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Dec 12, 2018 at 9:33 AM

Paul_Hofer
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Heroism:
That's something the fans see as a need, not Kyle. I've yet to hear Kyle say he needs a big receiver, and judging by who he's brought in through free agency and the draft over the last two years, I wouldn't hold my breath for one.

The reality is that the traits Kyle wants in his WRs are rarely found in big receivers.

That might explain why they struggle to score TD's in the red zone. Other than Kittle they don't have a big receiver to throw to in the tight spaces of the end zone. Hard to throw the ball up high or do the deep corner fade with all those little guys. Maybe Kyle prefers field goals.

The Niners are next to last in TDs in the red zone. Shanahan's scheme moves the ball between the 20s as well as that of any coach. But will he show he is learning by modifying his scheme to increase the team's chances for TDs in redzone? It could be a canary in a coal mine test for how next season might go for the Niners.

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Dec 12, 2018 at 12:39 PM

#902

NCommand
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This will make you smile even more.

Salary Cap: We're projected to have $65.4M before cuts.

2019 Cap Cuts - Cap Savings:
Arik Armstead $9.05M
Pierre Garcon $6M
Garry Gilliam $5.05M
Cassius Marsh $4.2M
Malcolm Smith $4.05M
Earl Mitchell $3.7M
Brock Coyle $2.5M
Garrett Celek $2.1M
K'Wuan Williams $1.85M
Dekoda Watson $1.5M
C.J. BeatHard $786K
Ronald Blair $720K
Matt Dayes $645K
Trent Taylor $645K
James Onwualu $645K
Godwin Igwebuike $570K
J.P. Flynn $495K
Tarvarus McFadden $13K = +$44.64

2019 Total Cap: $110M

How about Ward?

Why would we cut Blair? He's played well. Also Garcon's 2019 year is an option year, if they decline they only save like $1.2M, Smith's number would be post June 1, meaning we don't get the cap room till June 2nd. Remember those smaller cuts don't count much as the top 51 count, and someone will take their spot making the same amount.

There you are! So I asked that very thing after Lombardi posted this.

I trust your work the most, obviously but letting you know, it's out there.

Pierre Garçon is headed to IR. Have we seen the last of him with the 49ers, at least in the regular season?

If the 49ers part ways with Garçon after June 1, they'll incur $2.4 million in dead money but save $6 million in cap space. It'll all depend on WR acquisitions before then
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) December 11, 2018

David...can I ask where you got that figure. The filter over at Over The Cap says $7.2M in dead money & $1.2 in savings.
— NCommand (@NCommand55) December 11, 2018

Thats if he was pre-June 1st cut, if he is cut with the post-June 1st designation its the savings that Lombardi laid out
— Kevin A Molina (@KevinAMolina) December 11, 2018

Mitchell: pre 6/1 - 2.95 mil
post 6/1 - 3.7 mil

Smith: pre 6/1 - 1.25 mil
post 6/1 - 4.05 mil
— Kevin A Molina (@KevinAMolina) December 11, 2018

PS: This is just a grand list of potential cuts and a max cap space. Like you said, you still need to fill a 90 man roster, then down to your final 51/53.

Blair, I love. He's cheap and good. But when you consider potential draft and free agent signings and Street and Taylor coming into the fold, someone is out...quite a few actually. We're crazy deep on Big Ends and interior DT's.

[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 12, 2018 at 3:00 PM ]

Dec 12, 2018 at 4:36 PM

#903

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I'm watching this game out of pure boredom:

It would be cool to have a "big" DL like GB. Could that work in today's pass happy NFL?

The Goat Reggie White LE - 6'5 300
Santana Dotson 3T - 6'5 290
Gilbert Brown NT - 6'3 350
Sean Jones RE - 6'7 280

Dec 12, 2018 at 4:39 PM

#904

Heroism
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Originally posted by FL9er:
I'm watching this game out of pure boredom:

It would be cool to have a "big" DL like GB. Could that work in today's pass happy NFL?

The Goat Reggie White LE - 6'5 300
Santana Dotson 3T - 6'5 290
Gilbert Brown NT - 6'3 350
Sean Jones RE - 6'7 280

That's a f**king big DL.

Baalke and Saleh are like

[ Edited by Heroism on Dec 12, 2018 at 4:44 PM ]

Dec 12, 2018 at 4:52 PM

#905

Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Why would we cut Blair? He's played well. Also Garcon's 2019 year is an option year, if they decline they only save like $1.2M, Smith's number would be post June 1, meaning we don't get the cap room till June 2nd. Remember those smaller cuts don't count much as the top 51 count, and someone will take their spot making the same amount.

If they cut Garçon, Smith, Mitchell, Gilliam, and Coyle, what would their 2019 cap space be? Do you think they bring back AA at that price tag or can they negotiate something else?

[ Edited by Hoovtrain on Dec 12, 2018 at 4:53 PM ]

Dec 12, 2018 at 5:28 PM

#906

NCommand
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Why would we cut Blair? He's played well. Also Garcon's 2019 year is an option year, if they decline they only save like $1.2M, Smith's number would be post June 1, meaning we don't get the cap room till June 2nd. Remember those smaller cuts don't count much as the top 51 count, and someone will take their spot making the same amount.

If they cut Garçon, Smith, Mitchell, Gilliam, and Coyle, what would their 2019 cap space be? Do you think they bring back AA at that price tag or can they negotiate something else?

Just those 5?

Salary Cap: We're projected to have $65.4M before cuts.

2019 Cap Cuts - Cap Savings:
Arik Armstead $9.05M
Pierre Garcon $6M
Garry Gilliam $5.05M
Cassius Marsh $4.2M
Malcolm Smith $4.05M
Earl Mitchell $3.7M
Brock Coyle $2.5M
Garrett Celek $2.1M
K'Wuan Williams $1.85M
Dekoda Watson $1.5M
C.J. BeatHard $786K
Ronald Blair $720K
Matt Dayes $645K
Trent Taylor $645K
James Onwualu $645K
Godwin Igwebuike $570K
J.P. Flynn $495K
Tarvarus McFadden $13K

2019 Total Cap: $81.9M or $86.7M

It depends on Garcon's deal and if we'll get back the $1.2M or $6M in cap space because of the opt-out in his contract.

Good question on AA. I'd love AB's thoughts on it too.

[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 12, 2018 at 5:29 PM ]

Dec 12, 2018 at 5:30 PM

#907

NCommand
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by FL9er:
I'm watching this game out of pure boredom:

It would be cool to have a "big" DL like GB. Could that work in today's pass happy NFL?

The Goat Reggie White LE - 6'5 300
Santana Dotson 3T - 6'5 290
Gilbert Brown NT - 6'3 350
Sean Jones RE - 6'7 280

That's a f**king big DL.

Baalke and Saleh are like

And Brown, like our own Ted Washington was really pushing 380-400.

Saleh be like, "We'll get there!"

Dec 12, 2018 at 5:33 PM

#908

NCommand
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Originally posted by FL9er:
Could that work in today's pass happy NFL?

Hell no! Look at our "big personnel" today. Top 5 run defense yet 27th in points. You gotta have a pass rush, disguise blitzers and have sound coverage these days.

It can if all the fatties can pass rush well like in Jacksonville last year.

[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 12, 2018 at 5:34 PM ]

Dec 12, 2018 at 5:35 PM

#909

Heroism
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Reggie White would definitely work. Dude was the freakiest edge rusher of all time. 300 lbs but he could win with speed from the edge. Not to mention his signature hump move. I don't know if we'll ever see an athlete like that again.

[ Edited by Heroism on Dec 12, 2018 at 5:39 PM ]

Dec 12, 2018 at 5:47 PM

#910

NCommand
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Reggie White would definitely work. Dude was the freakiest edge rusher of all time. 300 lbs but he could win with speed from the edge. Not to mention his signature hump move. I don't know if we'll ever see an athlete like that again.

He was insane. Just an absolute FREAK. Calais Campbell isn't too bad either. I bet Buckner could be pretty good too.

Dec 12, 2018 at 5:53 PM

#911

Hoovtrain
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Why would we cut Blair? He's played well. Also Garcon's 2019 year is an option year, if they decline they only save like $1.2M, Smith's number would be post June 1, meaning we don't get the cap room till June 2nd. Remember those smaller cuts don't count much as the top 51 count, and someone will take their spot making the same amount.

If they cut Garçon, Smith, Mitchell, Gilliam, and Coyle, what would their 2019 cap space be? Do you think they bring back AA at that price tag or can they negotiate something else?

Just those 5?

Salary Cap: We're projected to have $65.4M before cuts.

2019 Cap Cuts - Cap Savings:
Arik Armstead $9.05M
Pierre Garcon $6M
Garry Gilliam $5.05M
Cassius Marsh $4.2M
Malcolm Smith $4.05M
Earl Mitchell $3.7M
Brock Coyle $2.5M
Garrett Celek $2.1M
K'Wuan Williams $1.85M
Dekoda Watson $1.5M
C.J. BeatHard $786K
Ronald Blair $720K
Matt Dayes $645K
Trent Taylor $645K
James Onwualu $645K
Godwin Igwebuike $570K
J.P. Flynn $495K
Tarvarus McFadden $13K

2019 Total Cap: $81.9M or $86.7M

It depends on Garcon's deal and if we'll get back the $1.2M or $6M in cap space because of the opt-out in his contract.

Good question on AA. I'd love AB's thoughts on it too.

Yeah That's why I wanted clarification ...AB is saying it's like 1.2 if Garçon is cut. Thanks for doing it factoring in 6 and 1.2

Dec 12, 2018 at 5:54 PM

#912

NCommand
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Yeah That's why I wanted clarification ...AB is saying it's like 1.2 if Garçon is cut. Thanks for doing it factoring in 6 and 1.2

Of course. AB is the master though. He's been busy though lately. He usually lives in here.

Dec 12, 2018 at 5:56 PM

#913

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Fingers crossed!

Dec 12, 2018 at 5:59 PM

#914

Heroism
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Fingers crossed!

Dec 12, 2018 at 6:08 PM

#915

NCommand
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Fingers crossed!

.

Speaking of...the Minister of Defense. He prayed and prayed on his decision on where to go in free agency. He went to Green Bay (over us and others) and I was dying. THAT'S who God told you to go to?

OK God...lesson learned.

How about a small reward for a few of us Faithfuls?