49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by genus49:
You realize you have three options as a fan…cope with not getting a ring, stop being a fan right or end it all.

I assure you no fan complaining about the team online has ever been able to reverse the course of history and post their team to a SB victory they didn't actually get in reality.

So as long as we're in here posting and still supporting the team we're all coping with those loses.

s**tting on Kyle is how I cope.

Bruh, IF you ain't NUMB to being second fiddle under Shanny year in year out... it's actually your fault..

Originally posted by genus49:
Just make sure you're doing it with facts and not fiction and keep it current and you're allowed to cope how you want.

Just as long as you're aware your coping changes nothing with the team.

If we all stay quiet and just take Kyle's losses year in and year out old jed would just be happy taking in the cash. Me s**tting on him can make a difference.

To whom? Do you think Jed checks this forum every day to see what the "fans" are thinking? "Oh, look! Jose Cortez says I should get rid of Kyle. I better get on that right away!" Like several other people in this forum who spend all of their time beating the same drum on one particular topic, all you're really doing is causing people to get tired of the relentless complaining and tune you out. As genus49 pointed out, all the complaining changes absolutely nothing about what has gone before. It is what it is.

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by genus49:
You realize you have three options as a fan…cope with not getting a ring, stop being a fan right or end it all.

I assure you no fan complaining about the team online has ever been able to reverse the course of history and post their team to a SB victory they didn't actually get in reality.

So as long as we're in here posting and still supporting the team we're all coping with those loses.

s**tting on Kyle is how I cope.

Bruh, IF you ain't NUMB to being second fiddle under Shanny year in year out... it's actually your fault..

Originally posted by genus49:
Just make sure you're doing it with facts and not fiction and keep it current and you're allowed to cope how you want.

Just as long as you're aware your coping changes nothing with the team.

If we all stay quiet and just take Kyle's losses year in and year out old jed would just be happy taking in the cash. Me s**tting on him can make a difference.

To whom? Do you think Jed checks this forum every day to see what the "fans" are thinking? "Oh, look! Jose Cortez says I should get rid of Kyle. I better get on that right away!" Like several other people in this forum who spend all of their time beating the same drum on one particular topic, all you're really doing is causing people to get tired of the relentless complaining and tune you out. As genus49 pointed out, all the complaining changes absolutely nothing about what has gone before. It is what it is.

If you're a good owner you listen to the fans. That would include social media. I'm not saying he sees one poster's opinion on one fan forum and makes a decision. But if enough fans voice their displeasure in all types of social media it can cause change.

the players hear it. The coaches hear it. The owner hears it.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
If you're a good owner you listen to the fans. That would include social media. I'm not saying he sees one poster's opinion on one fan forum and makes a decision. But if enough fans voice their displeasure in all types of social media it can cause change.

the players hear it. The coaches hear it. The owner hears it.

Did you like his draft day trolling when we took Trey Lance?

He obviously heard the fans then.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
If you're a good owner you listen to the fans. That would include social media. I'm not saying he sees one poster's opinion on one fan forum and makes a decision. But if enough fans voice their displeasure in all types of social media it can cause change.

the players hear it. The coaches hear it. The owner hears it.

Did you like his draft day trolling when we took Trey Lance?

He obviously heard the fans then.

Of course he did. I know shanahan wanted Mac. But there was a ton of pressure.

I know the fans had a hand in that selection. Just go back to the Lance thread and see the fans reaction when Lance was taken.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by genus49:
You realize you have three options as a fan…cope with not getting a ring, stop being a fan right or end it all.

I assure you no fan complaining about the team online has ever been able to reverse the course of history and post their team to a SB victory they didn't actually get in reality.

So as long as we're in here posting and still supporting the team we're all coping with those loses.

s**tting on Kyle is how I cope.

I think your analysis and critiques are quite thoughtful.

We shall not be silenced into mediocrity!

BRAH... you out numbered here ... you out numbered !!

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
IDGAF who's better between McVay and MacDonald. They both will have SB rings on their fingers. If Kyle had won one like he was supposed to this isn't even an argument. To the victor belong the spoils. Arguing who is a better SB winning coach is irrelevant. What's relevant is do you consider a guy in his second year winning a SB better than a guy not winning one in 10 years ? And IMO 1 SB win >>>>> 2 SB losses, but something tells me you would disagree.

I.e. it's all about trashing Kyle and not holding all other coaches to one standard.

If Kyle gets fired and then wins SBs elsewhere like Reid are you gonna say you were wrong? Of course not. It'll be a "he just needed a change of scenery"

i've ALREADY said this over and over... Kyle may win one or two, but it WONT be here... it's FATE... it's pretty similar to Marty... a very good HC, but was not meant to be...

Just like Marino and Kelly, NOT MEANT TO BE...

..

If getting rid of shanahan brings us 2 superbowls over the next 10 years just like the eagles after canning Reid count me in.

Yah In Cortee, Yah In !!!

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Rice-a-Ronnie:

Originally posted by 9moon:
Oh and Shanny did not want then modern day GOAT.

Beat me to it 9moon...

the ONE argument these Shannanygans will NEVAHHH win !! lol..

he didn't want the 2nd best QB that ever to play the game because he had a subpar year and stayed w/Grappy who he wasn't ALL IN...

THEN, he traded nearly the entire CAMELOT for a young prospect that reminded him of MAHOMES who he also DID NOT WANT after working him out and called him a FREAK OF NATURE....

that's our HC !!!!

we look forward to you joining the NFL and showing us how easy it is.

Knowing Moon he'd hire freaking PJ Fleck as his HC, LMAO.

HAHAHHA... I would actually ask Cris Petersen (FIRST) if he wants to come out of retirement and review the roster we have... I'll try and convince him that Shanny and. Lynch have built a CONTENDER but just needs a REAL head coach... He'll be convinced enough and realize that he has a 2-year window for the players we have now...

I'll also trade for

Michael Mayer
Jaylen Waddle

sign Joey Bosa
sign Tremaine Edmunds
sign Tre'Davious White
sign Alijah Vera-Tucker

... just to name a few

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by genus49:
You realize you have three options as a fan…cope with not getting a ring, stop being a fan right or end it all.

I assure you no fan complaining about the team online has ever been able to reverse the course of history and post their team to a SB victory they didn't actually get in reality.

So as long as we're in here posting and still supporting the team we're all coping with those loses.

s**tting on Kyle is how I cope.

Bruh, IF you ain't NUMB to being second fiddle under Shanny year in year out... it's actually your fault..

Originally posted by genus49:
Just make sure you're doing it with facts and not fiction and keep it current and you're allowed to cope how you want.

Just as long as you're aware your coping changes nothing with the team.

If we all stay quiet and just take Kyle's losses year in and year out old jed would just be happy taking in the cash. Me s**tting on him can make a difference.

When you have a lot of the media and majority of fans pushing for a firing, that's when it can make a difference. Trolls don't impact firing, you're making no difference..

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by genus49:
You realize you have three options as a fan…cope with not getting a ring, stop being a fan right or end it all.

I assure you no fan complaining about the team online has ever been able to reverse the course of history and post their team to a SB victory they didn't actually get in reality.

So as long as we're in here posting and still supporting the team we're all coping with those loses.

s**tting on Kyle is how I cope.

I think your analysis and critiques are quite thoughtful.

We shall not be silenced into mediocrity!

BRAH... you out numbered here ... you out numbered !!

I know. But they won't stop me.

i just finished the rise of the 49ers on amc. It brought a tear to my eye. The desire to win by debartolo. The genius of Walsh.

There was a snippet in there. bill walsh didn't have the best oline. And he knew he couldn't move the opposing dline. So he developed the west coast offense with short timing routes with three step drops to get past the dline. Such an innovator. The start of the dynasty was that 35-7 comeback vs the saints in 1980. Never saw the niners today with shanahan do anything like that.

then I thought about shanahan and York I wanted to vomit.

lets be fr, Kyle only hired Raheem for a shot at Kirk Cousins.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by genus49:
You realize you have three options as a fan…cope with not getting a ring, stop being a fan right or end it all.

I assure you no fan complaining about the team online has ever been able to reverse the course of history and post their team to a SB victory they didn't actually get in reality.

So as long as we're in here posting and still supporting the team we're all coping with those loses.

s**tting on Kyle is how I cope.

Bruh, IF you ain't NUMB to being second fiddle under Shanny year in year out... it's actually your fault..

Originally posted by genus49:
Just make sure you're doing it with facts and not fiction and keep it current and you're allowed to cope how you want.

Just as long as you're aware your coping changes nothing with the team.

If we all stay quiet and just take Kyle's losses year in and year out old jed would just be happy taking in the cash. Me s**tting on him can make a difference.

To whom? Do you think Jed checks this forum every day to see what the "fans" are thinking? "Oh, look! Jose Cortez says I should get rid of Kyle. I better get on that right away!" Like several other people in this forum who spend all of their time beating the same drum on one particular topic, all you're really doing is causing people to get tired of the relentless complaining and tune you out. As genus49 pointed out, all the complaining changes absolutely nothing about what has gone before. It is what it is.

If you're a good owner you listen to the fans. That would include social media. I'm not saying he sees one poster's opinion on one fan forum and makes a decision. But if enough fans voice their displeasure in all types of social media it can cause change.

the players hear it. The coaches hear it. The owner hears it.

There has been a lot of chatter on social media / podcasts about how long Kyle/Lynch have in SF. It stems from listeners starting to voice their frustrations and asking the hosts these kinds of questions. As I said last week, even MATT BARROWS had to address it with Larry Krueger last week on his podcast.

These voices will only grow and at some point (hopefully next offseason but more likely in two) Kyle gonna be forced out of SF

So you are absolutely right. It starts with fans grumbling. That's when owners start taking hits in the pocket. Then it escalates up to media etc.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by genus49:
You realize you have three options as a fan…cope with not getting a ring, stop being a fan right or end it all.

I assure you no fan complaining about the team online has ever been able to reverse the course of history and post their team to a SB victory they didn't actually get in reality.

So as long as we're in here posting and still supporting the team we're all coping with those loses.

s**tting on Kyle is how I cope.

I think your analysis and critiques are quite thoughtful.

We shall not be silenced into mediocrity!

BRAH... you out numbered here ... you out numbered !!

I know. But they won't stop me.

i just finished the rise of the 49ers on amc. It brought a tear to my eye. The desire to win by debartolo. The genius of Walsh.

There was a snippet in there. bill walsh didn't have the best oline. And he knew he couldn't move the opposing dline. So he developed the west coast offense with short timing routes with three step drops to get past the dline. Such an innovator. The start of the dynasty was that 35-7 comeback vs the saints in 1980. Never saw the niners today with shanahan do anything like that.

then I thought about shanahan and York I wanted to vomit.

I'm sorry to tell you this...but you're not special. Jed York is not reading your posts on here to make his decisions just like he's not reading mine.

You are the minority with your thoughts here. If you follow this thread there is like 10 of you at most who repeat the same crap over and over and fluff yourselves up when doing it trying to pretend you're somehow speaking for the majority of fans.

Yes 35-7 comeback win, week 14 game the year we went 6-10 is what started the dynasty, forget they lost 35-10 the next game and then lost another one to go 0-2 after that comeback win.

Drafting of Ronnie Lott, Eric Wright and Carlton Williamson the draft after that season had nothing to do with it...

And btw while not a 35-7 comeback, they had a similar type of game in 2017 against the Rams being down 34-20 heading into the 4th quarter. Which is actually a bigger deficit at that point in the game than the 49ers had in that Saints game. If not for the BS OPI call on Trent Taylor 49ers win that game and that was with Brian Hoyer as the QB, not Joe Montana.

But yes...nobody here will argue against how great Walsh/Montana/Eddie D combo was in those days. It was magical and all of us here would kill to have that happen again. However times are different. The NFL is different. Football has come a long way since the late 70s/early 80s. Bill was a true genius and innovator. What he was able to do with the WCO was not only get an advantage on where the NFL was at the time but also put himself into a great position to bring in players for his scheme that other teams weren't as excited by. It's similar to the Denver Broncos under Alex Gibbs/Mike Shanahan reaping benefits of modernizing the zone blocking scheme and getting all those players and dominant RBs/OLs from it.

Problem is eventually teams adjust, your coaching tree spreads and now more teams are looking for similar skill sets and with the salary cap in play today you cannot keep all your top players.

You guys refuse to open your eyes and look around the league. There are 32 HC in the league. 10 of them have ties to Shanahan whether they're guys who worked under him as HC/OC or worked for guys who learned from him and got HC gigs.

All of them are trying to find similar players on offense and in some cases on defense as well. Wanting to get rid of Kyle Shanahan right now is just stupid since odds are you'll be looking to replace him with someone from his coaching tree who may not even be as good.

Originally posted by genus49:
I'm sorry to tell you this...but you're not special. Jed York is not reading your posts on here to make his decisions just like he's not reading mine.

You are the minority with your thoughts here. If you follow this thread there is like 10 of you at most who repeat the same crap over and over and fluff yourselves up when doing it trying to pretend you're somehow speaking for the majority of fans.

Yes 35-7 comeback win, week 14 game the year we went 6-10 is what started the dynasty, forget they lost 35-10 the next game and then lost another one to go 0-2 after that comeback win.

Drafting of Ronnie Lott, Eric Wright and Carlton Williamson the draft after that season had nothing to do with it...

And btw while not a 35-7 comeback, they had a similar type of game in 2017 against the Rams being down 34-20 heading into the 4th quarter. Which is actually a bigger deficit at that point in the game than the 49ers had in that Saints game. If not for the BS OPI call on Trent Taylor 49ers win that game and that was with Brian Hoyer as the QB, not Joe Montana.

But yes...nobody here will argue against how great Walsh/Montana/Eddie D combo was in those days. It was magical and all of us here would kill to have that happen again. However times are different. The NFL is different. Football has come a long way since the late 70s/early 80s. Bill was a true genius and innovator. What he was able to do with the WCO was not only get an advantage on where the NFL was at the time but also put himself into a great position to bring in players for his scheme that other teams weren't as excited by. It's similar to the Denver Broncos under Alex Gibbs/Mike Shanahan reaping benefits of modernizing the zone blocking scheme and getting all those players and dominant RBs/OLs from it.

Problem is eventually teams adjust, your coaching tree spreads and now more teams are looking for similar skill sets and with the salary cap in play today you cannot keep all your top players.

You guys refuse to open your eyes and look around the league. There are 32 HC in the league. 10 of them have ties to Shanahan whether they're guys who worked under him as HC/OC or worked for guys who learned from him and got HC gigs.

All of them are trying to find similar players on offense and in some cases on defense as well. Wanting to get rid of Kyle Shanahan right now is just stupid since odds are you'll be looking to replace him with someone from his coaching tree who may not even be as good.

Why is this a flex? Seriously.

most fans wanted Lance and wanted to jump off a cliff at the thought of Mac jones. How did that turn out? Oooooohhhh the majority!

and I'll be waiting for that Shanahan York documentary in about in 30 years

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by genus49:
I'm sorry to tell you this...but you're not special. Jed York is not reading your posts on here to make his decisions just like he's not reading mine.

You are the minority with your thoughts here. If you follow this thread there is like 10 of you at most who repeat the same crap over and over and fluff yourselves up when doing it trying to pretend you're somehow speaking for the majority of fans.

Yes 35-7 comeback win, week 14 game the year we went 6-10 is what started the dynasty, forget they lost 35-10 the next game and then lost another one to go 0-2 after that comeback win.

Drafting of Ronnie Lott, Eric Wright and Carlton Williamson the draft after that season had nothing to do with it...

And btw while not a 35-7 comeback, they had a similar type of game in 2017 against the Rams being down 34-20 heading into the 4th quarter. Which is actually a bigger deficit at that point in the game than the 49ers had in that Saints game. If not for the BS OPI call on Trent Taylor 49ers win that game and that was with Brian Hoyer as the QB, not Joe Montana.

But yes...nobody here will argue against how great Walsh/Montana/Eddie D combo was in those days. It was magical and all of us here would kill to have that happen again. However times are different. The NFL is different. Football has come a long way since the late 70s/early 80s. Bill was a true genius and innovator. What he was able to do with the WCO was not only get an advantage on where the NFL was at the time but also put himself into a great position to bring in players for his scheme that other teams weren't as excited by. It's similar to the Denver Broncos under Alex Gibbs/Mike Shanahan reaping benefits of modernizing the zone blocking scheme and getting all those players and dominant RBs/OLs from it.

Problem is eventually teams adjust, your coaching tree spreads and now more teams are looking for similar skill sets and with the salary cap in play today you cannot keep all your top players.

You guys refuse to open your eyes and look around the league. There are 32 HC in the league. 10 of them have ties to Shanahan whether they're guys who worked under him as HC/OC or worked for guys who learned from him and got HC gigs.

All of them are trying to find similar players on offense and in some cases on defense as well. Wanting to get rid of Kyle Shanahan right now is just stupid since odds are you'll be looking to replace him with someone from his coaching tree who may not even be as good.

Why is this a flex? Seriously.

most fans wanted Lance and wanted to jump off a cliff at the thought of Mac jones. How did that turn out? Oooooohhhh the majority!

and I'll be waiting for that Shanahan York documentary in about in 30 years

Not a flex, a reminder.

Your whole thing is "if the owners hears enough from the fans he'll make changes"

So you're barking to nobody who cares. Now eventually IF Kyle loses the team or actually shows he's getting worse at his job then the majority will move Jed.

Right now all you're doing is yapping about the past and accomplishing nothing but annoying the majority of the fans here. And when you play the whole "I shall not be silenced" thing like you're some kind of martyr, I'm just reminding you that Jed York does not care.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by genus49:
You realize you have three options as a fan…cope with not getting a ring, stop being a fan right or end it all.

I assure you no fan complaining about the team online has ever been able to reverse the course of history and post their team to a SB victory they didn't actually get in reality.

So as long as we're in here posting and still supporting the team we're all coping with those loses.

s**tting on Kyle is how I cope.

I think your analysis and critiques are quite thoughtful.

We shall not be silenced into mediocrity!

BRAH... you out numbered here ... you out numbered !!

I know. But they won't stop me.

i just finished the rise of the 49ers on amc. It brought a tear to my eye. The desire to win by debartolo. The genius of Walsh.

There was a snippet in there. bill walsh didn't have the best oline. And he knew he couldn't move the opposing dline. So he developed the west coast offense with short timing routes with three step drops to get past the dline. Such an innovator. The start of the dynasty was that 35-7 comeback vs the saints in 1980. Never saw the niners today with shanahan do anything like that.

then I thought about shanahan and York I wanted to vomit.

I'm sorry to tell you this...but you're not special. Jed York is not reading your posts on here to make his decisions just like he's not reading mine.

You are the minority with your thoughts here. If you follow this thread there is like 10 of you at most who repeat the same crap over and over and fluff yourselves up when doing it trying to pretend you're somehow speaking for the majority of fans.

Yes 35-7 comeback win, week 14 game the year we went 6-10 is what started the dynasty, forget they lost 35-10 the next game and then lost another one to go 0-2 after that comeback win.

Drafting of Ronnie Lott, Eric Wright and Carlton Williamson the draft after that season had nothing to do with it...

And btw while not a 35-7 comeback, they had a similar type of game in 2017 against the Rams being down 34-20 heading into the 4th quarter. Which is actually a bigger deficit at that point in the game than the 49ers had in that Saints game. If not for the BS OPI call on Trent Taylor 49ers win that game and that was with Brian Hoyer as the QB, not Joe Montana.

But yes...nobody here will argue against how great Walsh/Montana/Eddie D combo was in those days. It was magical and all of us here would kill to have that happen again. However times are different. The NFL is different. Football has come a long way since the late 70s/early 80s. Bill was a true genius and innovator. What he was able to do with the WCO was not only get an advantage on where the NFL was at the time but also put himself into a great position to bring in players for his scheme that other teams weren't as excited by. It's similar to the Denver Broncos under Alex Gibbs/Mike Shanahan reaping benefits of modernizing the zone blocking scheme and getting all those players and dominant RBs/OLs from it.

Problem is eventually teams adjust, your coaching tree spreads and now more teams are looking for similar skill sets and with the salary cap in play today you cannot keep all your top players.

You guys refuse to open your eyes and look around the league. There are 32 HC in the league. 10 of them have ties to Shanahan whether they're guys who worked under him as HC/OC or worked for guys who learned from him and got HC gigs.

All of them are trying to find similar players on offense and in some cases on defense as well. Wanting to get rid of Kyle Shanahan right now is just stupid since odds are you'll be looking to replace him with someone from his coaching tree who may not even be as good.

That comeback against the Saints was actually the coming out party for Montana. The real turning point for the team was when they beat the Cowboys 45-14 in 1981. That's when the team really started believing in themselves. It's also when the fans started believing. I was in the stands for that game and I remember turning to my buddy and saying something like what has Walsh created here.

I watched both episodes last night. Lot's of interesting stuff insteas of just game highlights. I loved the part about Lott. Seeing those woo hits made me long for the days when players could do that. Sure wish we had all those INTs now.