Injuries - 9-Year Analysis

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I don't think that's what he's referencing at all. He's saying the recent "science" focus is a contributing factor in the volume of these injuries because these tactics are taking away from the old school mindset of simply, grabbing a bar and building up callouses. That mentality had them as the 8th and 1st healthiest team in Harbaugh's first two years. 4th under Singletary.

Kyle's approach has had them at 23rd, 29th, 27th & 32nd.

Science ain't working.

The players union has negotiated for so much mandatory off time that players just dont get in enough reps anymore. Like Staley said, they used to work hard and develop a callous of strength and toughness. Now its like everything is light and half speed, and then they enter games and ramp it up and their bodies break.

I agree, I think Staley is on to something, but I have no clue how to proceed forward on that idea.

The CBA only sets parameters for times, when you can start wearing pads, when you can have live contact, etc.

What you do in between the lines seems to have been taken over by GPS's monitors and sports science and nutrition.

Hell, the CBA even allows you to incentivize players to show up to lift weights in the off season.

So I think these are conscious choices by some teams...maybe many teams. But I think the CBA parameters are becoming a false excuse.

I do agree that the three-a-days are gone though.

I agree, I think sports science may be over emphasized, to the point that players don't have the contact experience to protect themselves from injury. As I said in my response to Doc, Mostert was seemingly trying to do too much in trying to gain yardage instead of protecting himself by ducking the tackle and going down. Same with Jimmy, he wouldn't have gotten his knee injured if he simply would have gotten out of bounds instead of taking on the defender. Those two examples maybe could have been changed if they had more contact in the offseason to where they instinctively protect themselves instead of overdoing it in trying to gain yardage. I don't know. I'm just frustrated these injuries just keep happening and I have no clue how to figure it out.

Truly.

And we feel your pain!

Not bad. Keep an eye on Kinlaw this week. He could hardly move at the end.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Not bad. Keep an eye on Kinlaw this week. He could hardly move at the end.

#49ers postgame injury report:
DT Kevin Givens (ankle)
RB Elijah Mitchell (shoulder)
RB JaMycal Hasty (ankle)
RB Trey Sermon (concussion)

— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) September 19, 2021

Deebo Samuel and Kyle Juszczyk both had cramps.

— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) September 19, 2021

Hope Kinlaw heals up. One thing about the injury situation last year, the pro-personnel department had to up their game this year. The Norman pick up seems to be a good one. Their next artifical turf game isn't (I think) until December 5 in Seadderall Land, hopefully by then Hurd, Wilson, etc... are back to add to the depth of the team. Its almost like they have game planned for injuries by adding depth throughout the year via IR, Suspension, and the PUP lists.

Sounds like Givens will go on I.R.

Anyone have updates on Kittle and Kinlaw's knee? Hasty's ankle?

Niners are trying out Lamar Miller and Duke Johnson .

every RB is hurt

Kyle said both Givens and Hasty will be out awhile. And Mitchell is day to day and Sermon is in concussion protocol.

Madness!

What sucks even more about Hasty's injury is it was a result of a cheap shot.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
What sucks even more about Hasty's injury is it was a result of a cheap shot.

Yeah, that's another factor in injuries. Goodwin got his bell rung and he wasn't the same the year after.

From the home article. Nothing new but an update.

It's not a new injury, though. Kinlaw has been dealing with knee issues for a while now. The injury initially occurred against the Dallas Cowboys last season, forcing the then-rookie to miss the last two games of season.

Shanahan said the team will manage Kinlaw's knee injury this week, which could once again mean limited practice for the second-year defender.

"It's the same situation that he's had," Shanahan told reporters. "I mean, you guys know his knee has been bothering him, so we've been [managing it]. This is the first time this year we were able to get him to the game, and just the fact that I didn't hear he had any setbacks today — I haven't seen him personally, but I know he was pretty positive with it, and we didn't see anything get worse. I feel that's a good sign, not a bad sign.

"But he's not out of the woods at all yet. We're still going to have to work throughout the week to keep making sure it goes in the right direction like I feel like it is right now."

Originally posted by NinerGM:
So I've lost count - is Kentavious Street injured? I know Hurst is right?

2021 Injured Reserve / PUP / NFI / Suspension Total:
RB Jeff Wilson Jr.
T/G Justin Skule
SS Tarvarius Moore
CB Tim Harris Jr. - Browns
SS Tony Jefferson
WR/PR Richie James
RB Raheem Mostert
CB Jason Verrett
WILL Dre Greenlaw
RB Jamycal Hasty - LIKELY
3T Kevin Givens - LIKELY
3T Maurice Hurst Jr. - Short-Term I.R.
CB Davontae Harris - Short-Term I.R.
Z/FWR Jalen Hurd - Short-Term I.R.
LT Shon Coleman - Injury Settlement
MIKE Mychal Kendricks - Injury Settlement
ZWR Austin Watkins - Injury Settlement
ER Jordan Willis - Suspended

2021 (17) --- 2020 (45) --- 2019 (16) --- 2018 (18) --- 2017 (26) --- 2016 (22) --- 2015 (17) --- 2014 (21)

Minor shoulder with Mitchell and concussion for Sermon.

I'm waiting for updates on Kittle and Kinlaw. Must be fine with they knees; managing.

Ahhh man, we might have more I.R.'s. Home page article.

Kevin Givens suffered a high-ankle sprain during the team's 17-11 victory over the Philadelphia Eagles.

Givens' injury occurred in the first quarter. Also suffering a high-ankle sprain was running back JaMycal Hasty. Shanahan doesn't expect either to return soon.

"Kevin Givens had a high-ankle [sprain]," Shanahan said. "He'll be out for a while. Same thing with JaMycal Hasty—high-ankle."

Shanahan also provided injury updates to several 49ers running backs, a position group seemingly hit hard on Sunday. Elijah Mitchell, Trey Sermon, and Hasty each left the game. However, Mitchell did return following the injuries to the other two.

Mitchell is "day to day" with a shoulder injury. Sermon is in the concussion protocol.

"Arik Armstead had an abductor," Shanahan added. "We'll be the same this week as we were last week with him. Javon Kinlaw, knee. We'll have to manage him this week. Josh Norman had an ankle. He's day to day. Hoping to get [Emmanuel] Moseley back this week."

Originally posted by NCommand:
Ahhh man, we might have more I.R.'s. Home page article.

Kevin Givens suffered a high-ankle sprain during the team's 17-11 victory over the Philadelphia Eagles.

Givens' injury occurred in the first quarter. Also suffering a high-ankle sprain was running back JaMycal Hasty. Shanahan doesn't expect either to return soon.

"Kevin Givens had a high-ankle [sprain]," Shanahan said. "He'll be out for a while. Same thing with JaMycal Hasty—high-ankle."

Shanahan also provided injury updates to several 49ers running backs, a position group seemingly hit hard on Sunday. Elijah Mitchell, Trey Sermon, and Hasty each left the game. However, Mitchell did return following the injuries to the other two.

Mitchell is "day to day" with a shoulder injury. Sermon is in the concussion protocol.

"Arik Armstead had an abductor," Shanahan added. "We'll be the same this week as we were last week with him. Javon Kinlaw, knee. We'll have to manage him this week. Josh Norman had an ankle. He's day to day. Hoping to get [Emmanuel] Moseley back this week."

Key is no season ending injuries unlike the Astro-Crete game in Detroit where we lost Verett and Mostert. Two other Astro-Crete Games this season are in Seadderall Land on December 5 and the last game of the season in Los Angeles. Personally if I was Kyle and we've made the playoffs prior to the last game in LA, Id protect all our starters in that last game and not play them on that astro-crete in Los Angeles, even if it's for the number 1 seed.

Originally posted by NCommand:
2021 Injured Reserve / PUP / NFI / Suspension Total:
RB Jeff Wilson Jr.
T/G Justin Skule
SS Tarvarius Moore
CB Tim Harris Jr. - Browns
SS Tony Jefferson
WR/PR Richie James
RB Raheem Mostert
CB Jason Verrett
WILL Dre Greenlaw
3T Kevin Givens - LIKELY
3T Maurice Hurst Jr. - Short-Term I.R.
CB Davontae Harris - Short-Term I.R.
Z/FWR Jalen Hurd - Short-Term I.R.
LT Shon Coleman - Injury Settlement
MIKE Mychal Kendricks - Injury Settlement
ZWR Austin Watkins - Injury Settlement
ER Jordan Willis - Suspended

2021 (16) --- 2020 (45) --- 2019 (16) --- 2018 (18) --- 2017 (26) --- 2016 (22) --- 2015 (17) --- 2014 (21)

Monitoring Hasty's ankle, minor shoulder with Mitchell and concussion for Sermon.

I'm waiting for updates on Kittle. Must be fine with his knee.

2021 (16) --- 2020 (45) --- 2019 (16)
Silver Lining. They are going to the SB !!!!! (too soon?)

High ankle sprained for Hasty. Isn't that usually 4-6 weeks?