**THE OFFICIAL ''REFEREES SCREWED US '' THREAD 2017/18 EDITION

Originally posted by thl408:
SoCold, those look like screen passes in those images you posted but I can't tell. In the KC play, do you think Juice was throwing a block?

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by thl408:
SoCold, those look like screen passes in those images you posted but I can't tell. In the KC play, do you think Juice was throwing a block?

It's a designed route to cut off the defenders path to the ball. Juice just did a horrible job of selling it by running right into the guy and pushing him back a yard. Prob because he's a FB used to blocking. If that's a WR he prob brushes the LB with a shoulder and runs right by him pulling him to the middle of the field.

I think the Refs thought he was blocking because that's what they called. lol

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
i mean.... the way KJ positions himself to brace for the contact with his hands up and his stance looks like he's going for a block. in my opinion. even though I know he wasnt.

It's this route combination here. The LB covering Juice knows Juice isn't going to run a fade to the corner of the endzone so he plays with hard inside leverage. Juice's route just runs him into the defender, because the defender covered Juice well. I agree the way Juice put his arms up made it look like a block and that's probably what drew the flag. But I think refs need to understand what is going on so they don't look at things in a vacuum.

Originally posted by thl408:

The miss FG is funny, but this offensive pass interference is LOoolLlL. It's man coverage and Juice didn't run a pick you dumb ref.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by thl408:
SoCold, those look like screen passes in those images you posted but I can't tell. In the KC play, do you think Juice was throwing a block?

It's a designed route to cut off the defenders path to the ball. Juice just did a horrible job of selling it by running right into the guy and pushing him back a yard. Prob because he's a FB used to blocking. If that's a WR he prob brushes the LB with a shoulder and runs right by him pulling him to the middle of the field.

I think the Refs thought he was blocking because that's what they called. lol

Yeah refs definitely thought he was blocking. There is no pick/rub element to this three route combination, I posted a pic on the previous page. I am positive of three things: Juice was not blocking, the defender on Juice had no intention of covering Kittle, the defender on Juice had no intention of covering the corner of the end zone.

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by thl408:
SoCold, those look like screen passes in those images you posted but I can't tell. In the KC play, do you think Juice was throwing a block?

It's a designed route to cut off the defenders path to the ball. Juice just did a horrible job of selling it by running right into the guy and pushing him back a yard. Prob because he's a FB used to blocking. If that's a WR he prob brushes the LB with a shoulder and runs right by him pulling him to the middle of the field.

I think the Refs thought he was blocking because that's what they called. lol

Originally posted by glorydayz:

If we need the refs to help us win, we've already lost

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by thl408:
SoCold, those look like screen passes in those images you posted but I can't tell. In the KC play, do you think Juice was throwing a block?

It's a designed route to cut off the defenders path to the ball. Juice just did a horrible job of selling it by running right into the guy and pushing him back a yard. Prob because he's a FB used to blocking. If that's a WR he prob brushes the LB with a shoulder and runs right by him pulling him to the middle of the field.

I think the Refs thought he was blocking because that's what they called. lol

I mean, it wasn't a designed' route to cut the defender off. that's pretty obvious. however the only thing I would agree with is that KJ did himself no favors.

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by thl408:
SoCold, those look like screen passes in those images you posted but I can't tell. In the KC play, do you think Juice was throwing a block?

It's a designed route to cut off the defenders path to the ball. Juice just did a horrible job of selling it by running right into the guy and pushing him back a yard. Prob because he's a FB used to blocking. If that's a WR he prob brushes the LB with a shoulder and runs right by him pulling him to the middle of the field.

I think the Refs thought he was blocking because that's what they called. lol

I mean, it wasn't a designed' route to cut the defender off. that's pretty obvious. however the only thing I would agree with is that KJ did himself no favors.

cut off as in taking that defender to another area of the field so he can't make a play on where the pass is going.

Originally posted by BuZzB05:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
If we need the refs to help us win, we've already lost

Why? You need the refs helped us win? But it is not fair.. it is not the real game. Refs must honest to watch the correct game. Refs didnt honest that they didnt throw the flags and screwed to the 49ers make lost game. Refs are wrong for dishonest game!

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by thl408:
SoCold, those look like screen passes in those images you posted but I can't tell. In the KC play, do you think Juice was throwing a block?

It's a designed route to cut off the defenders path to the ball. Juice just did a horrible job of selling it by running right into the guy and pushing him back a yard. Prob because he's a FB used to blocking. If that's a WR he prob brushes the LB with a shoulder and runs right by him pulling him to the middle of the field.

I think the Refs thought he was blocking because that's what they called. lol

I mean, it wasn't a designed' route to cut the defender off. that's pretty obvious. however the only thing I would agree with is that KJ did himself no favors.

cut off as in taking that defender to another area of the field so he can't make a play on where the pass is going.

still, it wasn't. half his route ran right into man coverage. but like I said Juice did himself no favors and if anything sold offensive PI when he shouldve sold defensive. shouldve never thrown his hands up like that

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by thl408:
SoCold, those look like screen passes in those images you posted but I can't tell. In the KC play, do you think Juice was throwing a block?

It's a designed route to cut off the defenders path to the ball. Juice just did a horrible job of selling it by running right into the guy and pushing him back a yard. Prob because he's a FB used to blocking. If that's a WR he prob brushes the LB with a shoulder and runs right by him pulling him to the middle of the field.

I think the Refs thought he was blocking because that's what they called. lol

Yeah refs definitely thought he was blocking. There is no pick/rub element to this three route combination, I posted a pic on the previous page. I am positive of three things: Juice was not blocking, the defender on Juice had no intention of covering Kittle, the defender on Juice had no intention of covering the corner of the end zone.

Yeah that doesn't matter tho once you make contact.

It's all about location of contact and location of the ball.

Say if the pass was thrown at Juice and hits the LB in the back. Then the LB is blocking Juices route to the ball and defensive PI should be called.