Coaches Film Analysis: 2017 Season

Here's the aforementioned "drive" concept. This is the play just before the Taylor play Thl showed.



I really like this play. There's so much going on. We motion Kittle across the formation and it reveals zone coverage. They give this cover 6 look and the single side corner starts to bail before the snap, showing cover 4 but It's going to be cover 3 "buzz".

We run a lot of stuff here. We have a diagonal 7 concept, which is a variation of a smash or ohio concepts that uses a corner route or out route from the receiver at the top with a flat route and is used to beat 2 safeties. We then have a "drive" concept with Garcon and Taylor which will vertically stretch a cover 3 zone as it will put the weakside hook/curl defender in conflict.

In case they run man, we also have Kittle coming out of the backfield. With the drive concept action it would create a natural pick/rub play against man-coverage as his man-defender would have to fight through 4 people to stay with him. I love this play. It also puts a LOT on the QB. This is the epitome of full field reads - this is a lot on a rookie QB. He's got concepts to beat cover 1,2,3,4 and man. So, in theory, if this play is run correctly it's impossible to stop.



The snap kind of confuses CJ because the safety drops down like "buzz" coverage but the LB is slow to move out on his flat/curl responsibility.



Once the LB realizes his flat/curl responsibility he bails out and the safety has filled that spot. That means he's now the key read on the "drive" concept. If he plays the shallow cross, throw the DIG. If he plays the DIG, shallow cross.



Here, the safety drives on the shallow cross, which opens up Taylor's DIG route. CJ should be throwing it to Taylor right here.



You see how Taylor was open and CJ threw it to Garcon. Now, he did have pressure in his face and had realized he made the wrong read at first and pulled down the throw when the safety was first driving on it.



Here you can see he did have a lot of pressure in his face. The good news is, as Thl's play showed, they ran this same coverage on the very next play and he hit Taylor for 10 yards. That's what you like to see.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Man were we spoiled with years of good MLB play diagnosing these quickly and blowing them up.

Rueben. Please get better.

Not only that but versus a two gapping scheme like what Fangio ran when he had Bow/Willis, it's harder to pull off a good RB screen pass. Versus a one gapping scheme like what the 49ers do now, with DL trying to penetrate and get into the backfield, these 49ers are more susceptible to RB screens. But yeah, having all pro ILBs sure helped.

Yep and your ILB's didn't have to worry about filling their one-gap so quickly. In this defense, they have to get to their one-gap as first and foremost responsibility and then go hunting.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by cortana49:
More please.

working as fast as I can! It takes about 15 min per each one of these

No problem, really appreciate the work.

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I think his presnap read here with middle open is to attack the undercoverage, or with middle closed work the vertical stretch on the outside to the two receiver side... his post snap read is Will, if Will stays on his side of the field he works the 3 receiver side of the combo (see him look right during his drop then swivel his head left), otherwise he works to the two receiver side, the progression outside in... IMO teaching a QB to execute the progressions based on concepts and not combos, and reading a key defender to determine strength of the coverage and which part of the field to attack, makes it very simple to learn and execute... this is just my opinion and what I see here...

Excellent break down guys, any thoughts on the running game? I know there wasn't much to show in that regard

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Here's the aforementioned "drive" concept. This is the play just before the Taylor play Thl showed.



I really like this play. There's so much going on. We motion Kittle across the formation and it reveals zone coverage. They give this cover 6 look and the single side corner starts to bail before the snap, showing cover 4 but It's going to be cover 3 "buzz".

We run a lot of stuff here. We have a diagonal 7 concept, which is a variation of a smash or ohio concepts that uses a corner route or out route from the receiver at the top with a flat route and is used to beat 2 safeties. We then have a "drive" concept with Garcon and Taylor which will vertically stretch a cover 3 zone as it will put the weakside hook/curl defender in conflict.

In case they run man, we also have Kittle coming out of the backfield. With the drive concept action it would create a natural pick/rub play against man-coverage as his man-defender would have to fight through 4 people to stay with him. I love this play. It also puts a LOT on the QB. This is the epitome of full field reads - this is a lot on a rookie QB. He's got concepts to beat cover 1,2,3,4 and man. So, in theory, if this play is run correctly it's impossible to stop.



The snap kind of confuses CJ because the safety drops down like "buzz" coverage but the LB is slow to move out on his flat/curl responsibility.



Once the LB realizes his flat/curl responsibility he bails out and the safety has filled that spot. That means he's now the key read on the "drive" concept. If he plays the shallow cross, throw the DIG. If he plays the DIG, shallow cross.



Here, the safety drives on the shallow cross, which opens up Taylor's DIG route. CJ should be throwing it to Taylor right here.



You see how Taylor was open and CJ threw it to Garcon. Now, he did have pressure in his face and had realized he made the wrong read at first and pulled down the throw when the safety was first driving on it.



Here you can see he did have a lot of pressure in his face. The good news is, as Thl's play showed, they ran this same coverage on the very next play and he hit Taylor for 10 yards. That's what you like to see.

Aside from formation, personnel grouping and the SE route it's all there

Originally posted by Niners816:
Aside from formation, personnel grouping and the SE route it's all there

Nice find. This is why I don't think there any real "innovators" nowadays. Everything is just recycled concepts/plays that are dressed up with formation, motion, personnel, etc. The latest "big" innovative concept imo are packaged plays (run pass options).

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Aside from formation, personnel grouping and the SE route it's all there

Nice find. This is why I don't think there any real "innovators" nowadays. Everything is just recycled concepts/plays that are dressed up with formation, motion, personnel, etc. The latest "big" innovative concept imo are packaged plays (run pass options).

This was from the 1985 Walsh book.....the QB steps even equal up then it was 5 steps undercenter and here it was a Gun+3.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners816:
Aside from formation, personnel grouping and the SE route it's all there

Nice find. This is why I don't think there any real "innovators" nowadays. Everything is just recycled concepts/plays that are dressed up with formation, motion, personnel, etc. The latest "big" innovative concept imo are packaged plays (run pass options).

This was from the 1985 Walsh book.....the QB steps even equal up then it was 5 steps undercenter and here it was a Gun+3.

That is a really nice find. Wow. It also shows just how much of an innovator Walsh really was. I'm just thinking about how long this individual play took to install. You'd have to break down what goes on in each situation.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

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I think his presnap read here with middle open is to attack the undercoverage, or with middle closed work the vertical stretch on the outside to the two receiver side... his post snap read is Will, if Will stays on his side of the field he works the 3 receiver side of the combo (see him look right during his drop then swivel his head left), otherwise he works to the two receiver side, the progression outside in... IMO teaching a QB to execute the progressions based on concepts and not combos, and reading a key defender to determine strength of the coverage and which part of the field to attack, makes it very simple to learn and execute... this is just my opinion and what I see here...

That's definitely possible. It's what makes it hard about trying to decipher these things without being in the meeting rooms.

My thoughts would be - 1st, identify the coverage by the safety look. If they widen - you immediately move your eyes to the diagonal 7 or curl/flat concept(which it is i particular really isn't important) and read the outside defender as your "key" and attack him in conflict. If you see man pre-snap, then you look to hit the TE right away. If you see the safeties stay in the middle or rotate into a cover 3 then you immediately jump your eyes to the WILL backer as your key and read for the drive concept, shallow cross to DIG.

Originally posted by Niners816:
This was from the 1985 Walsh book.....the QB steps even equal up then it was 5 steps undercenter and here it was a Gun+3.

also, you must know that playbook better than I do, haha. I have that one but didn't remember seeing this particular play. Do you have yours categorized or bookmarked or anything? I have a hard time finding the different concepts in there when I'm trying to quickly look it up because it's so long to cycle through the 300+ pages.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

That is a really nice find. Wow. It also shows just how much of an innovator Walsh really was. I'm just thinking about how long this individual play took to install. You'd have to break down what goes on in each situation.

It's trippy s**t when you think about.....this is 1985 niners playbook. So this is the first niners PB Jerry saw. IMO, nobody has done more damage on drive concepts then Jerry did. This is basically the page in the PB when he learned the keys to it.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
JD, could you do something on this play in the 3rd quarter?

1-10-WAS 30 (11:17) (No Huddle) 3-C.Beathard sacked at WAS 41 for -11 yards (91-R.Kerrigan).

When I re-watched it, it looked like Garcon had his man beaten badly, and the deep safety committed hard to the other side of the field. If Beathard would've looked that way, could have been an easy TD. We ended up settling for a FG.

Yeah, it's what happened, we talked about that play a little bit yesterday in the Bethard thread but it probably got buried. It's hard to tell what he's been coached to do in that situation because of the run action and the 3 receiver side. He had made it to his 3rd progression on the play and they had moved the launch point to that side of the field so he may not be given anything more than 3 progressions on the play and Garcon may just be a route to hold the safety(which it didn't). So it may have been a case where his biggest mistake wasn't throwing it away.

The bolded is a good possibility.
Pole concept to the left + 2 verticals to the right. Outside zone playaction. WAS is in Cover1.


After playaction, CJ looks at the 2 verticals. I'm not sure how either of these 2 vertical routes would be open since the playaction will bring the FS to that side of the field. Especially since it's to the short side of the field (boundary). There just isn't much room on that side. It's almost as if CJ's first read should be Garcon on a throwback across the field since the playaction is sure to bring the FS with it.


CJ red lights both verticals and in this picture is looking at Hyde to checkdown, but Hyde isn't open either. If CJ is taught to look deep then look to checkdown, then that's what he did, and no one was open. But doing this causes CJ to miss out on how the playaction moved the blue FS away from Garcon.
If CJ had looked to Garcon after noticing that the FS moved away from that side of the field, maybe he has a window to Garcon. But we don't know what CJ is taught to do here.


From the endzone view, you can see CJ look deep then look short. I'd rather CJ look deep to key the FS then throw to wherever the FS is not - in this case, Garcon's side. It's a throw back across the field, which is something I've seen Kyle ask his QB to do on those TE misdirection throw back across the field type of plays.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by Niners816:

This was from the 1985 Walsh book.....the QB steps even equal up then it was 5 steps undercenter and here it was a Gun+3.

also, you must know that playbook better than I do, haha. I have that one but didn't remember seeing this particular play. Do you have yours categorized or bookmarked or anything? I have a hard time finding the different concepts in there when I'm trying to quickly look it up because it's so long to cycle through the 300+ pages.

I got it on Scribd and saved all the plays I was looking for on my phone in my pics. I had this marked as 1985. However, all the Walsh stuff I've seen is either '82 or '85.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners816:
Aside from formation, personnel grouping and the SE route it's all there

LOL and there it is, I promise I have never seen that combo from that playbook!... his key defender read is Will, and he is progressing outside in, that was my hunch... for passing combos Will is not the linebacker to the weakside of the formation, for passing combos Will is the hook defender on the two receiver side... if there is only one hook defender then "Mike" becomes they key defender read...

We were talking about handful of different concepts, one concept I think I forgot to mention is the "Alert" concept to scheme against pass pro versus an unblockable blitz defender... it would be great if you guys could pull one of those up...you guys are doing a great job breaking down the film!