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My way-too-early 53:

QB: 3 (Hoyer, Barkley, Beathard)
RB: 4 (Hyde, Williams, Hightower, Bibbs)
FB: 1 (Juszczyk)
WR:5 (Garcon, Kerley, Goodwin, Robinson, Taylor)
TE: 3 (McDonald, Paulsen, Kittle)
OL: 9 (Staley, Zuttah, Garnett, Beadles, Brown, Gilliam, Fusco, Kilgore, Magnuson)

DL: 8 (Buckner, Armstead, Mitchell, Thomas, C. Jones, D.J. Jones, Blair, Lynch)
LB: 7 (Bowman, Brooks, Foster, Smith, Armstrong, Coyle, Watson)
CB: 6 (Robinson, Redmond, Witherspoon, Johnson, Williams, Reaser)
S: 4 (Ward, Reid, Tartt, Jerome)

K: 1 (Gould)
P: 1 (Pinion)
LS: 1 (Nelson)

Quick thoughts on the above:

-QBs: Pretty straightforward (Hoyer - the bridge until next year that knows Shanahan's system, but in the meantime keep improving on the last 12 games started, which he's produced good numbers; Barkley will be a hopefully better-than-average backup; looking forward to seeing Beathard in the preseason)

-RBs: Bibbs over Breida at this time due to what they gave up to get Bibbs + Lynch has closely watched him play & he has ST abilities; Hightower makes it due to his experience in Shanahan's offense + what he showed last year in NO

-FB: "Juice" was the Free Agent FB I was hoping the team would get (been watching him pretty closely w/ the Ravens)...he'll do a lot for the team at FB - as an "OW"

-WRs: Only five due to no obvious 6th WR at this time (wouldn't mind seeing a breakout candidate make it such as Bolden); Ellington is already hurt and not liking his chances so far

-TEs: I like McDonald's playmaking ability he showed last year but again, he needs to stay healthy and continue to limit those drops; if you only have 3 TEs, I don't see where Celek and Bell make it over any of the above; Paulsen is a good blocking TE & was sought out in FA by the new regime; really looking forward to seeing what Kittle can do; Hikutini will probably be on the PS

-OL: I like to go with 9 with all the wear and tear/injuries on the OL during the course of the season; Barnes doesn't make it as you already have three who can play C in Zuttah, Kilgore, and Beadles

-DL: Very difficult to leave out Dial and Carradine - I like Dial and this could be a good system fit for Carradine but you can only have so many DL towards the 53; Lynch needs to pick up his game but we've seen what he can do and it's impressive; C. Jones sounds like he's off to a good start and looked pretty good last year; Blair is versatile and a hard worker - I think he gets just that much better this year; D.J. Jones has shown to be very athletic for a squatty, run-stopping NT

-LBs: Again, only so many spots and Harold isn't included (not an easy decision - I hope he does well in the new scheme); Smith will show his worth at times with his athleticism and in knowing the scheme well (wasn't overjoyed in signing him but I can see the reasoning); Armstrong is also athletic and seems to be a quality backup; Watson and Coyle are decent backups and are too valuable on ST (plus, Coyle played in this scheme)

-CBs: I like going with 6 due to the injuries that always seem to hit this position group (and, the team has the above 6 that right now seem worthy of a roster spot); really looking forward to seeing Robinson build on the good year he had last season; hoping Redmond is healthy as I like his potential to be a starter; Witherspoon I have high hopes for...we know he can cover and has the physical traits + athleticism for that; however, it's his physicality that has me a little worried - will he stick his nose in there when needed for run support?; hoping Reaser improves on last season as I liked many things I saw from him; Johnson is a little perplexing - he's up and down - but I still like his upside and hopefully he impresses the new coaching staff; (Wildcard is Colbert due to his ability to play CB & S along with being big & fast)

-S: Will Ward be a quality centerfield FS? I hope so - I want to see some playmaking from him back there and want to see him play a full season; For Reid, I'm hoping for improvement and him staying concussion-free; Tartt has a lot to prove - he took some brutal angles last year in tackling but he can make plays when playing closer to the line of scrimmage - maybe this scheme will be good for him?; Looking forward to seeing how Jerome's game translates to the pro level after being a playmaking S in college - though he didn't show the best results at the combine, this guy could just be a player that really shows well during games with good instincts, "playing faster" than what he's timed at, etc.

-K, P, & LS: Gould hopefully will have a good season (better than Dawson last year?); Pinion needs to really help flip field position and be consistent in helping win that battle weekly; Nelson is a very solid LS - can't remember the last bad snap he's had.

Football season can't get here fast enough!
[ Edited by LottDMontanaO on May 30, 2017 at 11:33 PM ]
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QB (3): Hoyer, Barkley, Beathard
RB (4): Hyde, Williams, Hightower, Bibbs
FB (1): Juszczyk
TE (4): McDonald, Kittle, Hikutini, Paulsen
WR (6): Garcon, Kerley, Goodwin, Robinson, Taylor, Burbridge
OL (8): Staley, Beadles, Zuttah, Garnett, Brown, Gilliam, Fusco, Kilgore

DL (8): Thomas, Buckner, Mitchell, Armstead, Lynch, Jones, Blair, Carradine
LB (6): Foster, Bowman, Brooks, Smith, Armstrong, Coyle
CB (6): Robinson, Redmond, Witherspoon, Williams, Johnson, Colbert
S (4): Reid, Ward, Tartt, Jerome

ST (3): Gould, Pinion, Nelson

There's obviously gonna be some cuts. I wanted to hang on to Burbridge because I like his upside and he played very well on special teams last year.
I could see Kilgore (brought in two centers in FA) and obviously McDonald be traded. If Kilgore leaves them Barnes stays. He might be the better center anyways.

I know Paulsen knows the system but I don't think he is a lock to make the team, same with Aldrick Robinson.

Ugh Hurry up and be September already!
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We are still really bad at WR. Hope we can make it though the season with that group.
[ Edited by mayo49 on May 31, 2017 at 1:46 AM ]
Originally posted by mayo49:
We are still really bad at WR. Hope we can make it though the season with that group.

If Garçon goes down we're effed... if he doesn't I think we're just fine due to McD/Celek/Kittle, RBs and Juice catching passes.
...just kidding #ElvisDumervil
[ Edited by NCommand on Jun 5, 2017 at 11:32 AM ]
Wonder who gets cut now that Elvis is in the building
Originally posted by captveg:
Wonder who gets cut now that Elvis is in the building

Brooks. Saleh wants his SAM to rush up to 70% of the time (nickel). Elvis is a better pass rusher than Brooks and Malcolm can play the SAM on base downs (run defense; more athletic and much faster).

Base: Thomas - Jones - Buckner - Armstead + Smith - Bowman - Foster
Nickel: Dumervil - Buckner - Thomas - Lynch + Bowman - Foster
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by captveg:
Wonder who gets cut now that Elvis is in the building

Brooks. Saleh wants his SAM to rush up to 70% of the time (nickel). Elvis is a better pass rusher than Brooks and Malcolm can play the SAM on base downs (run defense; more athletic and much faster).

Base: Thomas - Jones - Buckner - Armstead + Smith - Bowman - Foster
Nickel: Dumervil - Buckner - Thomas - Lynch + Bowman - Foster

I dont think they signed Mitchell to be 2nd team to a 6th rd rookie on the base D. But we shall see.

Thomas - Mitchell - Buckner - Armstead. Elvis replaces Mitchell on passing downs and Thomas kicks inside.

Lots of solid players on the D line as backups as well with Jones, Blair, Tank, and Lynch.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by captveg:
Wonder who gets cut now that Elvis is in the building

Brooks. Saleh wants his SAM to rush up to 70% of the time (nickel). Elvis is a better pass rusher than Brooks and Malcolm can play the SAM on base downs (run defense; more athletic and much faster).

Base: Thomas - Jones - Buckner - Armstead + Smith - Bowman - Foster
Nickel: Dumervil - Buckner - Thomas - Lynch + Bowman - Foster

I dont think they signed Mitchell to be 2nd team to a 6th rd rookie on the base D. But we shall see.

Thomas - Mitchell - Buckner - Armstead. Elvis replaces Mitchell on passing downs and Thomas kicks inside.

Lots of solid players on the D line as backups as well with Jones, Blair, Tank, and Lynch.

Oh yeah, for sure. Mitchell will probably be the first to take the field. Whoever is most stout. And I agree...about 400 different combos to use...pull the NT or a LB.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by captveg:
Wonder who gets cut now that Elvis is in the building

Brooks. Saleh wants his SAM to rush up to 70% of the time (nickel). Elvis is a better pass rusher than Brooks and Malcolm can play the SAM on base downs (run defense; more athletic and much faster).

Base: Thomas - Jones - Buckner - Armstead + Smith - Bowman - Foster
Nickel: Dumervil - Buckner - Thomas - Lynch + Bowman - Foster

Think you're under rating Brooks here, NC. The coaching staff appears to like him. And there's been no mention of Smith as a SAM. In fact Shanny saying a good LB will be in the bench signals they aren't even considering moving one of those guys to sam
Originally posted by kush:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by captveg:
Wonder who gets cut now that Elvis is in the building

Brooks. Saleh wants his SAM to rush up to 70% of the time (nickel). Elvis is a better pass rusher than Brooks and Malcolm can play the SAM on base downs (run defense; more athletic and much faster).

Base: Thomas - Jones - Buckner - Armstead + Smith - Bowman - Foster
Nickel: Dumervil - Buckner - Thomas - Lynch + Bowman - Foster

Think you're under rating Brooks here, NC. The coaching staff appears to like him. And there's been no mention of Smith as a SAM. In fact Shanny saying a good LB will be in the bench signals they aren't even considering moving one of those guys to sam

Yeah no way we cut Brooks right now... They won't make any hard cuts right now, look for someone like Gilbert/Iworah to get cut.
Originally posted by kush:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by captveg:
Wonder who gets cut now that Elvis is in the building

Brooks. Saleh wants his SAM to rush up to 70% of the time (nickel). Elvis is a better pass rusher than Brooks and Malcolm can play the SAM on base downs (run defense; more athletic and much faster).

Base: Thomas - Jones - Buckner - Armstead + Smith - Bowman - Foster
Nickel: Dumervil - Buckner - Thomas - Lynch + Bowman - Foster

Think you're under rating Brooks here, NC. The coaching staff appears to like him. And there's been no mention of Smith as a SAM. In fact Shanny saying a good LB will be in the bench signals they aren't even considering moving one of those guys to sam

I love Brooks...even dawn his jersey (seriously). But...it may be nearing the end, not b/c he sucks, but b/c the roles are changing for the SAM in Saleh's 4-3. Until Foster is 100%, Smith will continue to man the WILL but he's one of several players, esp. with his contract, who could play the SAM on base running downs and then give way to Elvis to rush from the SAM/LDE on passing downs. That pass rushing role, like Saleh notes, will be on the field for up to 70% of the snaps. Your LEO & SAM will 'really be' your two best edge rushers. And right now, that's probably Elvis/SAM & Lynch/LEO followed by depth with Brooks, Harold, Pita, etc. So we'll see...it could mean a specialist like Carradine is Tanked instead.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by kush:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by captveg:
Wonder who gets cut now that Elvis is in the building

Brooks. Saleh wants his SAM to rush up to 70% of the time (nickel). Elvis is a better pass rusher than Brooks and Malcolm can play the SAM on base downs (run defense; more athletic and much faster).

Base: Thomas - Jones - Buckner - Armstead + Smith - Bowman - Foster
Nickel: Dumervil - Buckner - Thomas - Lynch + Bowman - Foster

Think you're under rating Brooks here, NC. The coaching staff appears to like him. And there's been no mention of Smith as a SAM. In fact Shanny saying a good LB will be in the bench signals they aren't even considering moving one of those guys to sam

I love Brooks...even dawn his jersey (seriously). But...it may be nearing the end, not b/c he sucks, but b/c the roles are changing for the SAM in Saleh's 4-3. Until Foster is 100%, Smith will continue to man the WILL but he's one of several players, esp. with his contract, who could play the SAM on base running downs and then give way to Elvis to rush from the SAM/LDE on passing downs. That pass rushing role, like Saleh notes, will be on the field for up to 70% of the snaps. Your LEO & SAM will 'really be' your two best edge rushers. And right now, that's probably Elvis/SAM & Lynch/LEO followed by depth with Brooks, Harold, Pita, etc. So we'll see...it could mean a specialist like Carradine is Tanked instead.

Yep. That's my opinion. Carradine or Watson first before Brooks. Heck, Harold would be before Brooksmright now. I'm not sure why we're even discussing Brooks. Y'all acting like we're already down to the 53. Cut some camp body and call it a day.
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Yep. That's my opinion. Carradine or Watson first before Brooks. Heck, Harold would be before Brooksmright now. I'm not sure why we're even discussing Brooks. Y'all acting like we're already down to the 53. Cut some camp body and call it a day.

Haha...that was in reference to the potential final 53. Not today. Today we'll cut Ellington.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Yep. That's my opinion. Carradine or Watson first before Brooks. Heck, Harold would be before Brooksmright now. I'm not sure why we're even discussing Brooks. Y'all acting like we're already down to the 53. Cut some camp body and call it a day.

Haha...that was in reference to the potential final 53. Not today. Today we'll cut Ellington.

Gotcha. Too much speculation to discuss that. Let's just enjoy and cut someone like Gilbert and let's discuss depth and base/sub etc!
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