk, people need to stop being so negative.

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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
No way Lynch would let Gould walk, people need to stop being so negative.

You wouldn't think so but if Gould really wanted to go back home to Chicago, you gotta admit ShanaLynch are the type to let him go. They still can and this could just be his and their public-image theme to ensure fans knew RG wanted to test the market and we exhausted all avenues to keep him. Notice how just after RG goes public, the FO follows with a MM pitch.

[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 18, 2019 at 4:39 PM ]
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
No way Lynch would let Gould walk, people need to stop being so negative.

its not being negative. They've been known to "show class" and being "player friendly", so franchise tagging a player against his wishes is out of character for them.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm sure we'll need a kicker as well.

Not so fast, 49ers will tag Gould according to PFT if no deal reached.

In nominum pater, filius, santu...amen
Alright peeps...put in your targets and off season plans. I see some shooting down added talent ideas so let's see what your plans are. No bashing, please.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Alright peeps...put in your targets and off season plans. I see some shooting down added talent ideas so let's see what your plans are. No bashing, please.


Free Agency:

Earl Thomas - go in hard and fast. Don't try to cheap out and try to get a "team-friendly" deal. It's not going to work. Probably need a Nate Clements type of contract to get him to sign.

CJ Mosley - need a linebacker. It's okay if he resigns with the Ravens. But we should target if he's available.

Dante Fowler / Shaquil Barrett / Ansah - Need a guy to play LEO. Self-explanatory. Regardless of how you feel about these guys, they need someone to man the position. Memes aside, we can't have Marsh and Thomas taking snaps here anymore

Draft:

Round 1:

1) Quinnen Williams - would love to have Bosa drop here, but looking at it realistically, its not going to happen. Pray that the Jags trade up with us for Haskins. Otherwise if we are stuck here, then take the best available. If I'm John Lynch, I do not want to reach here for Need. Because doing something like that could potentially cost me my job. At the end of the day, we need blue chip talent and this is a safe pick. We would have one of the best d-lines at creating interior pressure like what the Rams are doing.

Round 2:

2) Dalton Risner / Garrett Bradbury - They impressed me a lot in the Senior Bowl. Take one of these guys if they are available. Risner is self-explanatory because of Staley's age. He could kick into guard for now. Bradbury because I am still not sold on Richburg. His play needs to improve. I understand he was injured, but I don't like taking chances with a franchise QB.

Round 3:

3) Keelan Doss - He comes from a small school in our own backyard. I like him. Great hands. Good route running. Will probably drop to the 3rd because of lack of competition. I think he will be underrated and swept up by the Packers or something. I hope that whatever we do, that Shanahan takes a big bodied wide receiver and stops getting small guys because our red zone issues will continue to be a big problem going forward unless something is addressed. Maybe that means getting another big Tight End with good route running to take the pressure off of Kittle.
Every time draft comes up i think of AZ, not us. Sitting atop the heap, they badly need rush up the gut. Q is their best bet. But that means passing on Bosa and giving him to theiir #1 competition, SF. Also they need so many slots, they have to be looking at someone to throw them a life raft...better known as a six pack. I bet they get a 6 pak offer they suck that up like a Hoover vacuum.

Problem is with he #1 pick, if they pass on Bosa, they probably will have a fan mutiny, calling for the heads of HC, OC, GM, DC, and owner. Yes they are in the cat birds seat, but it is not as easy as some might think.
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Alright peeps...put in your targets and off season plans. I see some shooting down added talent ideas so let's see what your plans are. No bashing, please.


Free Agency:

Earl Thomas - go in hard and fast. Don't try to cheap out and try to get a "team-friendly" deal. It's not going to work. Probably need a Nate Clements type of contract to get him to sign.

CJ Mosley - need a linebacker. It's okay if he resigns with the Ravens. But we should target if he's available.

Dante Fowler / Shaquil Barrett / Ansah - Need a guy to play LEO. Self-explanatory. Regardless of how you feel about these guys, they need someone to man the position. Memes aside, we can't have Marsh and Thomas taking snaps here anymore

Draft:

Round 1:

1) Quinnen Williams - would love to have Bosa drop here, but looking at it realistically, its not going to happen. Pray that the Jags trade up with us for Haskins. Otherwise if we are stuck here, then take the best available. If I'm John Lynch, I do not want to reach here for Need. Because doing something like that could potentially cost me my job. At the end of the day, we need blue chip talent and this is a safe pick. We would have one of the best d-lines at creating interior pressure like what the Rams are doing.

Round 2:

2) Dalton Risner / Garrett Bradbury - They impressed me a lot in the Senior Bowl. Take one of these guys if they are available. Risner is self-explanatory because of Staley's age. He could kick into guard for now. Bradbury because I am still not sold on Richburg. His play needs to improve. I understand he was injured, but I don't like taking chances with a franchise QB.

Round 3:

3) Keelan Doss - He comes from a small school in our own backyard. I like him. Great hands. Good route running. Will probably drop to the 3rd because of lack of competition. I think he will be underrated and swept up by the Packers or something. I hope that whatever we do, that Shanahan takes a big bodied wide receiver and stops getting small guys because our red zone issues will continue to be a big problem going forward unless something is addressed. Maybe that means getting another big Tight End with good route running to take the pressure off of Kittle.

There we go!

So your base/starting lineup would look like this:

Offensive Personnel:
QB: Jimmy Garoppolo
RB: Jerick McKinnon
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
TE: George Kittle
XWR: Dante Pettis
SWR: Richie James
ZWR: [Keelan Doss]
LT: Joe Staley
LG: Laken Tomlinson
C: Weston Richburg
RG: [Dalton Risner/Garrett Bradbury]
RT: Mike McGlinchey

Defensive Personnel:
BE: Arik Armstead
1T: [Quinnen Williams]
3T: DeForest Buckner
LEO: [Ezekiel Ansah/Dante Fowler/Shaquil Barrett]
SAM: Mark Nzeocha
MIKE: Fred Warner
WILL: [C.J. Mosley]
RCB: Ahkello Witherspoon
SCB: K'Wuan Williams
LCB: Richard Sherman
FS: [Earl Thomas]
SS: Jaquiski Tartt
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
There we go!

So your base/starting lineup would look like this:

Offensive Personnel:
QB: Jimmy Garoppolo
RB: Jerick McKinnon
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
TE: George Kittle
XWR: Dante Pettis
SWR: Richie James
ZWR: [Keelan Doss]
LT: Joe Staley
LG: Laken Tomlinson
C: Weston Richburg
RG: [Dalton Risner/Garrett Bradbury]
RT: Mike McGlinchey

Defensive Personnel:
BE: Arik Armstead
1T: [Quinnen Williams]
3T: DeForest Buckner
LEO: [Ezekiel Ansah/Dante Fowler/Shaquil Barrett]
SAM: Mark Nzeocha
MIKE: Fred Warner
WILL: [C.J. Mosley]
RCB: Ahkello Witherspoon
SCB: K'Wuan Williams
LCB: Richard Sherman
FS: [Earl Thomas]
SS: Jaquiski Tartt

thanks for putting that together.

Ideally, I'd want to move Buckner to Big End. And have Armstead traded out of here. Because despite what Saleh says or thinks, I still think Buckner could excel there as well.

BE: DeForest Buckner
1T: DJ Jones
3T: [Quinnen Williams]
LEO: [Ezekiel Ansah/Dante Fowler/Shaquil Barrett]

But since Saleh is stubborn and won't move Buckner out of the 3T spot, then this probably won't work unless he's open to new ideas.
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
thanks for putting that together.

Ideally, I'd want to move Buckner to Big End. And have Armstead traded out of here. Because despite what Saleh says or thinks, I still think Buckner could excel there as well.

BE: DeForest Buckner
1T: DJ Jones
3T: [Quinnen Williams]
LEO: [Ezekiel Ansah/Dante Fowler/Shaquil Barrett]

But since Saleh is stubborn and won't move Buckner out of the 3T spot, then this probably won't work unless he's open to new ideas.

Keep in mind too, keeping Buckner at 3T is a money-move. If you put him out to edge, he's going to cost significantly more. That's why they are probably in a mad scramble to pay him now. He only played about 100 snaps on the edge last year.

But yeah...as for what's best for the whole defense, I agree.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
thanks for putting that together.

Ideally, I'd want to move Buckner to Big End. And have Armstead traded out of here. Because despite what Saleh says or thinks, I still think Buckner could excel there as well.

BE: DeForest Buckner
1T: DJ Jones
3T: [Quinnen Williams]
LEO: [Ezekiel Ansah/Dante Fowler/Shaquil Barrett]

But since Saleh is stubborn and won't move Buckner out of the 3T spot, then this probably won't work unless he's open to new ideas.

Keep in mind too, keeping Buckner at 3T is a money-move. If you put him out to edge, he's going to cost significantly more. That's why they are probably in a mad scramble to pay him now. He only played about 100 snaps on the edge last year.

But yeah...as for what's best for the whole defense, I agree.

Totally disagree that they are keeping him at 3T as a money saving move. They are going to do what's best for the team and keeping Buckner at 3T is where he's best at and what's best for the team.
I say we go get AB. Give them a 3rd this year and conditional 2nd or 3rd next year. That way, if he's nuts and a huge problem, we cut him, don't carry much dead money and we lose a 3rd round pick. It turns out, we're sitting great.

I'd be ok with pursuing ET but maybe it's just me, but I'm not sold on him for big money. He's had 2 injury years and we've had enough of that around here. Plus, maybe it's naivete, but I still am pulling for AC.

We need to find a replacement/competition for Tartt. Dude is always in the trainers room. If Amos hits the market(I doubt it, but hey, it's still possible with CHI salary cap problems) I say we pick him up in a heartbeat.

I'd also go for LaMarcus Joyner should he hit FA. LA has about 32 mil in cap room and 4 big FA's. Suh, Joyner, Saffold, Fowler. Suh's and Joyner's contracts from last year alone would be 25 mil. One of those 4 won't get re-signed. I don't know if LA is going to sign Joyner over Fowler since Fowler is younger and whatever guy they commit to, long-term really better be worth it because that player will be in the last couple years of his contract when they need to re-sign Goff to a mega deal so they better be able to help them compete for a SB for years.

I don't think LA will franchise tag him. But maybe they will.

I say we go get Anthony Barr to pair with Fred Warner. I don't think MINN will be able to keep him. They only have about 5 mil in cap space, are losing Sheldon Richardson, their starting C, Keaton, their K, Dan Bailey and Latavius Murray.

Barr can be what we've thought/hoped Malcolm Smith would be. We can still keep Smith at SAM since he played there when Foster was still with us or cut him. I don't care.

After that, draft Bosa or Josh Allen with the #2 and call it a day.

We can then try and pick up O-line help throughout the rest of the draft.

This way, we shore up all our major needs and look forward to a year with a healthy Jimmy and Jet and some pass rush.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
thanks for putting that together.

Ideally, I'd want to move Buckner to Big End. And have Armstead traded out of here. Because despite what Saleh says or thinks, I still think Buckner could excel there as well.

BE: DeForest Buckner
1T: DJ Jones
3T: [Quinnen Williams]
LEO: [Ezekiel Ansah/Dante Fowler/Shaquil Barrett]

But since Saleh is stubborn and won't move Buckner out of the 3T spot, then this probably won't work unless he's open to new ideas.

Keep in mind too, keeping Buckner at 3T is a money-move. If you put him out to edge, he's going to cost significantly more. That's why they are probably in a mad scramble to pay him now. He only played about 100 snaps on the edge last year.

But yeah...as for what's best for the whole defense, I agree.

Totally disagree that they are keeping him at 3T as a money saving move. They are going to do what's best for the team and keeping Buckner at 3T is where he's best at and what's best for the team.

K.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
I say we go get AB. Give them a 3rd this year and conditional 2nd or 3rd next year. That way, if he's nuts and a huge problem, we cut him, don't carry much dead money and we lose a 3rd round pick. It turns out, we're sitting great.

I'd be ok with pursuing ET but maybe it's just me, but I'm not sold on him for big money. He's had 2 injury years and we've had enough of that around here. Plus, maybe it's naivete, but I still am pulling for AC.

We need to find a replacement/competition for Tartt. Dude is always in the trainers room. If Amos hits the market(I doubt it, but hey, it's still possible with CHI salary cap problems) I say we pick him up in a heartbeat.

I'd also go for LaMarcus Joyner should he hit FA. LA has about 32 mil in cap room and 4 big FA's. Suh, Joyner, Saffold, Fowler. Suh's and Joyner's contracts from last year alone would be 25 mil. One of those 4 won't get re-signed. I don't know if LA is going to sign Joyner over Fowler since Fowler is younger and whatever guy they commit to, long-term really better be worth it because that player will be in the last couple years of his contract when they need to re-sign Goff to a mega deal so they better be able to help them compete for a SB for years.

I don't think LA will franchise tag him. But maybe they will.

I say we go get Anthony Barr to pair with Fred Warner. I don't think MINN will be able to keep him. They only have about 5 mil in cap space, are losing Sheldon Richardson, their starting C, Keaton, their K, Dan Bailey and Latavius Murray.

Barr can be what we've thought/hoped Malcolm Smith would be. We can still keep Smith at SAM since he played there when Foster was still with us or cut him. I don't care.

After that, draft Bosa or Josh Allen with the #2 and call it a day.

We can then try and pick up O-line help throughout the rest of the draft.

This way, we shore up all our major needs and look forward to a year with a healthy Jimmy and Jet and some pass rush.

Well done JD! Love the plan.

I hear you about ET3/AC too...still hopeful there, that he'll regain form.

Barr is a good choice and probably adds some untapped ER too.

That'd be a nice LB unit of Allen - Warner - Barr!

Funny you mentioned OL...got 3 of my picks going to OL (one an ACL though).

Really nice plan.
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