49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by FanInFlorida:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Silky:
Hmmm that's a good point. Never thought of that. Makes what the Pats did over 20 years all the more impressive

It is impressive, but there's also a flip side. It is harder for other organizations to build a team that can compensate for not having the GOAT coach and QB as the foundation of their success.

We've seen teams go on runs in the salary cap era that are longer/more sustained than in previous times (not counting the wooden rings and leather helmet days). For example, the Pats' streak of 8 straight championship game appearances and the Chiefs' 7.

Totally agree. If you have the best GM/HC/QB combo in the NFL, you'll have an advantage over the other 31 teams. If you also hit on a draft or two on defense, then you'll be dominant for an extended period of time. It's difficult for the other teams to catch up solely using the draft, so they would have to spend big in free agency to close the gap. If you limit how much they can spend, the top team will remain there for a long time (until another team hits on their QB and their draft).

If there was a salary cap in 94, we probably wouldn't have won the SB and the Cowboys probably would've won 3 straight. Not having a salary cap allows the teams behind the top dawg to close the gap.

There was a cap in 94. It was the first year it was implemented and we won the SB babiee.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
You get rid of them by ignoring them. You state they are trolls....so why even respond?

I've generally watched these select bunch when it comes to Shanahan's tenure here and how they can't wait for its end....and the reasonings are so beyond ridiculous, that I have little to no interest in participating:

'We could hire a good young coach like Philip Rivers.'

'Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marino, it's all about championships.'

'We we're 12-5...but we should blow it up and start again.'

'You love finishing in 2nd place.'

I can tell you these comments are from a seemingly young bunch who never saw any 49er Super Bowl win, and most weren't even alive in Jan. 1995. I group them with swifties....their opinions are rather irrelevant. Trolling or idiocy, I don't care...they generally don't deserve attention.

Kyle Shanahan is a top 5 type HC in the NFL. He has flaws...they all do. Some day, his run will end, and even if his time doesn't bring a SB, while I would be disappointed, I'll still be thankful because this franchise was on the edge of a cliff that leads to irrevancy and snicker....and his presence prevented that. I'll enjoy his run, because SF has a real legit shot with him at the controls. It would be nice if a little luck broke his way.

Not going to provide details but it's telling who the most ignored posters are on this forum.

I know it's my fault for not being able to let some of these things go unchecked. I've always been bothered at how misinformation spreads simply because it goes unchecked but you're right it fuels the fire.

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by FanInFlorida:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Silky:
Hmmm that's a good point. Never thought of that. Makes what the Pats did over 20 years all the more impressive

It is impressive, but there's also a flip side. It is harder for other organizations to build a team that can compensate for not having the GOAT coach and QB as the foundation of their success.

We've seen teams go on runs in the salary cap era that are longer/more sustained than in previous times (not counting the wooden rings and leather helmet days). For example, the Pats' streak of 8 straight championship game appearances and the Chiefs' 7.

Totally agree. If you have the best GM/HC/QB combo in the NFL, you'll have an advantage over the other 31 teams. If you also hit on a draft or two on defense, then you'll be dominant for an extended period of time. It's difficult for the other teams to catch up solely using the draft, so they would have to spend big in free agency to close the gap. If you limit how much they can spend, the top team will remain there for a long time (until another team hits on their QB and their draft).

If there was a salary cap in 94, we probably wouldn't have won the SB and the Cowboys probably would've won 3 straight. Not having a salary cap allows the teams behind the top dawg to close the gap.

There was a cap in 94. It was the first year it was implemented and we won the SB babiee.

Elway was the highest paid QB in 1994 at $4.6 million. Today there are 16 making more than $40 million and 11 making over $50 million. The cap was $34 million in 1994 but that went a lot further than it does now. The Niners were able to sign some vets that were looking for a chance to win a SB for $1-$2 million. The average player was making about $628,000 per year.

The Pats were very fortunate during their run because their division was notoriously weak during most of that time. It was almost automatic that they would be home for most of the playoffs.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Time to get rid of the few minority trolls, too many good posters have stopped posting bc of these trolls

They get so much attention here that they will continue with their shtick. I'm sure they've tried on Twitter or Reddit, but it just doesn't stick so they come back here.

David isn't gonna get mad bc of few of them are gone. And either way, they will just make new accounts anyways.

You get rid of them by ignoring them. You state they are trolls....so why even respond?

I've generally watched these select bunch when it comes to Shanahan's tenure here and how they can't wait for its end....and the reasonings are so beyond ridiculous, that I have little to no interest in participating:

'We could hire a good young coach like Philip Rivers.'

'Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marino, it's all about championships.'

'We we're 12-5...but we should blow it up and start again.'

'You love finishing in 2nd place.'

I can tell you these comments are from a seemingly young bunch who never saw any 49er Super Bowl win, and most weren't even alive in Jan. 1995. I group them with swifties....their opinions are rather irrelevant. Trolling or idiocy, I don't care...they generally don't deserve attention.

Kyle Shanahan is a top 5 type HC in the NFL. He has flaws...they all do. Some day, his run will end, and even if his time doesn't bring a SB, while I would be disappointed, I'll still be thankful because this franchise was on the edge of a cliff that leads to irrevancy and snicker....and his presence prevented that. I'll enjoy his run, because SF has a real legit shot with him at the controls. It would be nice if a little luck broke his way.

Ha! Well said

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by FanInFlorida:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Silky:
Hmmm that's a good point. Never thought of that. Makes what the Pats did over 20 years all the more impressive

It is impressive, but there's also a flip side. It is harder for other organizations to build a team that can compensate for not having the GOAT coach and QB as the foundation of their success.

We've seen teams go on runs in the salary cap era that are longer/more sustained than in previous times (not counting the wooden rings and leather helmet days). For example, the Pats' streak of 8 straight championship game appearances and the Chiefs' 7.

Totally agree. If you have the best GM/HC/QB combo in the NFL, you'll have an advantage over the other 31 teams. If you also hit on a draft or two on defense, then you'll be dominant for an extended period of time. It's difficult for the other teams to catch up solely using the draft, so they would have to spend big in free agency to close the gap. If you limit how much they can spend, the top team will remain there for a long time (until another team hits on their QB and their draft).

If there was a salary cap in 94, we probably wouldn't have won the SB and the Cowboys probably would've won 3 straight. Not having a salary cap allows the teams behind the top dawg to close the gap.

There was a cap in 94. It was the first year it was implemented and we won the SB babiee.

Ha, I thought it was the year after. How the heck did we sign all of those players for that run in 94?

Originally posted by FanInFlorida:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by FanInFlorida:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Silky:
Hmmm that's a good point. Never thought of that. Makes what the Pats did over 20 years all the more impressive

It is impressive, but there's also a flip side. It is harder for other organizations to build a team that can compensate for not having the GOAT coach and QB as the foundation of their success.

We've seen teams go on runs in the salary cap era that are longer/more sustained than in previous times (not counting the wooden rings and leather helmet days). For example, the Pats' streak of 8 straight championship game appearances and the Chiefs' 7.

Totally agree. If you have the best GM/HC/QB combo in the NFL, you'll have an advantage over the other 31 teams. If you also hit on a draft or two on defense, then you'll be dominant for an extended period of time. It's difficult for the other teams to catch up solely using the draft, so they would have to spend big in free agency to close the gap. If you limit how much they can spend, the top team will remain there for a long time (until another team hits on their QB and their draft).

If there was a salary cap in 94, we probably wouldn't have won the SB and the Cowboys probably would've won 3 straight. Not having a salary cap allows the teams behind the top dawg to close the gap.

There was a cap in 94. It was the first year it was implemented and we won the SB babiee.

Ha, I thought it was the year after. How the heck did we sign all of those players for that run in 94?

I'm sure there were unrecorded deals done.

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by FanInFlorida:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Silky:
Hmmm that's a good point. Never thought of that. Makes what the Pats did over 20 years all the more impressive

It is impressive, but there's also a flip side. It is harder for other organizations to build a team that can compensate for not having the GOAT coach and QB as the foundation of their success.

We've seen teams go on runs in the salary cap era that are longer/more sustained than in previous times (not counting the wooden rings and leather helmet days). For example, the Pats' streak of 8 straight championship game appearances and the Chiefs' 7.

Totally agree. If you have the best GM/HC/QB combo in the NFL, you'll have an advantage over the other 31 teams. If you also hit on a draft or two on defense, then you'll be dominant for an extended period of time. It's difficult for the other teams to catch up solely using the draft, so they would have to spend big in free agency to close the gap. If you limit how much they can spend, the top team will remain there for a long time (until another team hits on their QB and their draft).

If there was a salary cap in 94, we probably wouldn't have won the SB and the Cowboys probably would've won 3 straight. Not having a salary cap allows the teams behind the top dawg to close the gap.

There was a cap in 94. It was the first year it was implemented and we won the SB babiee.

Quick let's pretend 49ers didn't get hit for cheating the salary cap lol. Just because it started in 94 doesn't mean it played a factor at all in 94.

Reality is we won the SB with the bulk of the players we had before that year - brought in Deion, some others and then couldn't keep him to keep things going. You think we'd let Sanders walk if the cap wasn't a thing then?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by FanInFlorida:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Silky:
Hmmm that's a good point. Never thought of that. Makes what the Pats did over 20 years all the more impressive

It is impressive, but there's also a flip side. It is harder for other organizations to build a team that can compensate for not having the GOAT coach and QB as the foundation of their success.

We've seen teams go on runs in the salary cap era that are longer/more sustained than in previous times (not counting the wooden rings and leather helmet days). For example, the Pats' streak of 8 straight championship game appearances and the Chiefs' 7.

Totally agree. If you have the best GM/HC/QB combo in the NFL, you'll have an advantage over the other 31 teams. If you also hit on a draft or two on defense, then you'll be dominant for an extended period of time. It's difficult for the other teams to catch up solely using the draft, so they would have to spend big in free agency to close the gap. If you limit how much they can spend, the top team will remain there for a long time (until another team hits on their QB and their draft).

If there was a salary cap in 94, we probably wouldn't have won the SB and the Cowboys probably would've won 3 straight. Not having a salary cap allows the teams behind the top dawg to close the gap.

There was a cap in 94. It was the first year it was implemented and we won the SB babiee.

Quick let's pretend 49ers didn't get hit for cheating the salary cap lol. Just because it started in 94 doesn't mean it played a factor at all in 94.

Reality is we won the SB with the bulk of the players we had before that year - brought in Deion, some others and then couldn't keep him to keep things going. You think we'd let Sanders walk if the cap wasn't a thing then?

Man we would have 7 chips if the salary cap waited just a few more years

Originally posted by Young2Owens:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by FanInFlorida:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Silky:
Hmmm that's a good point. Never thought of that. Makes what the Pats did over 20 years all the more impressive

It is impressive, but there's also a flip side. It is harder for other organizations to build a team that can compensate for not having the GOAT coach and QB as the foundation of their success.

We've seen teams go on runs in the salary cap era that are longer/more sustained than in previous times (not counting the wooden rings and leather helmet days). For example, the Pats' streak of 8 straight championship game appearances and the Chiefs' 7.

Totally agree. If you have the best GM/HC/QB combo in the NFL, you'll have an advantage over the other 31 teams. If you also hit on a draft or two on defense, then you'll be dominant for an extended period of time. It's difficult for the other teams to catch up solely using the draft, so they would have to spend big in free agency to close the gap. If you limit how much they can spend, the top team will remain there for a long time (until another team hits on their QB and their draft).

If there was a salary cap in 94, we probably wouldn't have won the SB and the Cowboys probably would've won 3 straight. Not having a salary cap allows the teams behind the top dawg to close the gap.

There was a cap in 94. It was the first year it was implemented and we won the SB babiee.

Quick let's pretend 49ers didn't get hit for cheating the salary cap lol. Just because it started in 94 doesn't mean it played a factor at all in 94.

Reality is we won the SB with the bulk of the players we had before that year - brought in Deion, some others and then couldn't keep him to keep things going. You think we'd let Sanders walk if the cap wasn't a thing then?

Man we would have 7 chips if the salary cap waited just a few more years

The Niners could have had 11 right now. They really stubbed their toe in the plyoffs against the Vikings when they were 11 point favorites. They got hosed with a holding penalty against Lott in the plyoffs against the Redskins that allowed the skins to kick a game winning FG. Then we had the Craig fumble against the Giants when they were trying to 3 peat. Finally we had the 3 recent SB games where the Niners were in great position to win each of them.

At the very least they should have 8 right now.