Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Injury prone.....25% injury rate is not good....

lol. Check out the 22 yard catch by Celek. We were talking about the Drive concept last week and on that play JG worked the Drive perfectly vs Fire zone.

....I'm so glad that "gimmicky" NE offense didn't break him

Originally posted by 9erReign:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I agree, not even an issue. I think a 5 year $120 million dollars would be fair, 24 mil a year. That would set him up till he was 31 or 32, which is still young enough to give him another 4 to 5 year contract depending of course he's the 49ers next real franchise QB.

I'm with you on this Kolohe and think that's a good offer for exactly the reason you stated. I would do it now. Each game that goes by the price tag going go up because like most of you one game was enough for me to see this is our guy and he can be truly special. If we don't sign him or at least try too and wait till the offseason then we may have to match or come close too whatever Cousins gets ironically. Bottom line for me though is to avoid the tag and lock this man up!

Why would Jimmy sign that below market deal? That thing better be like $80-100M guaranteed. He is much better taking the $24M guaranteed franchise tag. Then signing a huge multi-year contract the following year. A la Cousins.

Getting a guy to sign a below market contract when his value is low is not as smart as people around here think it is. As soon as they out play that contract they are going to want to sign a new one that compensates them fairly. And when you jump the gun like that you risk giving that long term deal to someone who doesn't play well enough to deserve it.

Bottom line, when players are paid what they are actually worth, everyone wins. You only have one side or the other losing when a player is either over or under paid.

So tag him, and give him enough time to show what he's really worth. Then give him a contract that reflects what he's earned on the field.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by NCommand:

LOL. On performance alone, with no TD's (I don't count the INT fully on him), I'd say he had a solid B-day but A- overall given the circumstances esp. leading the team to a winning FG from his own 7 while eating up the whole clock.

A+++++ on the future of him becoming our FQB.

I don't count the INT on him at all. How can anyone put any blame on him for that? I know the announcer was claiming the ball should've been thrown more in front of him but that's BS. The catch WAS made, he just let the ball be taken out of his hands which is inexcusable.

Him blaming Jimmy for not throwing TDs is fine...but he conveniently decided to forget what happened in all of our trips to the redzone.

1st attempt

1st and 9 - Pass to Celek knocked away by a good play by Fuller could make the claim the throw was late or could make the claim Celek should've attacked the ball.
2nd and 9 - Nice run by Hyde to the 2 called back due to holding
2nd and 19 - shovel pass to Hyde for small gain
3rd and 15 - drop by Hyde but would've had penalty for illegal man downfield
FG

2nd attempt

1st and 10 at the Bears 16 - 3 yard run by Hyde
2nd and 7 - Murphy can't come down with a would be first down conversion in bounds
3rd and 7 - Hyde tackled short
FG

3rd attempt

1st and 10 at the Bears 16 - Pass to Kittle for 9 yards
2nd and 1 - Hyde tackled short
2 false starts later
3rd and 11 - nearly Dwigh Clark 2.0 catch
FG

4th attempt
1st and 10 at the Bears 20 - run for 4 yards
2nd and 6 - the BS non catch by Murphy(should've secured it and never even made it a question) but should've been a first down anyways
3rd and 6 - short pass to Bourne who stepped out
FG

5th attempt
played for game winning FG and killing clock.

So basically dude is talking out of his ass. Has to take into consideration what happened in the game and who Jimmy is working with. Watch the game...not the box scores.

Grant talking out of his ass? No way

Originally posted by socalniner:

Originally posted by thl408:
JG has played in four regular season games total in his career. Here's what he's done on the last drive of those games.
ARI - FG to take the lead
MIA - got injured
SEA - TD throw on last play of the game
CHI - FG to take the lead

Haha nice observation! I love this dude

Small sample size and all that, but it's good to see that when it's crunch time he doesn't fold under pressure. The TD throw versus SEA is garbage time so that's not really relevant, but the ARI game and the CHI game his team was trailing and needed a drive to take the lead and he came through.

Originally posted by Antix:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

His debut as the starter was great. Just need to fix the red zone issues now.

Yeah RZ was def an issue, but at least all the FGs were chipshots. We need a bigger target down there but you could see that he hadnt repped RZ much.

They haven't been in the red zone this many times in any game this year, so hopefully the experience alone will help in that regard.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by socalniner:

Originally posted by thl408:

JG has played in four regular season games total in his career. Here's what he's done on the last drive of those games.
ARI - FG to take the lead
MIA - got injured
SEA - TD throw on last play of the game
CHI - FG to take the lead

Haha nice observation! I love this dude

Small sample size and all that, but it's good to see that when it's crunch time he doesn't fold under pressure. The TD throw versus SEA is garbage time so that's not really relevant, but the ARI game and the CHI game his team was trailing and needed a drive to take the lead and he came through.

It just looks different than what we've seen since the turn of the millennium.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Grant talking out of his ass? No way

Assigning grades for a sport he hasn't shown an understanding of...

Originally posted by Niners816:

The notion of Grant giving grades for a sport he knows dick about makes me literally laugh out loud.

I knew you'd love that one!

Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:

Originally posted by 9erReign:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

I agree, not even an issue. I think a 5 year $120 million dollars would be fair, 24 mil a year. That would set him up till he was 31 or 32, which is still young enough to give him another 4 to 5 year contract depending of course he's the 49ers next real franchise QB.

I'm with you on this Kolohe and think that's a good offer for exactly the reason you stated. I would do it now. Each game that goes by the price tag going go up because like most of you one game was enough for me to see this is our guy and he can be truly special. If we don't sign him or at least try too and wait till the offseason then we may have to match or come close too whatever Cousins gets ironically. Bottom line for me though is to avoid the tag and lock this man up!

Why would Jimmy sign that below market deal? That thing better be like $80-100M guaranteed. He is much better taking the $24M guaranteed franchise tag. Then signing a huge multi-year contract the following year. A la Cousins.

Getting a guy to sign a below market contract when his value is low is not as smart as people around here think it is. As soon as they out play that contract they are going to want to sign a new one that compensates them fairly. And when you jump the gun like that you risk giving that long term deal to someone who doesn't play well enough to deserve it.

Bottom line, when players are paid what they are actually worth, everyone wins. You only have one side or the other losing when a player is either over or under paid.

So tag him, and give him enough time to show what he's really worth. Then give him a contract that reflects what he's earned on the field.

Not sure how 5 yr $120 million is a below market contract? That would put him 4th overall in per yr money.

I agree a tag is most likely but a contract like that is huge money, nothing low about it at all

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Niners816:

The notion of Grant giving grades for a sport he knows dick about makes me literally laugh out loud.

I knew you'd love that one!

If he wants to give "s**tty writer" grades, then I'm all ears. His shown time and time again that's his wheel house.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by socalniner:

Originally posted by thl408:
JG has played in four regular season games total in his career. Here's what he's done on the last drive of those games.
ARI - FG to take the lead
MIA - got injured
SEA - TD throw on last play of the game
CHI - FG to take the lead

Haha nice observation! I love this dude

Small sample size and all that, but it's good to see that when it's crunch time he doesn't fold under pressure. The TD throw versus SEA is garbage time so that's not really relevant, but the ARI game and the CHI game his team was trailing and needed a drive to take the lead and he came through.

take the lead or take home the W

Watching Baldinger's breakdowns on Twitter, I'm super impressed with Jimmy's accuracy under pressure. At least 3-4 times he delivered a supremely accurate pass with a defender milliseconds from nailing him.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

.@49ers @JimmyG_10 showing early returns on the trade. Already throwing with precision and anticipation. The ONLY way. I bet the 🐐🐐 is proud #BaldyBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/UIUCBOlUGC

— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) December 4, 2017

Badly has some great breakdowns of Jimmy G on his Twitter feed.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:

Originally posted by 9erReign:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

I agree, not even an issue. I think a 5 year $120 million dollars would be fair, 24 mil a year. That would set him up till he was 31 or 32, which is still young enough to give him another 4 to 5 year contract depending of course he's the 49ers next real franchise QB.

I'm with you on this Kolohe and think that's a good offer for exactly the reason you stated. I would do it now. Each game that goes by the price tag going go up because like most of you one game was enough for me to see this is our guy and he can be truly special. If we don't sign him or at least try too and wait till the offseason then we may have to match or come close too whatever Cousins gets ironically. Bottom line for me though is to avoid the tag and lock this man up!

Why would Jimmy sign that below market deal? That thing better be like $80-100M guaranteed. He is much better taking the $24M guaranteed franchise tag. Then signing a huge multi-year contract the following year. A la Cousins.

Getting a guy to sign a below market contract when his value is low is not as smart as people around here think it is. As soon as they out play that contract they are going to want to sign a new one that compensates them fairly. And when you jump the gun like that you risk giving that long term deal to someone who doesn't play well enough to deserve it.

Bottom line, when players are paid what they are actually worth, everyone wins. You only have one side or the other losing when a player is either over or under paid.

So tag him, and give him enough time to show what he's really worth. Then give him a contract that reflects what he's earned on the field.

Not sure how 5 yr $120 million is a below market contract? That would put him 4th overall in per yr money.

I agree a tag is most likely but a contract like that is huge money, nothing low about it at all

Most players don't like playing under the tag and what Cousins is doing is unprecedented and the exception not the rule. The tag is in our back pocket and I'm not opposed to using it and actually think that's what happens. But I think the stated offer is a good starting point, by no means below market value and I don't know how it could be seen as such especially for a QB with as little game experience as Jimmy G has.