Where is the Bottom?

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
We're looking very good for 0-16.

Doesn't much lower than that.

Doesnt matter we still end up drafting #2 cuz Cleveland is beyond horrendous.

Sucks we cant even suck at sucking

Originally posted by crabman82:
Still havent bottomed out from the harbaugh fiasco. 5-11 to 2-14 to 0-16. We still getting worse

Worst Oline in football, Dline has multiple street F/A's starting...we have an injury prone FS at LB next to a special teams only player. Our best CB is a penalty machine, our FS the most important role in this new defense is out for the year "again", our RB is dropping passes, fumbling the ball, allowing sacks and our best receiver is hurt. Oh and we're starting a rookie QB in the middle of all of this....it's getting worse is an understatement....

Originally posted by cciowa:
in recent history of the team. we are at the threshold of hell,. it can and probably will get worse. the best this team had to offer was close losses earlier and now this team is what they will be for the rest of the year. coach may be able to keep total hell from coming down on him as the year goes with his nice articulation. same with lynch

it's funny because it's true

Here. The bottom has to be here. We are winless, we look garbage on offense, we are piling up the injuries, the defense is going to s**t and we are regressing (probably because of all those things mentioned before). This has to be the bottom. There is no way we can look worse than we have these past two weeks. We are essentially running back up caliber players out there to compete with starters. Our depth is depleted and we have a lot of holes that need to be filled. Our top two picks from this past draft are hurt and unable to get the development they need. Our rookie QB looks like a 3rd round rookie and is getting crushed Blake Bortles style. This is as low as it gets.

We know what we are now, but the scary part is we could have 4 elite OL on this team and 3 of them would end up on IR.
We get any QB and he'd turn to mush.
No elite skill positions to put the fear into op defenses.
List goes on...

On top of that no discipline.
No nothing.

1-23. That's a sample size that reflects everything this franchise has become. Like it or not.
I don't see a core on this offense to build around to escape this.
Just fractured parts.

Originally posted by luv49rs:

Originally posted by cciowa:
in recent history of the team. we are at the threshold of hell,. it can and probably will get worse. the best this team had to offer was close losses earlier and now this team is what they will be for the rest of the year. coach may be able to keep total hell from coming down on him as the year goes with his nice articulation. same with lynch

it's funny because it's true

you are not being very positive bud. you will quickly become the black sheep of the web zone or to some the b*****d child of sus and cc. something about that sounded a titch queer

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by jreff22:
We're there

People have been saying that for a few years. We won't know until we starting see the team improve.
It looked like the team will finish with a worse record and point differential for the fourth straight year.

0-16 is the bottom....and its what I expect right now

i agree and then i see some posters saying arrow up and i get confused

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by crabman82:

Still havent bottomed out from the harbaugh fiasco. 5-11 to 2-14 to 0-16. We still getting worse

Worst Oline in football, Dline has multiple street F/A's starting...we have an injury prone FS at LB next to a special teams only player. Our best CB is a penalty machine, our FS the most important role in this new defense is out for the year "again", our RB is dropping passes, fumbling the ball, allowing sacks and our best receiver is hurt. Oh and we're starting a rookie QB in the middle of all of this....it's getting worse is an understatement....

Pretty much.

Are we talking the Niners season or Trump's presidency?

Originally posted by genus49:
0-8 isn't pretty but at this point my biggest concern is the injuries. Not much you can do if your team was already struggling for talent and now you're playing backups of backups.

When you were dangerously close to starting a TE at OT you know chit is hitting the fan.

However I saw a post earlier showing the life of Cleveland fans...

9:30am - Lose in London

1pm - Carson Wentz

4pm - Deshaun Watson

8pm - Steelers win

There's what we're going through...and there's the Browns. There is a crazy chance both of our teams finish 0-16 and I think we'd be picking #2 overall. That's how bad the Browns are.

However I think we're heading in the right direction even if the record doesn't reflect it. Have to do a great job in the draft next year and free agency and this team can turn around quickly.

IMO best thing for us is to sign Kirk Cousins or Jimmy Garoppolo in free agency, trade our #1/#2 likely draft pick to a team looking to draft QB for hopefully a mega haul and then go after playmakers or dominating in the trenches players.

Take a look at our draft this year, does that inspire you to think we will draft well ?

Originally posted by JustinNiner:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
This hopeless feeling set in when I watched the Texans-Seahawks game and witnessed the best young QB I've seen in a long time, Watson. He is light years ahead of any QB in his draft class. Did the 49ers invite him in for a look-see?

i was so sure he would be a bust. Kid is the real deal

Please allow me to repeat:
Watson is not Kyle Shanahan's type of QB,
Watson did not meet the Kyle Shanahan QB spec.
Kyle Shanahan would have refused to coach Watson, if Watson happened to be on the team, he will be traded.

We are here exploring new horizons of ugliness, damage is done. There's nothing left to do but ride it out?

The time for doing anything has long past, which was years ago until the talent comes back around.

I guess my suspensions was well worth it. We tried warning, no need to spas out now. That time has past..

Originally posted by GarnerValleyFan:

Originally posted by JustinNiner:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
This hopeless feeling set in when I watched the Texans-Seahawks game and witnessed the best young QB I've seen in a long time, Watson. He is light years ahead of any QB in his draft class. Did the 49ers invite him in for a look-see?

i was so sure he would be a bust. Kid is the real deal

Please allow me to repeat:
Watson is not Kyle Shanahan's type of QB,
Watson did not meet the Kyle Shanahan QB spec.
Kyle Shanahan would have refused to coach Watson, if Watson happened to be on the team, he will be traded.

And yet KS wanted to draft Russel Wilson over Cousins before Seattle nabbed him.

Originally posted by miked1978:

Hate to say it guys but this isn't the bottom. Year 1 of a total rebuild isn't the bottom and if it then that's great. The bottom would be year 3 of a rebuild and we are 0-8 or something like that. Kind of like the Browns are right now.

This is the fourth straight year of getting worse.
I was hoping this team would show some improvement this year but they haven't. I was hoping for a significant improvement in point differential but the team is on pace to do even worse. I was hoping for improvements in the offense and defensive rankings but that looks like it is out the window as well.