Predict 53 man Roster- 2017

Last year, everyone was fired up that Garrison Smith didn't make the final roster. I think it's likely the Seahawks cut him and I'm not even sure he would make the Niners' 53 this year.

I got an even 25-25 split on the 53. The other 3 are P,K and LS.
I think we carry 3 QB,3 WR,6WR,4 TE&8 OL,1 FB.

Originally posted by reasonable1:
QB:
Hoyer
Barkley
Beathard

RB/FB:
Hyde
Williams
Juzcyzk
Brieda
Bibbs

WR:
Garcon
Goodwin
Kerley
Taylor
Smelter
Johnson

TE:
Kittle
McDonald
Paulsen
Hukutini

OL:
Staley
Brown
Garnett
Zuttah
Kilgore
Fusco
Magnusson
Theus
Gilliam or Beadles (one will be cut)

DL:
Buckner
Armstead
Lynch
Dumervil
Dial
Mitchell
DJ Jones
Blair
Thomas

LB:
Bowman
Foster
Smith
Armstrong
Brooks
Harold

CB:
Robinson
Reaser
Johnson
Witherspoon
Redmond
Williams

S:
Ward
Reid
Tartt
Jerome

K:
Gould

P:
Pinion

Disagree on the following.

Smelter over Robinson, Robinson knows the system, and Smelter has done nothing yet in his career to justify being on the 53 man roster.
No way either Beadles or Gilliam are cut, Beadles can play 3 spots on the OL, while Gilliam got $1.25M GTD, and turned down a multi year deal offer sheet from us
Watson makes it, same for Coyle, they both know Saleh's system
Also Kyle Nelson will be our LS

I just don't see guys we signed in the first week of FA being cut, they coveted guys like Watson, Paulsen, Robinson, Jones, Coyle, etc... I don't see them getting cut.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Disagree on the following.

Smelter over Robinson, Robinson knows the system, and Smelter has done nothing yet in his career to justify being on the 53 man roster.
No way either Beadles or Gilliam are cut, Beadles can play 3 spots on the OL, while Gilliam got $1.25M GTD, and turned down a multi year deal offer sheet from us
Watson makes it, same for Coyle, they both know Saleh's system
Also Kyle Nelson will be our LS

I just don't see guys we signed in the first week of FA being cut, they coveted guys like Watson, Paulsen, Robinson, Jones, Coyle, etc... I don't see them getting cut.

And was that 54 players?

Honestly, this might be the hardest 53 man roster to predict since I could remember..Lynch and Shanahan have done a great job bringing in players that will compete to their fullest and make a lot of decisions tough..my fav competition is either at the TE position where I think the niners have 2 potential steals in Kittle and Hikutini and at the LEO position on the D-Line between Lynch, Dumerville, Tank and Pita..only means the depth with those 2 positions will be strong..

Cohn still banging that Bowman will be cut drum on his new roster prediction. Also has Lynch, McDonald and Dial being cut.

I think Dial or Kilgore are the most likely veterans they may be cut.

Updated roster with reasonings, plus Practice Squad.

53-Man Roster:

1. QB 2 Brian Hoyer (Was given a 2yr deal, with a lot of GTD money to be the starter)
2. QB 7 Matt Barkley (I can see them letting go of Barkley if he looks horrible, and Beathard outshines him)
3. QB 3 C.J. Beathard (Barring CJ looking better than Barkley, he will be the #3 QB and Inactive)
4. RB 28 Carlos Hyde (A lock to me, he has looked good in the offseason, will be a great tandem with Williams)
5. RB 32 Joe Williams (As with Hyde, Williams is a lock, he will be the #2 back in Kyle Shanahan's 2 Back System)
6. RB 22 Tim Hightower or RB 26 Kapri Bibbs (I can't decide on which, Hightower has played for Kyle, while Bibbs was a guy Lynch wanted, but Kyle has final say on the 53, but that doesn't mean Lynch won't make his voice heard, I would love for them to keep all 5 backs plus Juszcyzk)
7. RB 49 Matt Breida (If he plays well in preseason, there is no way he makes it past waivers)
8. FB 44 Kyle Jusczyck (Brought in to be more than a FB, paid a lot of money, but well deserving of it)
9. WR 15 Pierre Garcon (Our #1 WR, given over $10M Fully GTD)
10. WR 11 Marquise Goodwin (#2 WR opposite Garcon)
11. WR 17 Jeremy Kerley (Slot WR)
12. WR 19 Aldrick Robinson (Knows KS's system)
13. WR 81 Trent Taylor (#5 WR and likely Return Man)
14. WR 83 B.J. Johnson III (For now he gets the #6 WR slot, inactive, but I can see someone else grabbing this spot, either Bourne, Bolden, Burbridge or Carter)
15. TE 85 George Kittle (I view him as a the #1 TE with McDonald cut)
16. TE 82 Logan Paulsen (#2 TE, knows KS's system)
17. TE 46 Cole Hikutini (#3 TE, has $100K GTD, won't pass waivers)
18. C 58 Jeremy Zuttah (Starter at C)
19. C 67 Daniel Kilgore (Backup C, plus backups at both OG spots)
20. LG 68 Zane Beadles (Starter at LG, plus backup at C and LT)
21. LG 63 Brandon Fusco (#8 OL kept, depth in case of any injuries, likely Inactive on gamedays)
22. RG 65 Joshua Garnett (Starting RG)
23. LT 74 Joe Staley (Starting LT)
24. RT 77 Trent Brown (Starter at RT for now, battles with Gilliam)
25. RT 76 Garry Gilliam (Battles with Brown for RT spot, likely Swing OT, won't be cut, got $1.25M GTD, after turning down a multi year offer sheet with us)
26. DE 94 Solomon Thomas (Starts at the Big End Spot)
27. DE 91 Arik Armstead (Can play Big End, DT, and being used at LEO spot)
28. DE 58 Elvis Dumervil (Should be our primary pass rusher at LEO spot)
29. DE 59 Aaron Lynch (For now he makes it, with guys like Pita Taumoepenu on the outside looking)
30. DT 99 DeForest Buckner (Starting DT, can play Big End Spot)
31. DT 98 Ronald Blair (Can play Big End, and DT spots, I can see Chris Jones getting the spot, as he can also play both Big End and DT)
32. NT 90 Earl Mitchell (Got a lot of GTD money plus was Lynch's guy he wanted to entire time)
33. NT 96 D.J. Jones (The only other true NT besides Mitchell)
34. OLB 51 Malcolm Smith (Likely starter at WILL LB spot)
35. OLB 55 Ahmad Brooks (Likely starts at SAM LB Spot)
36. OLB 56 Reuben Foster (Backup at WILL)
37. OLB 97 Dekoda Watson (Backup at SAM, knows Saleh's system, plus key ST'er)
38. OLB 54 Ray-Ray Armstrong (backup at WILL and MIKE LB spots)
39. MLB 53 NaVorro Bowman (Not getting cut, don't buy Grant Cohn's bs for one second)
40. MLB 50 Brock Coyle (He knows Saleh's system, backup at MIKE LB, and key ST'er)
41. CB 33 Rashard Robinson (Our #1 CB, looking like a stud in the making, really could end up being the steal of the draft behind Dak in 2016)
42. CB 41 Ahkello Witherspoon (My #2 CB, he might not start from the beginning, but he should end up there in no time)
43. CB 24 K'Wuan Williams (Slot CB IMO)
44. CB 23 Will Redmond (Backup Slot CB, might be inactive on gamedays to begin)
45. CB 36 Dontae Johnson and/or CB 27 Keith Reaser (I don't think either are locks anymore, but this is tough, both got first team snaps this offseason, I like both, if possible, I'd keep both)
46. FS 25 Jimmie Ward (Starter at FS, plus can play CB if needed)
47. FS 20 Don Jones (Key ST'er, backup FS, has looked good in offseason so far as a DB)
48. FS 49 Lorenzo Jerome (Backup FS, also Slot CB, should be active, maybe over Tartt, and Redmond due to being able to play FS, Slot, and I think he can play SS too)
49. SS 35 Eric Reid (Starting SS, Fully GTD Salary on his Fifth Year Option)
50. SS 29 Jaquiski Tartt (Backup SS, I can see him being a inactive, or even out, I don't see a spot where he fits best, he has always seemed like a tweener to me, If I was making the roster, I'd cut or trade Tartt in favor of both Johnson and Reaser, plus Jones)
51. PK 9 Robbie Gould (Nick Rose is just a camp leg)
52. P 5 Bradley Pinion (No other P in camp)
53. LS 86 Kyle Nelson (Not other LS in camp)

Practice Squad:

1. QB 1 Nick Mullens
2. FB 47 Tyler McCloskey
3. WR 1 Victor Bolden
4. WR 6 Kendrick Bourne
5. OG 62 Erik Magnuson
6. OT 75 Darrell Williams
7. DE 66 Noble Nwachukwu
8. OLB 47 Jimmie Gilbert
9. OLB 48 Donavin Newsom
10. CB 38 Adrian Colbert

Of these, Mullens has a $18K base guarantee, McCloskey $5K, Bolden $35K, Bourne $20K, Magnuson $10K, Williams $5K, Nwachukwu $20K, Gilbert $50K, and Newsom likely has some too, while Colbert is the odd man out. No Taumoepenu due to the fact I see him not clearing waivers, if he does, than he makes it onto the PSquad for me, over either McCloskey or Newsom.

Cuts:

1. RB 31 Raheem Mostert (Odd man on the squad, could be PSquad if we decide we want one)
2. WR 14 DeAndre Carter (Could sneak into the 6th WR spot)
3. WR 10 Bruce Ellington (Has had 2 major injuries, unless he rebounds, he's gone)
4. WR 13 Aaron Burbrudge (My toughest WR cut, he catches everything)
5. WR 18 DeAndre Smelter (Has done nothing yet to show me he deserves a spot over more deserving guys, and a guy who knows the system in Aldrick Robinson)
6. TE 89 Vance McDonald (This could go either way, I'd cut him)
7. TE 88 Garrett Celek (He could sneak onto the roster as a 4th TE, since Shanahan likes him, but for me, he's cut for now)
8. TE 84 Blake Bell (No room for Bell)
9. C 61 Tim Barnes (Could be brought back after week 1 when his base salary won't be fully GTD)
10. OG 60 John Flynn (Camp G for now)
11. OG 69 Richard Levy (Camp G for now)
12. OT 78 Norman Price (Camp T for now)
13. OT 64 Andrew Lauderdale (Camp T for now)
14. OT 71 John Theus (Odd man out at Tackle)
15. DE 95 Tank Carradine (Despite being #1 Big End this offseason, I don't see him making it)
16. DE 45 Pita Taumoepenu (Odd man out, unless Aaron Lynch looks horrible)
17. DT 93 Chris Jones (Out for now, could make it over Blair)
18. NT 92 Quinton Dial (Odd man out for now, not really a true NT)
19. OLB 57 Eli Harold (Odd man out at SAM LB spot)
20. CB 31 Zach Franklin (Camp CB body)
21. CB 30 Prince Charles Iworah (Camp CB body, maybe PSquader)
22. CB 4 Will Davis (Could be brought back after week 1 when his deal won't be fully GTD)
23. SS 40 Vinnie Sunseri (Camp S)
24. SS 43 Chanceller James (Camp S)
25. PK 6 Nick Rose (Camp Leg)

I agree with a lot of your roster moves AB, I just don't see how Pita doesn't make your PS over a bunch of UDFA's. I also don't see McDonald getting cut, traded perhaps, but not cut. RB is where it's kind of fishy, I like Hyde+Williams as a 1-2 punch, the thing that kind of sucks is that some of the FA's we brought in, become some what un-needed after the draft. Like M.Smith, Not having him right now, would have Foster starting, and more money for us going forward. Hightower is another, although he could be traded, saving us an extra 150,000 due to his base salary guarantee. I'm sure a team might give us a 7th for Hightower, but if not, we can just cut him, and let Breida be the 3rd RB and Bibbs on the PS.

Originally posted by Bobdawg78:

I agree with a lot of your roster moves AB, I just don't see how Pita doesn't make your PS over a bunch of UDFA's. I also don't see McDonald getting cut, traded perhaps, but not cut. RB is where it's kind of fishy, I like Hyde+Williams as a 1-2 punch, the thing that kind of sucks is that some of the FA's we brought in, become some what un-needed after the draft. Like M.Smith, Not having him right now, would have Foster starting, and more money for us going forward. Hightower is another, although he could be traded, saving us an extra 150,000 due to his base salary guarantee. I'm sure a team might give us a 7th for Hightower, but if not, we can just cut him, and let Breida be the 3rd RB and Bibbs on the PS.

Wait you think Malcom smith gets cut? I don't see that happening at all

No, not saying M. Smith gets cut, not at all. I was just pointing out that if we knew what we would have gotten in the draft, that Smith+Hightower wouldn't have been signed, and perhaps a couple others, but it is what it is. Smith can mentor Foster, and if Foster eventually takes over, Smith can provide great depth.

Personally I'd like to see Reid+Celek+Bell traded away for the best draft pick we can get for each one. Bell might not net us anything, but perhaps a 2019 7th? Better than nothing. I can't see McDonald getting cut though, he's easily a top 3 TE with us.

Some of these guys need to step up and make a play in preseason so I can remember their names.

People keep talking about the 3 ST's they signed early, Watson, Coyle and Jones. I would hate if they bumped out a kid that has potential at a position.

I do think all three incumbent TE's are at risk, Even guys like Harold, Tank and Ray Ray could be on the edge. I would like Blair, Jones and Jerome to make the team.

Originally posted by kirkscrafford:

People keep talking about the 3 ST's they signed early, Watson, Coyle and Jones. I would hate if they bumped out a kid that has potential at a position.

I do think all three incumbent TE's are at risk, Even guys like Harold, Tank and Ray Ray could be on the edge. I would like Blair, Jones and Jerome to make the team.

I want the first two gone along with Paulsen by the time week 1 arrives.

People are acting like those guys are Garcon , i think they more so here to teach the system and if its close with a young guy they better get the boot lol.

I agree that if it comes to keeping Paulsen or McDonald, it would be smarter to keep McDonald. McDonald is a better TE, and cutting hm would give us a negative cap hit. Cutting Paulsen would actually give us SAVINGS, and last I checked all Paulsen is good for is blocking, and McDonald is pretty good at that, and McDonald also is developing his pass catching game.