Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

I think we keep JG for 2021 if we dont receive a high first round pick in this year's draft eg patriots' #15
Next year we deal him for about the same price or even more if he has a good 2021 season
and if he brings is us to the SB again ? Wow good problem to have

We'll win the SB with Jimmy, trade him for a ransom then win it again with the 2nd year qb with a much more explosive offense tho.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Internally there was a lot of sentiment Jimmy G cost the Niners that Super Bowl.

Now set to move on.

— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) March 26, 2021

That would be quite hypocrite to be honest. He had a bad fourth quarter but between the refs and Shanahan deciding to stop the running game for whatever reasons, at some point you have to look in the mirror also.

Originally posted by pdc20:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Internally there was a lot of sentiment Jimmy G cost the Niners that Super Bowl.

Now set to move on.

— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) March 26, 2021

That would be quite hypocrite to be honest. He had a bad fourth quarter but between the refs and Shanahan deciding to stop the running game for whatever reasons, at some point you have to look in the mirror also.

You must have forgotten the game losing red zone third down failures in the first and third quarter. In both cases WRs were wide open past the sticks and Jimmy didn't see them, throwing to a covered guy and failing to convert. On one of those, he started the play STARRING at the guy who would be wide open a second later (Kittle), and threw to a RB short of the sticks who was covered — indicated he decided where he was throwing pre-snap regardless of post-snap coverage.

Those two crucial third downs cost us 8 points in a game where we were up by ten midway through the third. Turn that 10 point lead into an 18 point lead with 7 minutes left and I promise you things are different.

But they weren't. Because Jimmy doesn't get the ball to the open guy. Not unless his first read or his predetermined throw is the open guy.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by CardinalGold:
You know what's a foolish risk? Trading three first round picks for the chance to take the third QB off the board.

But hey as a fan I hope it works out.

??

Who gives a s**t so long as he produces.

Drafting the best prospect in the draft is foolish if he ultimately ends up a bust.

How confident are you that whoever we pick at 3 will be great? I'm not. I prefer having more picks since the draft is a crapshoot. Why invest so much draft capital to take a chance on one guy?

They have to get aggressive and go with whoever they feel is the guy.
They already tried the play it safe and fell short... its time!!

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
You must have forgotten the game losing red zone third down failures in the first and third quarter. In both cases WRs were wide open past the sticks and Jimmy didn't see them, throwing to a covered guy and failing to convert. On one of those, he started the play STARRING at the guy who would be wide open a second later (Kittle), and threw to a RB short of the sticks who was covered — indicated he decided where he was throwing pre-snap regardless of post-snap coverage.

Those two crucial third downs cost us 8 points in a game where we were up by ten midway through the third. Turn that 10 point lead into an 18 point lead with 7 minutes left and I promise you things are different.

But they weren't. Because Jimmy doesn't get the ball to the open guy. Not unless his first read or his predetermined throw is the open guy.

This. The refs and play-calling definitely played a role but if you really watch some of those key 3rd down plays closely you'll see that KS called the perfect play and guys were open, Jimmy just didn't hit them.

He rarely goes through his reads and his tendency is to decide before the snap what he wants to do with the ball.

It's unfortunate because he's a tough guy who actually stands tall in the pocket a lot of the time. He just isn't processing in the way you need to.

Originally posted by CardinalGold:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by CardinalGold:
You know what's a foolish risk? Trading three first round picks for the chance to take the third QB off the board.

But hey as a fan I hope it works out.

??

Who gives a s**t so long as he produces.

Drafting the best prospect in the draft is foolish if he ultimately ends up a bust.

How confident are you that whoever we pick at 3 will be great? I'm not. I prefer having more picks since the draft is a crapshoot. Why invest so much draft capital to take a chance on one guy?

Slightly more confident than I would be on a position player. My confidence level is irrelevant. All that matters is production.

I was confident Crabtree was going to be great. I was confident that Kittle would be a marginal player. It's irrelevant. Production is all that matters.

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Kyle Shanahan, after seeing Matt LaFleur and the Packers show the NFL world what a great QB can do in his offense: pic.twitter.com/wrGS2Eb4GW

— Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) March 26, 2021

Yah Packers did good in the Super Bowl this past year.....oh wait.

Only in the Jimmy thread is making the Superbowl, regardless of how, the measuring stick for great quarterback play.

Aaron Rodgers had an exceptional 2020, and it was FAR better than Jimmy's 2019. I dont day the following often because most of the time it isn't true, but it is here....the comparison between the two seasons are NOT EVEN CLOSE.

Originally posted by 49Fever:
I think we keep JG for 2021 if we dont receive a high first round pick in this year's draft eg patriots' #15
Next year we deal him for about the same price or even more if he has a good 2021 season
and if he brings is us to the SB again ? Wow good problem to have

A high first? You must have gotten high first, before you made this post.

Originally posted by pdc20:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Internally there was a lot of sentiment Jimmy G cost the Niners that Super Bowl.

Now set to move on.

— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) March 26, 2021

That would be quite hypocrite to be honest. He had a bad fourth quarter but between the refs and Shanahan deciding to stop the running game for whatever reasons, at some point you have to look in the mirror also.

I dunno, I kinda blame Jimmy and not myself

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
You must have forgotten the game losing red zone third down failures in the first and third quarter. In both cases WRs were wide open past the sticks and Jimmy didn't see them, throwing to a covered guy and failing to convert. On one of those, he started the play STARRING at the guy who would be wide open a second later (Kittle), and threw to a RB short of the sticks who was covered — indicated he decided where he was throwing pre-snap regardless of post-snap coverage.

Those two crucial third downs cost us 8 points in a game where we were up by ten midway through the third. Turn that 10 point lead into an 18 point lead with 7 minutes left and I promise you things are different.

But they weren't. Because Jimmy doesn't get the ball to the open guy. Not unless his first read or his predetermined throw is the open guy.

I have been arguing for years (not just with Jimmy), that some quarterbacks mistakes are NOT the Jay Cutler-esque mistakes where he throws a pick 6 and cost the team the game that way. Some mistakes are made when a defense gives you a drive changing/game changing play and the quarterback goes elsewhere.

Like you illustrated in your post, there were several big misses by Jimmy prior to the 4th quarter that would have been huge plays if he made them. But the fact that Jimmy completed a pass elsewhere makes a lot of people believe a mistake wasn't made.

I dont know how many times I had to read people say "yeah but 18 for 22!!" Some of those 18 completions were mistakes. Mistakes that were reasons we didn't win.

Originally posted by Giedi:
One thing about first round QB's is the bust rate. As much as I think Mac, Trey, or Justin will I think be fantastic QB's for us, there is that chance they end up being another Josh Rosen or Alex Smith. I think with Jimmy being there to start while the rookie QB will learn from the bench, that makes it a higher chance that the rookie will succeed. With his HC as the offensive coordinator, you know the offense he has to learn won't be changing every year like in Alex's tenure with Mike Nolan.

Are you seriously saying that there is a possibility that the QB Kyle picks isn't as good as Mahomes or Rodgers & could actually be a bust???

Theoretically for this draft, the highest rated qb's will be going off the board one & two...Kyle picking 3rd.... hell, better odds playing in Vegas then nailing a Mahomes or Brady or Rodgers...

Once they get the QB they need to move Jimmy. Immediately. Otherwise you could get the Alex- Kap situation. The Wenz- Foles situation. The locker room will rally behind Jimmy he will likely win enough and that leaves you with a QB you traded 3 1sts for who can't step into a leadership role.

You made the move, it's for the long term, live with it.

Originally posted by CardinalGold:
How confident are you that whoever we pick at 3 will be great? I'm not. I prefer having more picks since the draft is a crapshoot. Why invest so much draft capital to take a chance on one guy?

How confident are you that Jimmy can make it through a whole season? That's the elephant in the room. Between that and his contract, they need to get a QB. Lance is 10 years younger and could give them a starter for the next 10-15 years. I don't know who they end up with but it's obvious they want to move off of Jimmy. If they don't trade hm this year then he's gone next year..

If they have a good year in 2021 they wouldn't have a high draft pick to chose a QB next year which isn't predicted to be a strong QB class. They had to try and do something this year or be satisfied with Jimmy.