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49ers DL coach Jeff Zgonina Thread
Jun 6, 2018 at 5:01 PM
- StubbyNBY
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Jury is still out on him as coach. I think Chris Kiffin will help him and the team this year. That was a very solid under the radar hire
Jun 6, 2018 at 11:30 PM
- SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by StubbyNBY:Jury is still out on him as coach. I think Chris Kiffin will help him and the team this year. That was a very solid under the radar hire
Seems like kiffin was good to round out zgonina and help with pass rush.
Happy with our staff.
Jun 6, 2018 at 11:38 PM
- English
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scary looking dude. dont remember him as a player tbph.
Jun 6, 2018 at 11:40 PM
- SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by English:scary looking dude. dont remember him as a player tbph.
Solid DT. Known/played with the lambs too in their "glory" years lolz.
[ Edited by SmokeCrabtrees on Jun 6, 2018 at 11:40 PM ]
Jun 6, 2018 at 11:51 PM
- PacTiger
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2016 were the awful days of dial, Purcell & Armstead holding down the line.
Lol, that was bad. Let's add O'Neil's ridiculous schemes and we have a bottom 5 run defense.
Lol, that was bad. Let's add O'Neil's ridiculous schemes and we have a bottom 5 run defense.
Jun 7, 2018 at 10:22 AM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
Jury is still out on him as coach. I think Chris Kiffin will help him and the team this year. That was a very solid under the radar hire
Seems like kiffin was good to round out zgonina and help with pass rush.
Happy with our staff.
I agree. Zgonina seems to have had a productive career as a DT, but no real playing experinece at LEO, so Kiffen is going to help him with the pass rush schemes. Not that Zgonia doesn't know them, but I think Kiffen will help in the nitpicky details regarding the pass rush vs run stopping. I know the Kiffen/Dungey defense was one of the top run defenses in the league and they did it without size, and more on quickness and athleticism. If Kaneavius Street can come back 100%, he can play pretty much most, if not all the positions on the D Line. He may be a better base LEO than Solomon on first downs.
Jun 7, 2018 at 3:17 PM
- pasodoc9er
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With Z and Kiff, I expect to see those "almost" QB sacks by DeFo become SACKs, and I expect to see Arik busting thru the OL, but this yr, once thru, knowing what to do to get to the QB. With Solomon, kind of the same. We were soooo close last yr with many near misses on sacks. This yr, esp with up coaching Marsh, Day, Pita, et al, and also the 3 guys noted above, if not sacks, we are going to put one bucket load of pressure on QBs...but maintain our good Run stopping play. Somehow, I just see this D take off, and the push from our entire DL is going to be fierce.
With all the investment in DBs, one would think we see INTs go up and pass completions go way down. Looking for lots of 3 and outs on D this yr and TOP to end up with our D playing only 22 mins/game. That would be sweet. With kyle's playcalling and JG behind Center, I could see our having 38 to 40 mins on the field. That would be something. Actually, in Dak/Zeke's first yr, the Cowboys O did average 38 mins/game. So it can be done.
With all the investment in DBs, one would think we see INTs go up and pass completions go way down. Looking for lots of 3 and outs on D this yr and TOP to end up with our D playing only 22 mins/game. That would be sweet. With kyle's playcalling and JG behind Center, I could see our having 38 to 40 mins on the field. That would be something. Actually, in Dak/Zeke's first yr, the Cowboys O did average 38 mins/game. So it can be done.
Jun 7, 2018 at 3:25 PM
- cciowa
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Originally posted by English:
scary looking dude. dont remember him as a player tbph.
Maybe those are the kind of guys that make the best coaches
Jun 7, 2018 at 3:28 PM
- susweel
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meh dude got 3 first round picks on that line and aint done nothing yet.
Jun 7, 2018 at 3:31 PM
- pdizo916
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Originally posted by susweel:
meh dude got 3 first round picks on that line and aint done nothing yet.
To be fair, that's mostly on Baalke and Lynch and their inability to evaluate talent.
Jun 7, 2018 at 4:12 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by pdizo916:To be fair, that's mostly on Baalke and Lynch and their inability to evaluate talent.
Dude is absolute garbage, rebuilding the most talent poor roster in football into a potential playoff team in one year.
Jun 7, 2018 at 4:18 PM
- cciowa
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
To be fair, that's mostly on Baalke and Lynch and their inability to evaluate talent.
Dude is absolute garbage, rebuilding the most talent poor roster in football into a potential playoff team in one year.
so what do you think we are. a playoff team or a brick by brick team still a year away from the playoffs.
Jun 7, 2018 at 4:24 PM
- evil
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Originally posted by susweel:meh dude got 3 first round picks on that line and aint done nothing yet.
Wrong again.
the 2016 defense was far and away the NFL's worst against the run anyway, hemorrhaging 4.6 yards per carry.
Under Zgonina in 2017, the 49ers allowed only 3.6 yards per rush, good for a surge from dead last to No. 6 in the NFL
Jun 7, 2018 at 4:26 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by cciowa:so what do you think we are. a playoff team or a brick by brick team still a year away from the playoffs.
I think they are quite a bit ahead of schedule of the 3-4 year window most had for them just to have a shot at the playoffs.
One year in and we are talking about a team that could reasonably win anywhere from 7 to 10 games.
Go look at the roster at the end of the 2016 season and compare it to the roster today. In a short period of time they got younger, faster, more talented and added a franchise QB. That is a damn good year by any ratings system.
