2018 Team Information (Needs)

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Saffold is an interesting option

He's already talking about giving the Rams a hometown discount.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Mark Glowinski's development as a power-blocker in Indy's line underscores the value of coaching. Was never given the fundamental tools to give him play strength to add to his natural agility in Seattle (big shocker there). Now, he's part of one of the league's best guard combos.

— Doug Farrar (@NFL_DougFarrar) January 3, 2019

Colts will emphasize zone blocking in the new offense (implications for Nelson and other good and bad fits)

This was a hot topic because the Colts fans knew they'd be in position to get Quentin Nelson and he 'seemed' like a better fit for power.


When you make OL a priority, this can happen in one year.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Saffold is an interesting option

He's already talking about giving the Rams a hometown discount.

Well screw him

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Yes, went from starter to 4th string in SEA. Does not appear to be a good fit here

Also keep in mind who Seattle's OL coach was. Now look at them.

I got to see a few snaps from the IND/TEN game last week and I felt they ran more power/gap blocking concepts. I know you posted a tweet saying there would be a lot of zone blocking in IND (2018 offseason tweet) but I'm not so sure that's what happened on the field for 2018. All teams mix it up, but if I had to pick, I'd say IND was a predominantly power/gap blocking run team. Anyway, not so sure Glowinski fits as a zone blocker.

Originally posted by NCommand:
This was a hot topic because the Colts fans knew they'd be in position to get Quentin Nelson and he 'seemed' like a better fit for power.

Listening to Ryan Kelly, there's definitely going to be a lot of zone blocking in the Colts' new offensive scheme.

— Stephen Holder (@HolderStephen) April 24, 2018

When you make OL a priority, this can happen in one year.

The #Colts went from 56 sacks (most in NFL in 2017)... to 16 sacks (2nd fewest in 2018).

Also, 4 sacks on 3rd down is the fewest allowed in NFL

2018 NFL Draft... OL Round 1. OL Round 2.

— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) December 17, 2018

Interesting. Every time I see Baldy breaking down Quenton Nelson I see tons of gap/power.

Unfortunately, I think Kyle would use this as an example of why resources don't need to be allocated at the guard spot. Glowinski was literally on the streets without a job after Seattle waived him. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree(Mike Shanny). John Benton is also one of the better coaches on this team. I think Kyle depends on them to be able to coach guys up similar to how INDI did with Glowinski.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Yes, went from starter to 4th string in SEA. Does not appear to be a good fit here

Also keep in mind who Seattle's OL coach was. Now look at them.

They still give up a ton of pressures/sacks. Actually more sacks than SF. But yes, Cable did suck

Originally posted by thl408:
I got to see a few snaps from the IND/TEN game last week and I felt they ran more power/gap blocking concepts. I know you posted a tweet saying there would be a lot of zone blocking in IND (2018 offseason tweet) but I'm not so sure that's what happened on the field for 2018. All teams mix it up, but if I had to pick, I'd say IND was a predominantly power/gap blocking run team. Anyway, not so sure Glowinski fits as a zone blocker.

Yeah, that's what it seems like when I see people breaking down Quenton Nelson. Tons of gap/power stuff.

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2018/11/07/marlon-mack-nyheim-hines-indianapolis-colts/1918307002/
Frank Reich's scheme might be one of the most varied ground games in the NFL. Indianapolis runs both zone and man-blocking concepts, runs that have their roots in both power concepts and the spread, traps between the tackles and jet sweeps to the outside.

So they do a mix of both. Which does Glowinski excel in? idk

Niners need to find a guard in the draft or free agent market. I'm not saying it's our #1 need but the value of protecting the QB and giving him enough time to throw can't be overstated. With Jimmy G coming off an injury ( just like Luck ) it is more important than ever. I don't know how the draft shakes out for guards so they may need to find a guy they think will develop quickly.

Originally posted by thl408:

I got to see a few snaps from the IND/TEN game last week and I felt they ran more power/gap blocking concepts. I know you posted a tweet saying there would be a lot of zone blocking in IND (2018 offseason tweet) but I'm not so sure that's what happened on the field for 2018. All teams mix it up, but if I had to pick, I'd say IND was a predominantly power/gap blocking run team. Anyway, not so sure Glowinski fits as a zone blocker.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Interesting. Every time I see Baldy breaking down Quenton Nelson I see tons of gap/power.

Unfortunately, I think Kyle would use this as an example of why resources don't need to be allocated at the guard spot. Glowinski was literally on the streets without a job after Seattle waived him. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree(Mike Shanny). John Benton is also one of the better coaches on this team. I think Kyle depends on them to be able to coach guys up similar to how INDI did with Glowinski.

I think you'd both right...more elements of ZBS than anything. And with Nelson and Glowinski, I'd run predominant power/gap as well. Let's see what they do in the playoff games.

Tomlinson is more our power G.

Originally posted by thl408:

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2018/11/07/marlon-mack-nyheim-hines-indianapolis-colts/1918307002/
Frank Reich's scheme might be one of the most varied ground games in the NFL. Indianapolis runs both zone and man-blocking concepts, runs that have their roots in both power concepts and the spread, traps between the tackles and jet sweeps to the outside.

So they do a mix of both. Which does Glowinski excel in? idk

Great find. Good question. I'm not sure because the zone up in Seattle, their OL coach blew chunks and their OL was a mess.

Maybe we can spot light a few ZBS snaps from the playoff game?

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Niners need to find a guard in the draft or free agent market. I'm not saying it's our #1 need but the value of protecting the QB and giving him enough time to throw can't be overstated. With Jimmy G coming off an injury ( just like Luck ) it is more important than ever. I don't know how the draft shakes out for guards so they may need to find a guy they think will develop quickly.

No question. Ali Marpet would have been a good one but they resigned him. Ballard is a sharp guy. He'll probably resign Glow too.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I think you'd both right...more elements of ZBS than anything. And with Nelson and Glowinski, I'd run predominant power/gap as well. Let's see what they do in the playoff games.

Tomlinson is more our power G.

Tomlinson can get some push in short yardage situations where as gimpy Richburg and Person get pushed back. I do think that hurt the 2018 49ers in goal to go situations. If a team can put on tape that they can plow ahead for 3 yards, that opens up easy playaction TDs. We saw that so often during the Harbaugh days when defenders sold out to stop Gore, only to have a wide open VD in the back of the endzone. I think getting a strong RG can open up this part of the playbook for Kyle. Not saying go get a road grader RG, but someone stronger than Person.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

I think you'd both right...more elements of ZBS than anything. And with Nelson and Glowinski, I'd run predominant power/gap as well. Let's see what they do in the playoff games.

Tomlinson is more our power G.

Tomlinson can get some push in short yardage situations where as gimpy Richburg and Person get pushed back. I do think that hurt the 2018 49ers in goal to go situations. If a team can put on tape that they can plow ahead for 3 yards, that opens up easy playaction TDs. We saw that so often during the Harbaugh days when defenders sold out to stop Gore, only to have a wide open VD in the back of the endzone. I think getting a strong RG can open up this part of the playbook for Kyle. Not saying go get a road grader RG, but someone stronger than Person.

Excellent points. I haven't dove into the splits but I wonder if we run more power to the left but more zone to the right with Person + MM? I noticed Garnett packed on his usual weight but he's backing up Tomlinson at LG now. Maybe Kyle wants his LG to be more powerful.

I think both ShanaLynch said one of the reasons they resigned Tomlinson was because he was powerful enough to shut down Aaron Donald.