Predict 53 man Roster- 2017

AB, I think we agree on 90% of the early projection roster. We should do a joint 'rationale' review on the ones we differ on...explore the why and why nots to see if we missed anything or buy into each other's rationale more. Basically, go through the same process ShanaLynch and the rest of the FO are about to go through.

Originally posted by NCommand:
AB, I think we agree on 90% of the early projection roster. We should do a joint 'rationale' review on the ones we differ on...explore the why and why nots to see if we missed anything or buy into each other's rationale more. Basically, go through the same process ShanaLynch and the rest of the FO are about to go through.

Sounds fun, I'm in.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:

AB, I think we agree on 90% of the early projection roster. We should do a joint 'rationale' review on the ones we differ on...explore the why and why nots to see if we missed anything or buy into each other's rationale more. Basically, go through the same process ShanaLynch and the rest of the FO are about to go through.

Sounds fun, I'm in.

What's your latest edition...mine is on page 1.

Step 1: I guess we can just list the total differing players to start from cross referencing?

Step 2: Review the differences by position group or by individual players?

Originally posted by NCommand:
Kevin Lynch

OFFENSE

QB (3): Brian Hoyer, Matt Barkley, C.J. Beathard (R)

CUT: Nick Mullens (UR)

Analysis: This is straightforward. Hoyer is the unquestioned starter and Barkley was clearly the second-best QB during the offseason program. Beathard is a third-round project who, the 49ers hope, won't need to take a regular-season snap in 2017.

RB (4): Carlos Hyde, Joe Williams (R), Tim Hightower, Matt Breida (UR)

OUT: Kapri Bibbs, Raheem Mostert

Analysis: Breida figures to battle Bibbs for a roster spot. Bibbs was acquired in a draft trade with Denver, but he's a former undrafted rookie with a 29 career carries who reportedly wasn't going to make the Broncos' roster. Breida should beat him out with a solid summer.

FB (1): Kyle Juszczyk

CUT: Tyler McCloskey (UR)

Analysis: Given his variety of anticipated roles, an injury to the uniquely skilled Juszczyk (A.K.A. Offensive Weapon) could dramatically alter the 49ers' offense.

WR (5): Pierre Garcon, Marquise Goodwin, Jermey Kerley, Trent Taylor (R), Aldrick Robinson

CUT: Victor Bolden Jr., Kendrick Bourne, Aaron Burbridge, DeAndre Carter, Bruce Ellington, DeAndre Smelter, BJ Johnson III

Analysis: They could keep six wide receivers, but is anyone on the cut list worthy of a NFL roster spot? If Ellington could stay healthy, he'd qualify as roster-worthy, but the 49ers aren't keeping three slot WRs. They gave Kerley a contract extension before free agency and Taylor was Kyle Shanahan's draft darling.

TE (3): George Kittle (R), Logan Paulsen, Cole Hikutini (UR)

CUT: Vance McDonald, Garrett Celek, Blake Bell

Analysis: Out with the old; in with two rookies and a free-agent signee. This summer, on-the-trade-block McDonald might need to resemble Mike Ditka - the legend Jim Harbaugh unwisely likened him to during the 2013 draft - to stay in Santa Clara. Celek will battle Paulsen, another dependable, no-frills blocking TE, for a roster spot, although it wouldn't be a shock if they kept four at this poistion.

OL (8): T Joe Staley, T Trent Brown, C/G Jermey Zuttah, G Zane Beadles, G Joshua Garnett, T Garry Gilliam, C/G Daniel Kilgore, G Brandon Fusco

CUT: Tim Barnes, John Flynn (UR), Andrew Lauderdale (UR), Richard Levy (UR), Erik Magnuson (UR), Norman Price, John Theus, Darrell Williams (UR)

Analysis: Zuttah missed most of the offseason program with a hamstring injury, but it would be a surprise if he isn't the starting center after he was acquired in a trade with the Ravens. Kilgore will need to beat out Barnes to log a seventh season with the 49ers.

DEFENSE

DL (7): Arik Armstead, Solomon Thomas (R), DeForest Buckner, Earl Mitchell, Quinton Dial, D.J. Jones (R), Chris Jones

CUT: Tank Carradine, Ronald Blair, Noble Nwachukwu (UR)

Analysis: This will mark the end of the road for Carradine, a 2013 second-round pick who has four sacks in his 49ers' tenure. Blair, a 2016 fifth-round pick, showed a few flashes as a rookie, but the new regime will move on.

OLB (5): Elvis Dumervil, Ahmad Brooks, Aaron Lynch, Dekoda Watson, Pita Taumoepenu (R)

CUT: Eli Harold, Jimmie Gilbert (UR)

Analysis: Harold figures to be in a fight with Taumoepenu, a raw sixth-round pick. Harold, a 2015 third-round pick with three sacks, has been underwhelming, but he figures to be finally healthy after offseason toe surgery to correct an issue that dated to high school. Lynch has undeniable ability, but isn't a roster lock after a 2016 season in which he served a four-game suspension for a failed drug test and reported for training camp around 300 pounds.

ILB (5): NaVorro Bowman, Reuben Foster (R), Malcolm Smith, Brock Coyle, Ray-Ray Armstrong

CUT: Donavin Newsom (UR)

Analysis: Coyle may not play on defense, but will assume a role as a special-teams ace. The drama here will be on who will assume the two starting spots between Bowman, Foster and Smith. My bet: Bowman and Foster.

CB (6): Rashard Robinson, Keith Reaser, Ahkello Witherspoon (R), Dontae Johnson, Will Redmond, K'Waun Williams

CUT: Adrian Colbert (R), Will Davis, Zach Franklin (UR), Prince Charles Iworah

Analysis: In this projection, Colbert, a seventh-round selection, will be the only draft pick to not make the 53-man roster. Davis, who was signed in June, could make a push, but has two torn ACLs since 2014 and didn't play in the NFL after the Ravens released him in November. Robinson is the only slam-dunk starter here. Witherspoon, a third-round pick, will compete with Baalke draft picks (Reaser and Johnson) for the other outside spot. Williams, who has a long history with secondary coach Jeff Hafley, will tussle for the nickel role with Redmond.

S (3): Eric Reid, Jimmie Ward, Jaquiski Tartt

CUT: Lorenzo Jerome (UR), Vinnie Sunseri, Don Jones, Chanceller James (UR)

Analysis: Jerome has a real chance to make the 53-man roster, but the INT machine doesn't have ideal size or speed and is making the jump from St. Francis University.

Specialists (3): K Robbie Gould; P Bradley Pinion; LS Kyle Nelson

CUT: K Nick Rose.

Analysis: Nailed it.

R: Rookie draft pick

UR: Undrafted rookie

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Branch is high going with 10 LB's but only 3 safeties. I also don't see Blair or McDonald getting cut. You can't go with two rookies and a career blocking TE who is much older than either McDonald or Celek at TE.

Blair was pretty promising last year and this scheme is a better fit for him. I also don't expect them to go with 4 RB's when they already will have Juszczyk at fullback. Hyde, Williams and Breida IMO.

Always on here reading your guys post, just thought I'd give my personal opinion on who is going to be on the 49ers roster come Week 1.
49ers Predicted 53 Man Roster

QB-Brian Hoyer, CJ Beathard- I personally don't like Matt Barkley and don't think he'll prove to be much better than CJ anyway.

RB- Carlos Hyde, Joe Williams, Matt Breida- I could see them keeping Bibbs as well but I feel these 3 are talented enough to run the rock any down.

FB-Juice

WR-Garçon, Goodwin, Kerley, Taylor, Victor Bolden, Aaron Burbridge- I feel the first 4 are locks and then it's pretty much a toss up but bolden & Aaron will be the ones to show up.
TE-Vance, Kittle, Cole Hikutini- Vance may drop some balls here and there but he's still a threat and he can block.

OT-Staley, Brown, Gilliam, Theus
Interior OL-Garnett,Kilgore, Zuttah, Fusco, Beadles- To me these are an easy pick,

DL- Buckner, Thomas, Armstead, Mitchell, Dumervil, Aaron Lynch, DJ jones, Blair, Dial- i wish we can keep everyone that we have for Dline but I can see Chris jones stealing a spot over dial

LBS-Bowman,Foster,Smith, brooks, Watson, Harold- most people think coyle can wrap up a spot, I just don't see it. Harold may finally be able to do some damage as a back up and I like Watson for ST

CBS-Robinson,Weatherspoon, Redmond, Williams, Johnson, Reaser- not much to say here I think these are the 6 guys that make sense

S-Ward,Reid, Jerome, Tartt, Colbert- huge fan of Jerome so I'm giving him a spot and Colbert is athletic as heck so maybe he can do well on ST

K/P/LS- Gould/Pinion/Nelson

Originally posted by ninerrgee:

Always on here reading your guys post, just thought I'd give my personal opinion on who is going to be on the 49ers roster come Week 1.
49ers Predicted 53 Man Roster

QB-Brian Hoyer, CJ Beathard- I personally don't like Matt Barkley and don't think he'll prove to be much better than CJ anyway.

RB- Carlos Hyde, Joe Williams, Matt Breida- I could see them keeping Bibbs as well but I feel these 3 are talented enough to run the rock any down.

FB-Juice

WR-Garçon, Goodwin, Kerley, Taylor, Victor Bolden, Aaron Burbridge- I feel the first 4 are locks and then it's pretty much a toss up but bolden & Aaron will be the ones to show up.
TE-Vance, Kittle, Cole Hikutini- Vance may drop some balls here and there but he's still a threat and he can block.

OT-Staley, Brown, Gilliam, Theus
Interior OL-Garnett,Kilgore, Zuttah, Fusco, Beadles- To me these are an easy pick,

DL- Buckner, Thomas, Armstead, Mitchell, Dumervil, Aaron Lynch, DJ jones, Blair, Dial- i wish we can keep everyone that we have for Dline but I can see Chris jones stealing a spot over dial

LBS-Bowman,Foster,Smith, brooks, Watson, Harold- most people think coyle can wrap up a spot, I just don't see it. Harold may finally be able to do some damage as a back up and I like Watson for ST

CBS-Robinson,Weatherspoon, Redmond, Williams, Johnson, Reaser- not much to say here I think these are the 6 guys that make sense

S-Ward,Reid, Jerome, Tartt, Colbert- huge fan of Jerome so I'm giving him a spot and Colbert is athletic as heck so maybe he can do well on ST

K/P/LS- Gould/Pinion/Nelson

Id be down for this but id like Robinson over Burbridge. I can see the youth factor and stealing the spot as a tough over the middle guy though. Gonna watch how he looks in pre-season. Hope to see him do something. Keep forgetting him in the group or kinda looked him off.

Here you go AB...as expected, we agree on apx. 90% of the roster right out of the gate. I organized them by your position definitions to help cross referencing (I use different definitions).

Quarterbacks:
Agree: Brian Hoyer, Matt Barkley & C.J. Beathard
Differing: None

Running Backs:
Agree: Carlos Hyde; Joe Williams & Matt Breida
Differing: Kapri Bibbs (NC) vs. Tim Hightower (AB)

Fullback:
Agree: Kyle Juszczyk
Differing: None

Tight Ends:
Agree: George Kittle & Cole Hikutini
Differing: Vance McDonald (NC) vs. Vance McDonald cut (AB) & Logan Paulsen (AB)

Wide Receivers:
Agree: Marquise Goodwin, Aldrick Robinson, Jeremy Kerley, Trent Taylor & Pierre Garçon
Differing: No 6th WR (NC) vs. B.J. Johnson III (AB)

Offensive Line:
Agree: Joe Staley, Joshua Garnett, Zane Beadles, Jeremy Zuttah, Daniel Kilgore, Brandon Fusco, Trenton Brown & Gary Gilliam
Differing: Tim Barnes (NC) vs. no 9th OL (AB)

Defensive End:
Agree: Arik Armstead, Aaron Lynch, Elvis Dumervil & Solomon Thomas
Differing: Tank Carradine & Pita Taumoepenu (NC) vs. No 5th or 6th DE/ER (AB)

Nose Tackle:
Agree: Earl Mitchell & D.J. Jones
Differing: None

Defensive Tackle:
Agree: DeForest Buckner & Ronald Blair
Differing: None

Outside Linebacker:
Agree: Malcolm Smith, Reuben Foster, Ray-Ray Armstrong & Dekoda Watson
Differing: Ahmad Brooks (NC) vs. no Ahmad Brooks (AB)

Middle Linebacker:
Agree: Navarro Bowman
Differing: No 2nd MLB (NC) vs. Brock Coyle (AB)

Cornerbacks:
Agree: Rashard Robinson, Dontae Johnson, Ahkello Witherspoon, K'Waun Williams & Will Redmond
Differing: None

Strong Safeties:
Agree: Eric Reid & Jaquiski Tartt
Differing: None

Free Safeties:
Agree: Jimmie Ward & Lorenzo Jerome
Differing: No 3rd FS (NC) vs. Don Jones (AB)

Special Teams:
Agree: Kyle Nelson, Robbie Gould & Bradley Pinion
Differing: None

Overall:
Agree: 47 of 53 = 89%
Differing: 6 of 53 = 11%

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Branch is high going with 10 LB's but only 3 safeties. I also don't see Blair or McDonald getting cut. You can't go with two rookies and a career blocking TE who is much older than either McDonald or Celek at TE.

Blair was pretty promising last year and this scheme is a better fit for him. I also don't expect them to go with 4 RB's when they already will have Juszczyk at fullback. Hyde, Williams and Breida IMO.

Good calls!

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Branch is high going with 10 LB's but only 3 safeties. I also don't see Blair or McDonald getting cut. You can't go with two rookies and a career blocking TE who is much older than either McDonald or Celek at TE.

Blair was pretty promising last year and this scheme is a better fit for him. I also don't expect them to go with 4 RB's when they already will have Juszczyk at fullback. Hyde, Williams and Breida IMO.

Totally...

I only have 4 because Bibbs is a returner and frees up Kerley from that job (Bibbs and Taylor).

Gotta love reading a thread only about football, by some posters that know the game. Come on preseason... I am more than ready. I. Say this often enough during a season, but thanks to all of you guys doing a good job here in this thread!

Originally posted by mojave45:
Gotta love reading a thread only about football, by some posters that know the game. Come on preseason... I am more than ready. I. Say this often enough during a season, but thanks to all of you guys doing a good job here in this thread!

+1

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Branch is high going with 10 LB's but only 3 safeties. I also don't see Blair or McDonald getting cut. You can't go with two rookies and a career blocking TE who is much older than either McDonald or Celek at TE.

Blair was pretty promising last year and this scheme is a better fit for him. I also don't expect them to go with 4 RB's when they already will have Juszczyk at fullback. Hyde, Williams and Breida IMO.

This. With Ward and Reid's injury history. No way they only keep three.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by ninerrgee:

Always on here reading your guys post, just thought I'd give my personal opinion on who is going to be on the 49ers roster come Week 1.
49ers Predicted 53 Man Roster

QB-Brian Hoyer, CJ Beathard- I personally don't like Matt Barkley and don't think he'll prove to be much better than CJ anyway.

RB- Carlos Hyde, Joe Williams, Matt Breida- I could see them keeping Bibbs as well but I feel these 3 are talented enough to run the rock any down.

FB-Juice

WR-Garçon, Goodwin, Kerley, Taylor, Victor Bolden, Aaron Burbridge- I feel the first 4 are locks and then it's pretty much a toss up but bolden & Aaron will be the ones to show up.
TE-Vance, Kittle, Cole Hikutini- Vance may drop some balls here and there but he's still a threat and he can block.

OT-Staley, Brown, Gilliam, Theus
Interior OL-Garnett,Kilgore, Zuttah, Fusco, Beadles- To me these are an easy pick,

DL- Buckner, Thomas, Armstead, Mitchell, Dumervil, Aaron Lynch, DJ jones, Blair, Dial- i wish we can keep everyone that we have for Dline but I can see Chris jones stealing a spot over dial

LBS-Bowman,Foster,Smith, brooks, Watson, Harold- most people think coyle can wrap up a spot, I just don't see it. Harold may finally be able to do some damage as a back up and I like Watson for ST

CBS-Robinson,Weatherspoon, Redmond, Williams, Johnson, Reaser- not much to say here I think these are the 6 guys that make sense

S-Ward,Reid, Jerome, Tartt, Colbert- huge fan of Jerome so I'm giving him a spot and Colbert is athletic as heck so maybe he can do well on ST

K/P/LS- Gould/Pinion/Nelson

Id be down for this but id like Robinson over Burbridge. I can see the youth factor and stealing the spot as a tough over the middle guy though. Gonna watch how he looks in pre-season. Hope to see him do something. Keep forgetting him in the group or kinda looked him off.

I feel that too, I'm excited for all the camp battles, I think some players may surprise us

Originally posted by NCommand:

Here you go AB...as expected, we agree on apx. 90% of the roster right out of the gate. I organized them by your position definitions to help cross referencing (I use different definitions).

Quarterbacks:
Agree: Brian Hoyer, Matt Barkley & C.J. Beathard
Differing: None

Running Backs:
Agree: Carlos Hyde; Joe Williams & Matt Breida
Differing: Kapri Bibbs (NC) vs. Tim Hightower (AB)

Fullback:
Agree: Kyle Juszczyk
Differing: None

Tight Ends:
Agree: George Kittle & Cole Hikutini
Differing: Vance McDonald (NC) vs. Vance McDonald cut (AB) & Logan Paulsen (AB)

Wide Receivers:
Agree: Marquise Goodwin, Aldrick Robinson, Jeremy Kerley, Trent Taylor & Pierre Garçon
Differing: No 6th WR (NC) vs. B.J. Johnson III (AB)

Offensive Line:
Agree: Joe Staley, Joshua Garnett, Zane Beadles, Jeremy Zuttah, Daniel Kilgore, Brandon Fusco, Trenton Brown & Gary Gilliam
Differing: Tim Barnes (NC) vs. no 9th OL (AB)

Defensive End:
Agree: Arik Armstead, Aaron Lynch, Elvis Dumervil & Solomon Thomas
Differing: Tank Carradine & Pita Taumoepenu (NC) vs. No 5th or 6th DE/ER (AB)

Nose Tackle:
Agree: Earl Mitchell & D.J. Jones
Differing: None

Defensive Tackle:
Agree: DeForest Buckner & Ronald Blair
Differing: None

Outside Linebacker:
Agree: Malcolm Smith, Reuben Foster, Ray-Ray Armstrong & Dekoda Watson
Differing: Ahmad Brooks (NC) vs. no Ahmad Brooks (AB)

Middle Linebacker:
Agree: Navarro Bowman
Differing: No 2nd MLB (NC) vs. Brock Coyle (AB)

Cornerbacks:
Agree: Rashard Robinson, Dontae Johnson, Ahkello Witherspoon, K'Waun Williams & Will Redmond
Differing: None

Strong Safeties:
Agree: Eric Reid & Jaquiski Tartt
Differing: None

Free Safeties:
Agree: Jimmie Ward & Lorenzo Jerome
Differing: No 3rd FS (NC) vs. Don Jones (AB)

Special Teams:
Agree: Kyle Nelson, Robbie Gould & Bradley Pinion
Differing: None

Overall:
Agree: 47 of 53 = 89%
Differing: 6 of 53 = 11%

The 89% looks awfully strong, My only differences from the 89%

Keep McD and Blair...both locks...as per PHX
Keep burbridge as a 6th WR. Really would like to see this kid play.
Definitely keep Pita
Same for Ahmed Brooks.
Tim Barnes....like the idea of a 9th OL, just wish i had seen more film of him. So +/- here altho like a 9th OL. If not him, then nobody else. We proved last two yrs, having backups who are crappy...oh, say Devey, Martin, and Pears.....is much worse than having nobody at all. If they are there, you are tempted to play them. And we never should have let those guys on the field.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

The 89% looks awfully strong, My only differences from the 89%

Keep McD and Blair...both locks...as per PHX
Keep burbridge as a 6th WR. Really would like to see this kid play.
Definitely keep Pita
Same for Ahmed Brooks.
Tim Barnes....like the idea of a 9th OL, just wish i had seen more film of him. So +/- here altho like a 9th OL. If not him, then nobody else. We proved last two yrs, having backups who are crappy...oh, say Devey, Martin, and Pears.....is much worse than having nobody at all. If they are there, you are tempted to play them. And we never should have let those guys on the field.

This cracked me up!