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Originally posted by gored49:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by pillageDatazz:

Deebo was playing out of position?

-David L the 49er Dick Jockey

So weird people hating Lombardi so much people make it part of their online persona. Aren't you a 49ers dick jockey too? If not, why did you spend the effort to setup a profile on a 49ers fan site to talk about the 49ers?!

Or maybe you are a bot to pump up drama writers…

lol okay. Explain to me how a guy given the label of "wide back" due to versatility was playing out of position his last season here.

You call it weird for people to hate on Lombardi; and then end your post calling me a bot to pump up drama writers…not weird at all
Originally posted by captveg:
If nothing else the positives in the locker room with the vets are a good thing.

yeah, as long as Deebo knows and is content with his role, the locker room vibes will be strong.
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by captveg:
If nothing else the positives in the locker room with the vets are a good thing.

yeah, as long as Deebo knows and is content with his role, the locker room vibes will be strong.

What is his role?
Originally posted by glorydayz:
What is his role?

not a guy who can demand passes, and someone who will probably be used less than hes used to. like a WR3/4 role with some return duties etc
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
What is his role?

not a guy who can demand passes, and someone who will probably be used less than hes used to. like a WR3/4 role with some return duties etc

I see him as a 2 at best on this roster, and he will be the go to guy as in focal point of the offense.

This is his role, he free's things up for everyone else. Defenses have to pay attention to him and can't just sit on CMC or Evans. It will even be more difficult for defenses once Kittle returns.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
I see him as a 2 at best on this roster, and he will be the go to guy as in focal point of the offense.

This is his role, he free's things up for everyone else. Defenses have to pay attention to him and can't just sit on CMC or Evans. It will even be more difficult for defenses once Kittle returns.

I think this pass offense is built on explosive plays, and Purdys strengths are layering the ball and anticipation. Deebo is mostly a LoS screen/endaround/give the ball in space kinda guy. We had BA and Pearsall for chunk crisp route plays. I dont even know who is the best route runner rn in this WR room. Evans and Drob ?

Idk, making him focal point of offense on short stuff seems very short-sighted. As someone who can take a screen and endaround ? Sure. Hes not a tackling breaking machine there as he once used to be, but Niners literally dont have anyone with YAC aside from Stribling. Speaking of Stribling, he is also not a route runner specialist and actually closer to Deebo in terms of YAC, acceleration and athleticism than guys like BA or Pearsall.
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
I see him as a 2 at best on this roster, and he will be the go to guy as in focal point of the offense.

This is his role, he free's things up for everyone else. Defenses have to pay attention to him and can't just sit on CMC or Evans. It will even be more difficult for defenses once Kittle returns.

I think this pass offense is built on explosive plays, and Purdys strengths are layering the ball and anticipation. Deebo is mostly a LoS screen/endaround/give the ball in space kinda guy. We had BA and Pearsall for chunk crisp route plays. I dont even know who is the best route runner rn in this WR room. Evans and Drob ?

Idk, making him focal point of offense on short stuff seems very short-sighted. As someone who can take a screen and endaround ? Sure. Hes not a tackling breaking machine there as he once used to be, but Niners literally dont have anyone with YAC aside from Stribling. Speaking of Stribling, he is also not a route runner specialist and actually closer to Deebo in terms of YAC, acceleration and athleticism than guys like BA or Pearsall.

I think we are saying the same thing. Deebo will be lining up all over the field, motioning and all of that. All of this takes the defenses eyes off of the other guys, as they worry about jet sweeps, end arounds, and quick screens from Deebo. Than Deebo starts running those digs and crossing routes. He is a handful simply because of his skill set.
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
What is his role?

not a guy who can demand passes, and someone who will probably be used less than hes used to. like a WR3/4 role with some return duties etc

You nailed it!
Originally posted by 49ers808:
lol okay. Explain to me how a guy given the label of "wide back" due to versatility was playing out of position his last season here.

You call it weird for people to hate on Lombardi; and then end your post calling me a bot to pump up drama writers…not weird at all

I'm not defending Lombardi here but you do know there are different types of WR that demand different skill set?
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
lol okay. Explain to me how a guy given the label of "wide back" due to versatility was playing out of position his last season here.

You call it weird for people to hate on Lombardi; and then end your post calling me a bot to pump up drama writers…not weird at all

I'm not defending Lombardi here but you do know there are different types of WR that demand different skill set?

lol yes I know that. And I'm sure you know that the 49ers expect all their WRs to know the X, Y, and Z. Pretty sure that's the expectation of most teams WRs; they certainly don't just learn one spot.

When it comes to Deebo; enlighten me on what his position was? Since Lombardi says he was playing out of position. So was he a WR playing out of position when he lined up in the backfield as a RB? Was he a RB playing out of position when he lined up at the Z as a WR?
^ What David L is doing is picking and choosing when to say he played out of position because he obviously didn't have a good year when BA went down and Deebo had to play more X.

The problem with that is that Deebo also lined up at X in his best season in 2021; but you won't see Lombardi mention that. He also lined up at the Z; his primary WR spot in 2024; along with snaps at X, Y, and in the backfield. The stuff he's been doing prior to that season. Convenient excuse for the rough season. That's Lombardi in a nutshell though.

Grant would just say he sucked and provide nothing else.

Hence the divide in our forum. The optimistic guys lean toward Lombardi and pessimist lean more toward Cohn.

I'm right in the middle of those two idiots and call a spade a spade; and yes, can still be a fan of this team in doing so.

Long story short
David L is the 49ers dick jockey
and
Grant Cohn is the 49ers dick head

since saying the first one made me a bot according to one poster
Back to Deebo. Man I hope we get the old contract season Deebo back Him coming to camp in shape is certainly a good start to that.

And Lynch saying that he is committed to returning kicks is freaking awesome to hear. Losing Moore after he provided the best and most consistent return man since Ginn was awful; but Deebo helps cure that sting at least on Kickoffs. The punt returner I'm thinking will either end up being Cowing or Watkins; interested in that one. The last time Cowing did it makes me never want to see him doing it again to be honest lol
This dude is washed. Was gonna write a detailed write up but I'll just leave it at that
Originally posted by 49ers808:
^ What David L is doing is picking and choosing when to say he played out of position because he obviously didn't have a good year when BA went down and Deebo had to play more X.

The problem with that is that Deebo also lined up at X in his best season in 2021; but you won't see Lombardi mention that. He also lined up at the Z; his primary WR spot in 2024; along with snaps at X, Y, and in the backfield. The stuff he's been doing prior to that season. Convenient excuse for the rough season. That's Lombardi in a nutshell though.

Grant would just say he sucked and provide nothing else.

Hence the divide in our forum. The optimistic guys lean toward Lombardi and pessimist lean more toward Cohn.

I'm right in the middle of those two idiots and call a spade a spade; and yes, can still be a fan of this team in doing so.

Long story short
David L is the 49ers dick jockey
and
Grant Cohn is the 49ers dick head

since saying the first one made me a bot according to one poster

The thing with Lombardi is he's not just an unabashed homer, but he's also a complete a*****e. His arrogance is off the charts for a dude who ultimately just regurgitates stats (that he likes).
Originally posted by glorydayz:
I think we are saying the same thing. Deebo will be lining up all over the field, motioning and all of that. All of this takes the defenses eyes off of the other guys, as they worry about jet sweeps, end arounds, and quick screens from Deebo. Than Deebo starts running those digs and crossing routes. He is a handful simply because of his skill set.

I think we have different definitions of what "focal point" means. I'm thinking of Deebos role as extended Sky Moores role on the team last year.
Kick returns, endarounds, some bubble screens here and there, just with a good amount more touches than Moore.

When people talk about focal points on offense, you think about a dominant WR or RB or TE. CMC is a focal point of the offense, and was still a focal point of passing offense last year because of factors surrounding WRs (Jennings injury, Pearsall injury, etc). Deebo was a focal point in 2021.
[ Edited by the_dynasty on Aug 1, 2026 at 6:12 PM ]
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