49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by genus49:
Not a flex, a reminder.

Your whole thing is "if the owners hears enough from the fans he'll make changes"

So you're barking to nobody who cares. Now eventually IF Kyle loses the team or actually shows he's getting worse at his job then the majority will move Jed.

Right now all you're doing is yapping about the past and accomplishing nothing but annoying the majority of the fans here. And when you play the whole "I shall not be silenced" thing like you're some kind of martyr, I'm just reminding you that Jed York does not care.

But this is the problem. The majority is now content with being minorly competitive with the hope of competing n a given year. And York is happy with that. They've become content. And that's a huge problem for this franchise, especially with its history.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by genus49:
Not a flex, a reminder.

Your whole thing is "if the owners hears enough from the fans he'll make changes"

So you're barking to nobody who cares. Now eventually IF Kyle loses the team or actually shows he's getting worse at his job then the majority will move Jed.

Right now all you're doing is yapping about the past and accomplishing nothing but annoying the majority of the fans here. And when you play the whole "I shall not be silenced" thing like you're some kind of martyr, I'm just reminding you that Jed York does not care.

But this is the problem. The majority is now content with being minorly competitive with the hope of competing n a given year. And York is happy with that. They've become content. And that's a huge problem for this franchise, especially with its history.

How do you know that Jed is content with just being competitive? I'm sure he wants a SB trophy but what more can he do. They spend money on players. They got a new stadium built. They have one of the top coaches in the league. I suppose he could fire Lynch if he believes he doesn't know what he's doing ( I doubt that). If he did is there any guarantee that another GM would do a better job?

I'm fine with Jed. I know a lot of people think he should be more like Eddie D but that ship has sailed. Even Eddie couldn't be Eddie in today's world.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by genus49:
Not a flex, a reminder.

Your whole thing is "if the owners hears enough from the fans he'll make changes"

So you're barking to nobody who cares. Now eventually IF Kyle loses the team or actually shows he's getting worse at his job then the majority will move Jed.

Right now all you're doing is yapping about the past and accomplishing nothing but annoying the majority of the fans here. And when you play the whole "I shall not be silenced" thing like you're some kind of martyr, I'm just reminding you that Jed York does not care.

But this is the problem. The majority is now content with being minorly competitive with the hope of competing n a given year. And York is happy with that. They've become content. And that's a huge problem for this franchise, especially with its history.

How do you know that Jed is content with just being competitive? I'm sure he wants a SB trophy but what more can he do. They spend money on players. They got a new stadium built. They have one of the top coaches in the league. I suppose he could fire Lynch if he believes he doesn't know what he's doing ( I doubt that). If he did is there any guarantee that another GM would do a better job?

I'm fine with Jed. I know a lot of people think he should be more like Eddie D but that ship has sailed. Even Eddie couldn't be Eddie in today's world.

We are more than competitive we consistently win multiple playoff games every year.

WE have just gotten a bit unlucky with injuries and such

Originally posted by DrEll:
There has been a lot of chatter on social media / podcasts about how long Kyle/Lynch have in SF. It stems from listeners starting to voice their frustrations and asking the hosts these kinds of questions. As I said last week, even MATT BARROWS had to address it with Larry Krueger last week on his podcast.

These voices will only grow and at some point (hopefully next offseason but more likely in two) Kyle gonna be forced out of SF

So you are absolutely right. It starts with fans grumbling. That's when owners start taking hits in the pocket. Then it escalates up to media etc.

Can you link the podcast?

For people grumbling, you can always go back to the days when Jimmy Raye was calling the plays.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
But this is the problem. The majority is now content with being minorly competitive with the hope of competing n a given year. And York is happy with that. They've become content. And that's a huge problem for this franchise, especially with its history.

That is absolute garbage. They've said all along that the standard is Superbowls, most people are just switched on enough to know that it's not about the past. The true question for everyone is what is the best way for us to win our next Superbowl?

Serious question for you. Is it more likely that Kyle is still growing as a Coach and is the right person to lead us? Or that we're going to randomly luck into another Superbowl caliber coach?

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
That comeback against the Saints was actually the coming out party for Montana. The real turning point for the team was when they beat the Cowboys 45-14 in 1981. That's when the team really started believing in themselves. It's also when the fans started believing. I was in the stands for that game and I remember turning to my buddy and saying something like what has Walsh created here.

I watched both episodes last night. Lot's of interesting stuff insteas of just game highlights. I loved the part about Lott. Seeing those woo hits made me long for the days when players could do that. Sure wish we had all those INTs now.

Yeah watching that stuff as a kid was fun but definitely doesn't hit the same as when you're an adult. I hope we find the secret sauce to get back to even a sliver of that level of success in terms of winning SBs.

However I can only imagine how handicapped Ronnie's play would be in today's NFL. Guy scared the crap out of those receivers. You knew if you caught the ball anywhere near Ronnie you're going to feel it. Can't get away with that style of play in today's NFL. Ronnie would still be a HOFer today cuz he a dominant cover guy on top of the huge hits but that intimidation factor would be limited for sure.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by genus49:
Not a flex, a reminder.

Your whole thing is "if the owners hears enough from the fans he'll make changes"

So you're barking to nobody who cares. Now eventually IF Kyle loses the team or actually shows he's getting worse at his job then the majority will move Jed.

Right now all you're doing is yapping about the past and accomplishing nothing but annoying the majority of the fans here. And when you play the whole "I shall not be silenced" thing like you're some kind of martyr, I'm just reminding you that Jed York does not care.

But this is the problem. The majority is now content with being minorly competitive with the hope of competing n a given year. And York is happy with that. They've become content. And that's a huge problem for this franchise, especially with its history.

This narrative is absolutely incorrect. Nobody is content with getting close. This is what and that minority I spoke of seem to refuse to acknowledge.

Being able to celebrate playoff wins and successful seasons in terms of making a run is not being content. It's not CELEBRATING 2nd place or whatever you want to claim.

You said you just watched Rise of the 49ers right? Look at the reaction of the players after beating the Cowboys...fans rush the field like we just won the SB. I'm sure you were out there pouting telling everyone they were ridiculous for celebrating that.

Had we lose in the SB would those people not have enjoyed that moment the same way as when it happened? You literally have Eddie saying "I don't think anything can top this" and Bill saying "We're champions right now" this is after an NFCCG.

Sure you can make the claim that things are different now and the standard is different now but that's still right there on display. A reminder that those same guys you claim would've been livid with what's happening to this team now, were in fact celebrating big time before actually winning the SB.

Fans are allowed to be disappointed not winning it all that season and still acknowledge the good things the team did. You bunch playing gatekeeper is ridiculous and changes nothing.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
But this is the problem. The majority is now content with being minorly competitive with the hope of competing n a given year. And York is happy with that. They've become content. And that's a huge problem for this franchise, especially with its history.

That is absolute garbage. They've said all along that the standard is Superbowls, most people are just switched on enough to know that it's not about the past. The true question for everyone is what is the best way for us to win our next Superbowl?

Serious question for you. Is it more likely that Kyle is still growing as a Coach and is the right person to lead us? Or that we're going to randomly luck into another Superbowl caliber coach?

It's so funny to me that he references Rise of the 49ers and as I'm rewatching it you have Eddie D on the verge of tears celebrating with the players saying "I don't think anything can top this" after the NFCCG win(not the actual SB win) and Bill Walsh saying "We're champions" after that game as well.

And even more crazy on top of that - had that game went down exactly the same way in today's NFL. Cowboys win that game. And if that 2023 SB played out in the rules of the 80s 49ers win that SB.

Shanahan may end up being a guy who simply can't get it done here and may need to go to another team with a better GM in place cuz he can clearly coach. But right now after THIS season. We clearly have a reminder that Kyle can coach his ass off. If there are discussions to be had it's whether we can get over that hump with the front office structure we have in place now.

I still believe we can. We saw these guys with all their faults rebuild a way worse 2016 roster. Now will they get a mulligan if we somehow stumble enough to get a top 10 draft pick at this point? I hope we don't have to find out...but I do believe we have the right HC to get the job done. My bigger concern is on the personnel side and injury management front.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
But this is the problem. The majority is now content with being minorly competitive with the hope of competing n a given year. And York is happy with that. They've become content. And that's a huge problem for this franchise, especially with its history.

That is absolute garbage. They've said all along that the standard is Superbowls, most people are just switched on enough to know that it's not about the past. The true question for everyone is what is the best way for us to win our next Superbowl?

Serious question for you. Is it more likely that Kyle is still growing as a Coach and is the right person to lead us? Or that we're going to randomly luck into another Superbowl caliber coach?

every teams standard is superbowls. The cowboys standard is Super Bowl. So what does this even mean.

being scared about hiring another tomsula is a legitimate concern not because there are no better coaches out there, but because I worry about Jed's ability to pick the right coach.

we have sit back and watched the rams win two superbowls and quite possibly the Seahawks winning their second Super Bowl in a week's time since we have won our last. This is not ok. And the fans should not be content.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
every teams standard is superbowls. The cowboys standard is Super Bowl. So what does this even mean.

being scared about hiring another tomsula is a legitimate concern not because there are no better coaches out there, but because I worry about Jed's ability to pick the right coach.

we have sit back and watched the rams win two superbowls and quite possibly the Seahawks winning their second Super Bowl in a week's time since we have won our last. This is not ok. And the fans should not be content.

Are you not the guy who said he would shut up the rest of the season about Kyle if he beat the Browns or scored X amount of points...whatever it was?

Basically you threw something out there clearly expecting to see the same thing as before. You were wrong and I'll give you credit for owning your promise.

But does that not tell you that Kyle is changing in some ways? You clearly didn't expect him to do that, he did. Why are you so dug into the fact that Kyle cannot get over the hump or we somehow need change to get there?

We cannot control what the Rams or Seahawks do. They were two of the healthiest teams in the NFL this year and when Seattle had some injuries of worth early in the season they were nowhere as good as they have been here down the stretch when they're fully healthy save a rookie WR and their backup RB.

If this season showed anything it's that Kyle Shanahan knows how to coach if he doesn't have to worry about the defense or special teams.

The things that people have complained about him doing have changed. He's become more aggressive on 4th down. His game management has improved. Sure there are still issues that need to be addressed - like the OL being somewhat of an afterthought and the need for better drafting but did you see the Seahawks drafts from 2013 to 2021? NOT GOOD.

You make a few right picks and suddenly there's a quick turnaround in place.

I know a lot of fans that were too young to enjoy those great Niner teams are hungry to see another SB win. However one reason that 1982 SB win was so special was because it was the region's first professional championship. The Niners are the only pro team other than the Sharks that originated in the Bay Area. That makes them special to a lot of fans. Especially older ones. When many of us were growing up the Raiders, A's, Giants and Warriors weren't in the Bay Area yet. I was at the NFC championship game when they beat the Cowboys and a lot of people around me were in tears because we were starved for a title. When I got home I couldn't even sit still so I went to a local club to celebrate all evening with fans.

I hope you younger fans get to enjoy a title but it won't be quite the same. It will be just one of several titles that Bay Area teams have won. Hard to believe but the region has 19 titles now.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I know a lot of fans that were too young to enjoy those great Niner teams are hungry to see another SB win. However one reason that 1982 SB win was so special was because it was the region's first professional championship. The Niners are the only pro team other than the Sharks that originated in the Bay Area. That makes them special to a lot of fans. Especially older ones. When many of us were growing up the Raiders, A's, Giants and Warriors weren't in the Bay Area yet. I was at the NFC championship game when they beat the Cowboys and a lot of people around me were in tears because we were starved for a title. When I got home I couldn't even sit still so I went to a local club to celebrate all evening with fans.

I hope you younger fans get to enjoy a title but it won't be quite the same. It will be just one of several titles that Bay Area teams have won. Hard to believe but the region has 19 titles now.

Cool story man. It's always a lot more impactful when you wait a long time for it...even though it sucks. Hopefully we all get to see one soon though. We've waited long enough lol.

I remember how crazy it was when the Red Sox won in 2004, ironically I feel like them beating the Yankees in that game 7 coming back from being down 0-3 was just as amazing as 49ers beating the Cowboys in 82. In a way the actual Championship win was almost somewhat anti climactic cuz toppling your longtime rival the "series" before was so impactful.

I'd be lying if i said I didn't envy Seattle cuz when(unfortunately very likely they do) Seattle wins the SB next Sunday they get the extra excitement of taking us and the Rams out on the way to avenging their loss to the Pats. Can only imagine how amazing it would be if we beat Philly, Seattle, Rams and then had a chance to knock off the Chiefs to finally win the SB again.

But these days I'm not picky. I don't care if we get an easy path to the SB with injured/bad playoff teams as long as we get that win to close out the postseason.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
every teams standard is superbowls. The cowboys standard is Super Bowl. So what does this even mean.

being scared about hiring another tomsula is a legitimate concern not because there are no better coaches out there, but because I worry about Jed's ability to pick the right coach.

we have sit back and watched the rams win two superbowls and quite possibly the Seahawks winning their second Super Bowl in a week's time since we have won our last. This is not ok. And the fans should not be content.

You are so close to putting this thing together, lol.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
But this is the problem. The majority is now content with being minorly competitive with the hope of competing n a given year. And York is happy with that. They've become content. And that's a huge problem for this franchise, especially with its history.

With it's history? WTF are you talking about? I went to 9er games at Kezar, was in the stands for the 80/81 season. Saw the catch. I remember this team being 'loveable losers' for many years. They flirted with playoff success a bit in the early seventies, but they never made it very far. So when you say "with their history" I get confused because their history isn't one of dominance, minus that 10 years span when we had a HC, QB, and roster that was on fire. These past 8-9 years with KS at the helm have been such a blast, getting into the tournament nearly every year has been great for us 9er fans. Quit s**tting in the bed and enjoy the ride, it doesn't last forever.