Im convinced CJ should be replaced by Mullens. Our OL is not built to protect slow QB.
James is money. Pettis is progressing. Boldin is quetionable, but decent. JW will get on 53 with Bieda injury.
Not liking so many injuries, but thats just football. This allows others to shine. I am very impressed with late rounder GEMS being drafted by this staff!!! IE: JT.. Raw but a beast and better replace Armstead.
As this one shows, more purge needs done. Lose Armsread, Ward, etc..take cap hit now.
We pulled out win which shows how deep we are in talent. Impressive indeed, as team chemisry is apparently here!!
Go Niners..GO!!
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Aug 10, 2018 at 1:01 PM
- 49r494eva
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Aug 10, 2018 at 1:03 PM
- Buchy
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Just on the Oline, I did see some tweets from an analyst earlier that Dallas were not running a vanilla defense, they were using a lot of stunts etc on the line.
We went vanilla, which Kyle seems to prefer in pre-season but Dallas was not.
We went vanilla, which Kyle seems to prefer in pre-season but Dallas was not.
[ Edited by Buchy on Aug 10, 2018 at 1:04 PM ]
Aug 10, 2018 at 1:03 PM
- Marvin49
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Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
1) QB's - I was really disappointed in the way that Beathard played. I had hoped to see more improvement than he showed last night. Throws a nice deep ball but he still seems to process things a bit too slowly which leads to him holding the ball longer than he should. Only the first game so I'm not going to make any rash judgements but I think he got outplayed by Mullens last night.
2) Receivers - Boldin was working hard to impress but you have to figure he is going to get caught up in a numbers game. James looked really good and fluid and can also return kicks which means Boldin probably doesn't make the team. Ross Dwelley had a couple of nice plays. Would like to see more of him in the coming games.
3) OL - McGlinchey had sort of a mixed bag of a night. Some good, some bad. Generally speaking I think the arrow is up on him though. The line play in general didn't seem all that great. They really need to figure out that right guard spot so their starters can begin to work on their cohesiveness and timing as a unit. The longer that situation goes on the longer it is going to take to get the running game untracked
4) RB - I am beginning to think the problem with Joe Williams is that, when all is said and done, he needs to be a guy who gets 25 careers a game. He'll pick up a few yards here and there and then he'll bust a long one that will make all of the highlight reels. But that probably isn't going to happen for him in this offense with the guys he has in front of him. He didn't embarrass himself last night but he didn't really stand out either. Breida's injury will give him a few more chances to shine though. I guess we'll see what he does with them.
5) DL - Julian Taylor and Sheldon Day. Nuff said. Armstead and Mitchell better not be taking anything for granted..
6) LB- I was looking for Fred Warner but didn't really see him anywhere. Did he play last night?
7) Was looking for Moore and McFadden but it seems they didn't get in until late. Moore had nice coverage on one deep pass along the sideline. McFadden looks like he has really good technique. He turns his hips really well and gets into position quickly. He always seemed to be around the guy he was supposed to be covering. Hope to see more of him against better competition. One of the guys ahead of him, Powell, looked like he was getting abused most of the night. McFadden is my sleeper pick to make the team at the moment from the defensive side. James would be the pick on offense.
1) Warner did not play.
2) Yeah, McFadden and Moore came in at the same time and flashed on a few plays. McFaddens issue is speed and I didn't see anyone run by him.
any highlights anywhere of foster?
Reuben Foster?
https://twitter.com/i/status/1027747424595570689
https://twitter.com/i/status/1027746912563150848
no the other foster..
You don't need too...um...
...Come on man.......
no....
Ok, yeah. Good Point.
Aug 10, 2018 at 1:06 PM
- Marvin49
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Originally posted by Buchy:
Just on the Oline, I did see some tweets from an analyst earlier that Dallas were not running a vanilla defense, they were using a lot of stunts etc on the line.
I did see a few...in particular the play that Garoppolo completed witha guy in his face...DeMarcus Lawrence ran a stunt that Person didn't slide over to and McGlinchey could't get through him....
...or at least that how I remember it. I'm not looking at it right now.
Aug 10, 2018 at 1:06 PM
- Sanfran_chrisco
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Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
1) QB's - I was really disappointed in the way that Beathard played. I had hoped to see more improvement than he showed last night. Throws a nice deep ball but he still seems to process things a bit too slowly which leads to him holding the ball longer than he should. Only the first game so I'm not going to make any rash judgements but I think he got outplayed by Mullens last night.
2) Receivers - Boldin was working hard to impress but you have to figure he is going to get caught up in a numbers game. James looked really good and fluid and can also return kicks which means Boldin probably doesn't make the team. Ross Dwelley had a couple of nice plays. Would like to see more of him in the coming games.
3) OL - McGlinchey had sort of a mixed bag of a night. Some good, some bad. Generally speaking I think the arrow is up on him though. The line play in general didn't seem all that great. They really need to figure out that right guard spot so their starters can begin to work on their cohesiveness and timing as a unit. The longer that situation goes on the longer it is going to take to get the running game untracked
4) RB - I am beginning to think the problem with Joe Williams is that, when all is said and done, he needs to be a guy who gets 25 careers a game. He'll pick up a few yards here and there and then he'll bust a long one that will make all of the highlight reels. But that probably isn't going to happen for him in this offense with the guys he has in front of him. He didn't embarrass himself last night but he didn't really stand out either. Breida's injury will give him a few more chances to shine though. I guess we'll see what he does with them.
5) DL - Julian Taylor and Sheldon Day. Nuff said. Armstead and Mitchell better not be taking anything for granted..
6) LB- I was looking for Fred Warner but didn't really see him anywhere. Did he play last night?
7) Was looking for Moore and McFadden but it seems they didn't get in until late. Moore had nice coverage on one deep pass along the sideline. McFadden looks like he has really good technique. He turns his hips really well and gets into position quickly. He always seemed to be around the guy he was supposed to be covering. Hope to see more of him against better competition. One of the guys ahead of him, Powell, looked like he was getting abused most of the night. McFadden is my sleeper pick to make the team at the moment from the defensive side. James would be the pick on offense.
1) Warner did not play.
2) Yeah, McFadden and Moore came in at the same time and flashed on a few plays. McFaddens issue is speed and I didn't see anyone run by him.
any highlights anywhere of foster?
Reuben Foster?
https://twitter.com/i/status/1027747424595570689
https://twitter.com/i/status/1027746912563150848
no the other foster..
You don't need too...um...
...Come on man.......
no....
Ok, yeah. Good Point.
twitter is blocked at work. rip
Aug 10, 2018 at 1:10 PM
- thl408
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Originally posted by Buchy:Check out the Jet run when he ran to the right side of the OL. Right before the snap, there was a coordinated gap switch between Demarcus Lawrence and the WILL. It threw off McG and Shelton and led to a blown up play. That was kinda fancy for a preseason game.
Just on the Oline, I did see some tweets from an analyst earlier that Dallas were not running a vanilla defense, they were using a lot of stunts etc on the line.
We went vanilla, which Kyle seems to prefer in pre-season but Dallas was not.
Aug 10, 2018 at 1:14 PM
- Joecool
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Pretty much nailed it. Although I don't agree on his take on Mostert. One big run where the entire right side was cleared out and all he had to do was outrun a LB to the edge. Nothing special after that.
https://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/49ers-24-cowboys-21-the-good-and-not-so-good/
https://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/49ers-24-cowboys-21-the-good-and-not-so-good/
Aug 10, 2018 at 1:14 PM
- LasVegasWally
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Originally posted by NCommand:
QB: C.J. BeatHard vs. himself (growth) - proper pre-snap reads but still slow and indecisive in his delivery
RB: Joe Williams vs. Raheem Mostert - I still think all 4 make it but still, it can come down to the wire here
TE: Garrett Celek vs. Cole Hikutini vs. Ross Dwelley - safe to say Dirtytini and Dwelley looked good; with Kittle shelved, many more opportunity
XWR: Marquise Goodwin vs. Dante Pettis - Hands a tad suspect last night but very good getting open
SWR: Trent Taylor vs. Richie James - James is a lock and may need to be active on game days
ZWR: Pierre Garcon vs. Kendrick Bourne - Consistent
LOT: Garry Gilliam vs. Darrell Williams Jr. - Gilliam gave himself a concussion but I liked what I saw from Williams
RG: Joshua Garnett vs. Mike Person vs. Jonathan Cooper vs. Erik Magnuson - we're screwed here no matter how you slice it
LDE: Arik Armstead vs. Jullian Taylor vs. Ronald Blair - AA is now a rotational guy...at best. Blair is a capable of generating pressure too
NT: Earl Mitchell vs. D.J. Jones - Jones looks better to me; ready to move on from Mitchell
RDT: DeForest Buckner vs. Sheldon Day (for more playing time) - We can not keep Day off the field. Period. At NT or 3T.
LEO: Solomon Thomas vs. Cassius Marsh (for more playing time) - nothing new to see here
SAM: Eli Harold vs. Jeremiah Attaochu vs. Pita Taumoepenu vs. Dekoda Watson - Watson and Pita might be serviceable over Harold. Attaochu seemed absent last night
MIKE/WILL: Malcolm Smith vs. Fred Warner vs. Korey Toomer vs. Elijah Lee - Lee looked like the best out there and that may not be a good thing
RCB: Jimmie Ward vs. Emmanuel Moseley vs. Tarvarus McFadden - we badly need to give all reps to McFadden and Moore to expedite their growth over Ward, Mabin and Powell
SCB: K'Waun Williams vs. D.J. Reed - terrific depth here
LCB: Richard Sherman vs. Tarvarious Moore - need mas now
SS: Chanceller James vs. Marcell Harris - James is a keeper
P: Bradley Pinion vs. Jeff Locke - Pinion is a lock
KOR/PR: Dante Pettis vs. Jerick McKinnon vs. Trent Taylor vs. D.J. Reed - we basically gave Boldin his run so not much to see here but he has no chance of making it so we need to see the others
GR: Raheem Mostert vs. Tarvarious Moore vs. Chanceller James vs. Aaron Burbridge vs. Joe Williams - Mostert might be a lock here and Moore confirmed he's a gunner and Williams is trying out here as well
We need to beef up practices. We just took a punch in the mouth in physicality. These 1.5 hour light practices aren't preventing hammy and other issues so we might need to get more game-ready and intensity things. Texans will be even more physical.
VERY good post!
Aug 10, 2018 at 1:16 PM
- GoreGoreGore
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Originally posted by 49r494eva:
Im convinced CJ should be replaced by Mullens. Our OL is not built to protect slow QB.
James is money. Pettis is progressing. Boldin is quetionable, but decent. JW will get on 53 with Bieda injury.
Not liking so many injuries, but thats just football. This allows others to shine. I am very impressed with late rounder GEMS being drafted by this staff!!! IE: JT.. Raw but a beast and better replace Armstead.
As this one shows, more purge needs done. Lose Armsread, Ward, etc..take cap hit now.
We pulled out win which shows how deep we are in talent. Impressive indeed, as team chemisry is apparently here!!
Go Niners..GO!!
ummm CJ isn't slow lol. one of the most mobile QBs in the NFL. he's not Watson or Wilson, but he's not slow.
Aug 10, 2018 at 1:16 PM
- LasVegasWally
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STILL my biggest concern.
The OL was a "C"
I think McG will improve from each preseason game.
RG still an issue [to say the least] If we can solve this quickly, I see the OL gelling a lot faster.
The OL was a "C"
I think McG will improve from each preseason game.
RG still an issue [to say the least] If we can solve this quickly, I see the OL gelling a lot faster.
Aug 10, 2018 at 1:20 PM
- Ensatsu
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Originally posted by TheGore49er:ummm CJ isn't slow lol. one of the most mobile QBs in the NFL. he's not Watson or Wilson, but he's not slow.
He probably meant to say slow in his reads and progressions.
I agree with that.
Aug 10, 2018 at 1:37 PM
- NCommand
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Good job rookie Tarvarius Moore. Patient at the LOS..moved his feet.. squeezed receiver to the sideline.. controlled (got in phase) receiver before turning his head..kept speed while turning head (unlike Ward) would've taken a perfectly placed ball to complete this. @fourth_nine pic.twitter.com/FPxBuMuGB5
— CrockTIME (@eric_crocker) August 10, 2018
Aug 10, 2018 at 1:41 PM
- Jack49ers84
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QBs outside of Mullens did not look good. JG still can't accurately throw deep to save his life in an actual game. Wildly inaccurate on almost all of his passes. Even the ones he completed were thrown behind the WR in most cases. No excuse for that, he should be better than that whether it's preseason or not.
WRs looked good for the most part. It's a good battle for that #6 spot. Pettis looked a bit lost at times, but he definitely has a lot of ability. I would have liked to see him in the PR game more.
RBs all looked pretty mediocre and no one stood out this game to me.
On defense, I liked the pressure that Buckner and Thomas were getting while they were on the field together. Thomas's injury initially looked a lot worse, so I'm glad he is ok.
Overall, it's just one preseason game. I'm not going to read too much into it.
WRs looked good for the most part. It's a good battle for that #6 spot. Pettis looked a bit lost at times, but he definitely has a lot of ability. I would have liked to see him in the PR game more.
RBs all looked pretty mediocre and no one stood out this game to me.
On defense, I liked the pressure that Buckner and Thomas were getting while they were on the field together. Thomas's injury initially looked a lot worse, so I'm glad he is ok.
Overall, it's just one preseason game. I'm not going to read too much into it.
[ Edited by Jack49ers84 on Aug 10, 2018 at 1:48 PM ]
Aug 10, 2018 at 1:41 PM
- NCommand
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Poor kid.
#49ers RB Joe Williams explains the emotional reaction to his TD last night https://t.co/kM3KLI4S3I
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Aug 10, 2018 at 1:45 PM
- GolittaCamper
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Yeah, I was little freaked out, then I remembered it was the first preseason game...so, IDK, as long as none of the injuries are serious, its all cool.