49ers Secondary

Originally posted by ScoutingBall:
And by JSN on the double move that he should've had a PI on. This dude is garbage.

He was on JSN most of the game.

He had 0 TDs and 80 yards.

No one is going to be able to cover for 7 seconds. Thats why Saleh schemes and uses smoke and mirrors. Jut the way it is

This unit desperately needs help and that is probably an understatement

Lenoir
Stout
Green (back up at best)
MM (back up or SS, not a FS)
Sigle (who knows)

Everyone else (name not shown here) who played this year can go please...

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
This unit desperately needs help and that is probably an understatement

Lenoir
Stout
Green (back up at best)
MM (back up or SS, not a FS)
Sigle (who knows)

Everyone else (name not shown here) who played this year can go please...

Lenoir is SUPER OVERRATED... not sure why he thinks he can cover..

Green and Stout looks like they both have a future... Sigle is already better than Mustaffy and Brownie..

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
This unit desperately needs help and that is probably an understatement

Lenoir
Stout
Green (back up at best)
MM (back up or SS, not a FS)
Sigle (who knows)

Everyone else (name not shown here) who played this year can go please...

Lenoir is SUPER OVERRATED... not sure why he thinks he can cover..

Green and Stout looks like they both have a future... Sigle is already better than Mustaffy and Brownie..

lol… Lenoir with an average pass rush is an elite corner. Even below average. We've had the worst pass rush and he's still played well.

Originally posted by niner4life21:
lol… Lenoir with an average pass rush is an elite corner. Even below average. We've had the worst pass rush and he's still played well.

Yes

Originally posted by 9moon:
Lenoir is SUPER OVERRATED... not sure why he thinks he can cover..

Green and Stout looks like they both have a future... Sigle is already better than Mustaffy and Brownie..

I kinda agree with you on Sigle, maybe next year...

As for DL, he'd cover you like a blanket and then spoon you

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:

Originally posted by 9moon:
Lenoir is SUPER OVERRATED... not sure why he thinks he can cover..

Green and Stout looks like they both have a future... Sigle is already better than Mustaffy and Brownie..

I kinda agree with you on Sigle, maybe next year...

As for DL, he'd cover you like a blanket and then spoon you

Thats an overstatement

I miss some of Sigle's play, even with all the mistakes. Brown is buns.

I like our corners just fine. Our safeties on the other hand seem to lack football IQ. Eventually we will need to find a high motored Free Safety to anchor the secondary. Then MM and Brown can fight for the starting SS job although both of them are highly inconsistent.

Originally posted by bigpete50:
I like our corners just fine. Our safeties on the other hand seem to lack football IQ. Eventually we will need to find a high motored Free Safety to anchor the secondary. Then MM and Brown can fight for the starting SS job although both of them are highly inconsistent.

💯 although I'd rather Sigle and MM fight for it. Brown is a liability

Safeties are bad and aside from Sigle I don't know if they have a legit future.
And Sigle would have to make a leap where he is able to cover well.

People used to rag on Tartt and Ward, but they very rarely missed tackles. Mustapha and Brown can and do miss more tackles in two games than those two did all year.

Corners are overrated. Green was supposed to be THE outside corner but he's nowhere the player Charvarius Ward was. Gets ate on double moves a ton. If every route ran against him was a vertical on the sideline he'd be good tho

Lenoir, super overrated by the fan base in general. He's just an OK at outside corner, really more of a slot corner who may transition to safety at the end of his career. The notion of him being an elite corner is crazy.

Stout, is strictly a slot corner so limited what he can do and while I love the tenacity and tackling, coverage needs improvement. But at least we can hope he will develop into something.

Luter - below replacement level corner.

Historically this regimes best outside corners were established FA corners (Sherman, C Ward).
They are pretty solid at drafting slot guys like Lenoir or Stout.

Please DL, just take the heat (constructive or not) and move on... you may think you're a Hyena, but this old dude could take you on and probably shock your ass if he really wanted to "leap"

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Safeties are bad and aside from Sigle I don't know if they have a legit future.
And Sigle would have to make a leap where he is able to cover well.

People used to rag on Tartt and Ward, but they very rarely missed tackles. Mustapha and Brown can and do miss more tackles in two games than those two did all year.

Corners are overrated. Green was supposed to be THE outside corner but he's nowhere the player Charvarius Ward was. Gets ate on double moves a ton. If every route ran against him was a vertical on the sideline he'd be good tho

Lenoir, super overrated by the fan base in general. He's just an OK at outside corner, really more of a slot corner who may transition to safety at the end of his career. The notion of him being an elite corner is crazy.

Stout, is strictly a slot corner so limited what he can do and while I love the tenacity and tackling, coverage needs improvement. But at least we can hope he will develop into something.

Luter - below replacement level corner.

Historically this regimes best outside corners were established FA corners (Sherman, C Ward).
They are pretty solid at drafting slot guys like Lenoir or Stout.

They haven't invested in either position with draft picks to any real degree. One 2nd in 9 years.