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Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
So you agree your argument doesn't address the beating we took at home? Or do you have a separate argument for that loss? Because that was a f**king beating as well, even if you don't think it was nearly as bad.

I didn't say you identified it as the 'only' difference, but your post gave me the strong impression you think it was the 'primary' difference (as I said in my post). Your analysis really centered on that, seemingly to the exclusion of other factors. I strongly disagree with that take. Yes, Seattle has the ability to snowball leads into blowouts based on building momentum, but talent and scheme often put them in that position in the first place. The kickoff return TD was brutal and fluky in my opinion, and we never had momentum after that. However, even without that kickoff return, I think they still kill us in that game.

By the time the Niners/Seahawks met at the end of the season, the Niners roster had been wiped out by injury. There is simply no way around that. The only time they met last year when both teams were similar healthwise, the 49ers beat the Seahawks...IN Seattle. Secondly, you don't seem to put ANY emphasis on hype/momentum/etc....even when I've given examples. Again, all one has to do is look at when SF and Sea were battling a decade plus ago, in 2012 and 2013. The Seahawks completely destroyed SF in Seattle, yet lost both times in San Francisco. Seattle has a major home field advantage, especially night games, and when they can dominate up front defensively. It's a clear advantage at the LOS...a recipe for disaster.

Given that SF brought a pre-season squad to the playoff game....

I literally acknowledged momentum matters in my initial post. I also acknowledged injuries. I get the impression you're not reading, which is fine. Your argument isn't very compelling on its face, so happy to disengage here.
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by dj43:
I agree improved Safety play is important. However, we have two young guys (Sigle and Mustapha) back there that have shown promise but limited by injuries. They have physical tools but need time and training. Brown is good in run support but needs better cover skills.

What we need is a true Free Safety type. Our problem is we have all Strong Safeties (like John Lynch). We need a ball hawk back there. There are a couple in the draft.

CB is not a disaster but need better coaching, IMO. Lenoir had a down year. Green didn't continue development (injury?) like we hoped. Stout showed excellent progress as a rookie but mad rookie mistakes.

In summary, yes, go after secondary help. It is a strong need. I believe OSA and Greenlaw, along with a healthy Warner, will relieve sum pressure on the secondary and allow it to play better. I just don't see that need as as great a need as the OL where we saw CMC shut down so often and Purdy with pressure in his face to often it changed the entire offense.

Mustspha is awful in coverage. Hes not gonna get any better imo. Be great if Sigle turns into something but I don't see that being any different than hoping Colby does. Brown is also an awful tackler. Bad Lb and S play is the reason we couldn't get stops against Seattle in run game.

I don't remember Purdy facing so much pressure in his face against Philly and their d line. I do remember Mustapha being abused by Goedert though.

9ers have 4 functional starters on the O line and 1 1/2 in the secondary counting Stout. I just don't see how it's even particularly close.

9ers can't cover JSN or Shaheed any better than they can block Leonard Williams. Problem is the dbs can't cover mediocre Titans or Saints receivers either.

I'm more hopeful on this front than you. I think this is where injuries hit us hardest last season, as we had no pass rush. Every secondary will break down if there's no pressure. If our horses come back healthy, this issue is less concerning.

OL issues are helped by quick processors in the pocket, quick separators on routes, and scheme. We already had two of those when Seattle smacked us last season, and we don't know yet if the additions at WR will give us the third. However, I'm somewhat doubtful (even though I like the new WR deals).

Edit: You can focus on the Philly game to support the argument that our OL is fine if you want, but I think both Seattle games, including the game that ended our season, are more compelling examples to evaluate.
[ Edited by VinculumJuris on Mar 25, 2026 at 12:37 PM ]
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
I literally acknowledged momentum matters in my initial post. I also acknowledged injuries. I get the impression you're not reading, which is fine. Your argument isn't very compelling on its face, so happy to disengage here.

I believe the argument is sound, based on fact. There is simply overwhelming evidence to support that. Agree to disagree.
Originally posted by Heroism:
A lot of posts in here and not a single one explaining how this won't happen against next year. The fact that Brock wasn't injured in these games is miraculous in itself. I feel like people forgot how bad it looked or something. Maybe you guys need to see clips from the game again:



Poor Brock.

So by this logic we should have seen Brock get taken out again by PHI in the playoffs again.
Originally posted by Heroism:
A lot of posts in here and not a single one explaining how this won't happen against next year. The fact that Brock wasn't injured in these games is miraculous in itself. I feel like people forgot how bad it looked or something. Maybe you guys need to see clips from the game again:



Poor Brock.

I swear people casually forget about the last two games against Seattle and how terrible that offense looked. They literally couldn't do anything at all. The OL is a major problem and if you take Trent away.. Purdy might die.
[ Edited by ninersrule4 on Mar 25, 2026 at 12:59 PM ]
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
I swear people casually forget about the last two games against Seattle and how terrible that offense looked. They literally couldn't do anything at all. The OL is a major problem and if you take Trent away.. Purdy might die.

I think the offseason has lulled people into a false sense of security. People must have forgotten the image of Brock on the floor writhing in pain after being crushed by multiple Seahawks players.
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
I'm more hopeful on this front than you. I think this is where injuries hit us hardest last season, as we had no pass rush. Every secondary will break down if there's no pressure. If our horses come back healthy, this issue is less concerning.

OL issues are helped by quick processors in the pocket, quick separators on routes, and scheme. We already had two of those when Seattle smacked us last season, and we don't know yet if the additions at WR will give us the third. However, I'm somewhat doubtful (even though I like the new WR deals).

Edit: You can focus on the Philly game to support the argument that our OL is fine if you want, but I think both Seattle games, including the game that ended our season, are more compelling examples to evaluate.

I didnt say it was fine. Just that its not the biggest issue. Philly is as talented as Seattle up front and the 9ers were able to handle them well. Its an issue but not the biggest.

Again 4 functional starters vs 1 1/2.

This secondary cant contain Seattle's weapons as it stands even with a pass rush.
The 49ers and Rams will open their season with a 15000 mile road trip. Meanwhile the Seahawks get to open at home that same week. Kyle and Sean McVay must be loving that.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
I'm more hopeful on this front than you. I think this is where injuries hit us hardest last season, as we had no pass rush. Every secondary will break down if there's no pressure. If our horses come back healthy, this issue is less concerning.

OL issues are helped by quick processors in the pocket, quick separators on routes, and scheme. We already had two of those when Seattle smacked us last season, and we don't know yet if the additions at WR will give us the third. However, I'm somewhat doubtful (even though I like the new WR deals).

Edit: You can focus on the Philly game to support the argument that our OL is fine if you want, but I think both Seattle games, including the game that ended our season, are more compelling examples to evaluate.

I didnt say it was fine. Just that its not the biggest issue. Philly is as talented as Seattle up front and the 9ers were able to handle them well. Its an issue but not the biggest.

Again 4 functional starters vs 1 1/2.

This secondary cant contain Seattle's weapons as it stands even with a pass rush.
In week one, they did a pretty decent job with a pass rush. Njigba put up some decent yds, but no TDs were scored. I do think we need to upgrade the FS position, but a bulked up rush can cover a lot of secondary woes.
Originally posted by zeppfan1:
In week one, they did a pretty decent job with a pass rush. Njigba put up some decent yds, but no TDs were scored. I do think we need to upgrade the FS position, but a bulked up rush can cover a lot of secondary woes.

They didnt have Shaheed and Njigba didn't have the chemistry with Darnold yet.

Look how they wrecked the Rams in the playoffs and they have an elite pass rush. Rams were smart enough to prioritize the secondary and not just try and run it back.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Mar 25, 2026 at 2:38 PM ]
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
I swear people casually forget about the last two games against Seattle and how terrible that offense looked. They literally couldn't do anything at all. The OL is a major problem and if you take Trent away.. Purdy might die.

I didn't forget. It was crap. I hate this front office. I don't wanna watch them totally f**k up the best 49ers qb in decades. I almost wanna skip out on watching games this season cause I don't wanna see this. Lynch annoys the crud out of me. He always looks like his head is in the clouds. I just can't.
I am still with the philosophy of killing the QB. I want to beef up our pass rush in order to murder every QB we face starting with Stafford
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
I swear people casually forget about the last two games against Seattle and how terrible that offense looked. They literally couldn't do anything at all. The OL is a major problem and if you take Trent away.. Purdy might die.

I didn't forget. It was crap. I hate this front office. I don't wanna watch them totally f**k up the best 49ers qb in decades. I almost wanna skip out on watching games this season cause I don't wanna see this. Lynch annoys the crud out of me. He always looks like his head is in the clouds. I just can't.

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Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I am still with the philosophy of killing the QB. I want to beef up our pass rush in order to murder every QB we face starting with Stafford

We don't good enough depth if some our DL players go to prison.
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