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May 9, 2017 at 10:59 AM
  • fan49
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Will update as we go...

Base personnel.

Offensive Personnel: --- 25
QB: Brian Hoyer; Matt Barkley & C.J. Beathard
RB1: Carlos Hyde; Kapri Bibbs
RB2: Joe Williams; Matt Breida
OW: *Kyle Juszczyk; *George Kittle
TE: Vance McDonald; Logan Paulsen
XWR: Pierre Garçon; Marquise Goodwin
YWR: Jeremy Kerley; Trent Taylor
ZWR: Aldrick Robinson
LOT: Joe Staley
LG: Joshua Garnett; Erik Magnuson
C: Jeremy Zuttah; Tim Barnes
RG: Brandon Fusco; Daniel Kilgore
ROT: Trenton Brown; Gary Gilliam

* OW = Offensive Weapon (FB/TE/WR)

Defensive Personnel: --- 25
LDE: *Solomon Thomas; *Tank Carradine & Quinton Dial
NT/1T: D.J. Jones; *Earl Mitchell
RDT: *DeForest Bucker; *Ronald Blair
RDE: *Arik Armstead
ER: Aaron Lynch; Eli Harold, Dekoda Watson & Pita Taumoepenu
SAM: Malcolm Smith
MIKE: Navarro Bowman
WILL: Reuben Foster; Ray-Ray Armstrong
RCB: Ahkello Witherspoon; Dontae Johnson
S/CB: Will Redmond; K'Waun Williams
LCB: Rashard Robinson
FS: Jimmie Ward; Lorenzo Jerome
SS: Jaquiski Tartt; Eric Reid

* Interior Rushers / ER = Edge Rushers

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Kyle Nelson
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Bradley Pinion

PR/KOR: Jeremy Kerley & Trent Taylor; Kapri Bibbs

Practice Squad: --- 10
QB Nick Mullens (UDFA)
T Darrell Williams Jr. (UDFA)
G J.P. Flynn (UDFA)
FB Tyler McCloskey (UDFA)
TE Cole Hikutini (UDFA)
YWR/KR Victor Bolden (UDFA)
ZWR Kendrick Bourne (UDFA)
ZWR B.J. Johnson (UDFA)
ER/SAM Jimmie Gilbert (UDFA)
ER Noble Nwachuckwu (UDFA)

lynch will be lucky to make the team
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May 9, 2017 at 11:12 AM
Its really hard to predict who is going to make this team. Ironically I think the qbs are set unless there is an unforeseen circumstance. I honestly don't think any of the rbs are safe outside of Hyde and Williams. The wr group is ultra unpredictable because the only proven player is Garcon while the rest are wait and see. The defense is almost unpredictable besides Buckner, Thomas, Bow, Foster, Ward, Robinson. Probably during training camp we can see how the roster will shape up. but thats 3 months from now
May 9, 2017 at 11:27 AM
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Yup. Harbaugh's first season. I think the versatility of a team's offensive line is what weighs the heaviest during cuts. That's why these multiple position guys are becoming more and more in-demand.

Exactly. If we have a swing tackle and an interior lineman who can backup at G and C, we could probably get away with carrying 8. I think only 7 dress on gamedays usually.

Regarding the OL, I know versatility plays an important part in determining how many to keep on the 53 but so does the injury factor for this position group, one that gets beat up over the course of a season. Thus, I'd prefer the Niners to go with 9 on the OL (dress 7 on game day) as it's one of the most important position groups in thinking about winning the battle of the trenches.

For the DL, I'm thinking they'll keep at least 8, maybe 9, in running a 4-3. What you'd have now in combining the OL & DL numbers is at least 17 total towards the 53. I wish the 53 would one day expand by at least a few, maybe to 56 or more, due to so many injuries during a season and also these teams do so much evaluating and finding talent (draft, undrafted free agents, etc.) yet they can only keep so many due to the 53 limitation. There's the PS, but those players aren't team-protected in any way, unfortunately.

Keeping 9-10 is usually the comfort level but also when cuts come around, if they are desperate enough for one or two extra spots, the oline will be one of the first spots they look at.

In that case when a team goes smaller in their personnel numbers at something like the oline, they will stash an extra spot on the practice squad than maybe previously​ planned. PS isn't job protected, but tis the NFL. Start with 90, end with 53. There's always going to be tough cuts and give and take somewhere.
[ Edited by Willisfn4life on May 9, 2017 at 11:31 AM ]
May 9, 2017 at 12:02 PM
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Bold prediction but I think we will trade Garnett and T Brown, I don't think they fit Shanahan's zone blocking run scheme.
May 9, 2017 at 1:17 PM
Originally posted by Buchy:
Bold prediction but I think we will trade Garnett and T Brown, I don't think they fit Shanahan's zone blocking run scheme.

No way on Garnett IMO... Brown I could see maybe in 2018. I think Brown is VERY good in pass pro, so if you have to then you can use Beadles/Gilliam on first/second downs where you're more likely to run,play action or perhaps a short pass.
May 9, 2017 at 2:59 PM
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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by Buchy:
Bold prediction but I think we will trade Garnett and T Brown, I don't think they fit Shanahan's zone blocking run scheme.

No way on Garnett IMO... Brown I could see maybe in 2018. I think Brown is VERY good in pass pro, so if you have to then you can use Beadles/Gilliam on first/second downs where you're more likely to run,play action or perhaps a short pass.

Agreed. Garnett is basically the classic case of "he's got potential even though he doesn't fit the scheme perfectly. Let's see what he's got in year one before moving on from him".
May 9, 2017 at 5:39 PM
Originally posted by fan49:
lynch will be lucky to make the team

Yes he will.
May 10, 2017 at 6:53 AM
Originally posted by fan49:
lynch will be lucky to make the team

lol

May 10, 2017 at 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by KyleShanahan:
Originally posted by fan49:
lynch will be lucky to make the team

lol


really??? played like s**t last year. Came in 20 lbs overweight. translating to hes not a guy dedicated to football. Lynch and shanny cut guys like that for fun
[ Edited by fan49 on May 10, 2017 at 12:10 PM ]
May 10, 2017 at 2:08 PM
Originally posted by fan49:
Originally posted by KyleShanahan:
Originally posted by fan49:
lynch will be lucky to make the team

lol


really??? played like s**t last year. Came in 20 lbs overweight. translating to hes not a guy dedicated to football. Lynch and shanny cut guys like that for fun

If he is cut it won't be until the last of the pre-season cuts. I think he makes the team.
May 13, 2017 at 7:45 AM
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Its really hard to predict who is going to make this team. Ironically I think the qbs are set unless there is an unforeseen circumstance. I honestly don't think any of the rbs are safe outside of Hyde and Williams. The wr group is ultra unpredictable because the only proven player is Garcon while the rest are wait and see. The defense is almost unpredictable besides Buckner, Thomas, Bow, Foster, Ward, Robinson. Probably during training camp we can see how the roster will shape up. but thats 3 months from now

You think? I'd have to say in all the years doing my projected 53, this year might actually be the easiest for me. That in part, is b/c I know the types of players these coaches need to fill out a WCO and a 4-3_under defense. The only challenge I have, like you noted, is, will Kyle keep 6 WR's or 5? 8 OL or 9? 4 TE's or 3? I'd say over 90% of the roster is already set. And that last 10% will mostly be on players who won't even be active on game days (46 active).
[ Edited by NCommand on May 13, 2017 at 10:08 AM ]
May 13, 2017 at 9:50 AM
QB:
Brian Hoyer;
Matt Barkley
C.J Beathard

Running Back:
Carlos Hyde
Joe Williams
Tim Hightower

Full Back:
Kyle Juszczyk

TE:
Vance McDonald
George Kittle
Logan Paulson
Cole Hikutini (H/Back)

Wide Receiver:
Pierre Garcon
Marquise Goodwin
Jeremy Kerley
Aldrick Robinson
Trent Taylor

Offensive Line:
Joe Staley
Zane Beadles
Jeremy Zuttah
Joshua Garnett
Trent Brown
Garry Gilliam
Daniel Kilgore
Brandon Fusco

Defensive Line:
Solomon Thomas
DeForest Buckner
Earl Mitchell
Arik Armstead
Quinton Dial
Ronald Blair
Aaron Lynch OR Tank Carradine
Pitta Taumoepenu

Linebackers:
Reuben Foster
Navorro Bowman
Ahmad Brooks
Eli Harold
Malcolm Smith
Ray-Ray Armstrong
Brock Coyle


Defensive Backs:
Rashard Robinson
Will Redmond
K'Wuan Williams
Ahkello Witherspoon
Keith Reaser or Dontae Johnson
Jimmy Ward
Eric Reid
Jaquiski Tartt
Lorenzo Jerome
Don Jones

Special Teams: ---
LS: Kyle Nelson
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Bradley Pinion
May 13, 2017 at 10:10 AM
Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
QB:
Brian Hoyer;
Matt Barkley
C.J Beathard

Running Back:
Carlos Hyde
Joe Williams
Tim Hightower

Full Back:
Kyle Juszczyk

TE:
Vance McDonald
George Kittle
Logan Paulson
Cole Hikutini (H/Back)

Wide Receiver:
Pierre Garcon
Marquise Goodwin
Jeremy Kerley
Aldrick Robinson
Trent Taylor

Offensive Line:
Joe Staley
Zane Beadles
Jeremy Zuttah
Joshua Garnett
Trent Brown
Garry Gilliam
Daniel Kilgore
Brandon Fusco

Defensive Line:
Solomon Thomas
DeForest Buckner
Earl Mitchell
Arik Armstead
Quinton Dial
Ronald Blair
Aaron Lynch OR Tank Carradine
Pitta Taumoepenu

Linebackers:
Reuben Foster
Navorro Bowman
Ahmad Brooks
Eli Harold
Malcolm Smith
Ray-Ray Armstrong
Brock Coyle

Defensive Backs:
Rashard Robinson
Will Redmond
K'Wuan Williams
Ahkello Witherspoon
Keith Reaser or Dontae Johnson
Jimmy Ward
Eric Reid
Jaquiski Tartt
Lorenzo Jerome
Don Jones

Special Teams: ---
LS: Kyle Nelson
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Bradley Pinion

Interesting...only 3 RB's, 5 WR's, 8 OL, 4 TE's, etc. I can't wait to see how this shakes out...
May 13, 2017 at 1:40 PM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
QB:
Brian Hoyer;
Matt Barkley
C.J Beathard

Running Back:
Carlos Hyde
Joe Williams
Tim Hightower

Full Back:
Kyle Juszczyk

TE:
Vance McDonald
George Kittle
Logan Paulson
Cole Hikutini (H/Back)

Wide Receiver:
Pierre Garcon
Marquise Goodwin
Jeremy Kerley
Aldrick Robinson
Trent Taylor

Offensive Line:
Joe Staley
Zane Beadles
Jeremy Zuttah
Joshua Garnett
Trent Brown
Garry Gilliam
Daniel Kilgore
Brandon Fusco

Defensive Line:
Solomon Thomas
DeForest Buckner
Earl Mitchell
Arik Armstead
Quinton Dial
Ronald Blair
Aaron Lynch OR Tank Carradine
Pitta Taumoepenu

Linebackers:
Reuben Foster
Navorro Bowman
Ahmad Brooks
Eli Harold
Malcolm Smith
Ray-Ray Armstrong
Brock Coyle

Defensive Backs:
Rashard Robinson
Will Redmond
K'Wuan Williams
Ahkello Witherspoon
Keith Reaser or Dontae Johnson
Jimmy Ward
Eric Reid
Jaquiski Tartt
Lorenzo Jerome
Don Jones

Special Teams: ---
LS: Kyle Nelson
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Bradley Pinion

Interesting...only 3 RB's, 5 WR's, 8 OL, 4 TE's, etc. I can't wait to see how this shakes out...

I think we keep Lynch AND Cornelius... Jerome OR Don Jones are cut. Pita goes to the practice squad and we add 1 RB or WR.
May 15, 2017 at 10:47 AM
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
I think we keep Lynch AND Cornelius... Jerome OR Don Jones are cut. Pita goes to the practice squad and we add 1 RB or WR.

I would be shocked if we kept Tank and Lynch but if we do, that means both guys showed something in TC and pre-season so I am all for it. Jerome is a great PS candidate but I hope we don't risk losing him, especially being thin at FS. I think Don Jones is almost a lock to make the team with his ST's play.
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