49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:
…or we could have put them away in the 3rd quarter after the Brown interception on KC's 44 being up 10-3. Instead, here's the brilliant play calling on the next few plays (let's remember we are on KC's 44). Pass, false start, Pass, Pass, Punt —- Pass, Pass, Pass, Punt —- RUN, Pass, Pass, Punt —- and then we fumble on the punt return and they score.

That entire 3rd quarter, after we pick Mahomes off on their 44 yard line, up 10-3….we decide to RUN one time, pass 8 times….score ZERO POINT…KC scores 10 points and take 13-10 lead into the 4th.

And guys here will tell you that the playcalling was justified because:

1) ONE false start penalty
2) SPECIAL TEAMS mistake

all smoke and mirrors to avoid addressing the 8/9 pass plays called on 3 drives with the offensive player of the year….

Same goes for you. I've spent many posts explaining to you why it wasn't simply getting away from the run game. You don't care. You're too busy moving ahead with your absurd takes...now 3 years after they happened.

If you want to discuss what happened this season or will/should happen that's fine. Stop bringing up that SB without any reason other than to spread misinformation and pump up old narratives.

Maybe go after the OP. I'm just responding to a post.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I'll tell you what he wouldn't have done.

throw a party after a Super Bowl loss.

Extend Kyle when he has no rings.

Yeah he was busy getting felonies and hiring Steve Mariucci at the end of it

If the Niners had lost that first SB to the Bengals I suspect Eddie would have thrown a party for his players to show his appreciation that they got there. He threw a lot of parties. The whole SB or bust thing became his mantra after they won that game. Prior to that win just getting there was a major accomplishment. Eddie was a great owner but he wasn't without faults. Remember he often had arguments with Walsh and threatened to fire him.

He did have his faults but he was a great owner. He made this franchise what it is.

Imagine s**tting on him just to prop up Kyle. Unbelievable.

Who's s**tting on him? Learn to read, troll.

First of all I'm not a troll. I had season tickets for over 30 years during the entire Eddie D time. I had nothng but love for him for what he did for my beloved Niners. I guess you're referring to the comment about him getting felonies and hiring Mooch. Well he did. That doesn't change my opinion of him though. He was reckless at times, generous, compassionate and decisive.

He hired Joe Thomas as GM who pulled off one of the worst trades in 49er history. Bad mistake. He quickly realized Thomas wasn't the right guy and fired him. He hired Walsh and gave him full control over football operations. Great decision. You have to wonder what would have happened if Walsh hadn't been coaching at Stanford at that time. Would he have been hired as the next coach?

As hard and demanding as Eddie was he treated his players better than any owner in the league. Lavish parties. First class travel and hotels. He set up a lifetime annuity for Jeff Fuller when an injury ended his career. It's no wonder players were beating down the door to try and play here.

I was quoting JoseTrolltez

Sorry. Sometmes it's hard to know with these comments when they're responding to other comments.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:
…or we could have put them away in the 3rd quarter after the Brown interception on KC's 44 being up 10-3. Instead, here's the brilliant play calling on the next few plays (let's remember we are on KC's 44). Pass, false start, Pass, Pass, Punt —- Pass, Pass, Pass, Punt —- RUN, Pass, Pass, Punt —- and then we fumble on the punt return and they score.

That entire 3rd quarter, after we pick Mahomes off on their 44 yard line, up 10-3….we decide to RUN one time, pass 8 times….score ZERO POINT…KC scores 10 points and take 13-10 lead into the 4th.

And guys here will tell you that the playcalling was justified because:

1) ONE false start penalty
2) SPECIAL TEAMS mistake

all smoke and mirrors to avoid addressing the 8/9 pass plays called on 3 drives with the offensive player of the year….

Same goes for you. I've spent many posts explaining to you why it wasn't simply getting away from the run game. You don't care. You're too busy moving ahead with your absurd takes...now 3 years after they happened.

If you want to discuss what happened this season or will/should happen that's fine. Stop bringing up that SB without any reason other than to spread misinformation and pump up old narratives.

Maybe go after the OP. I'm just responding to a post.

I did. It goes for everyone. We have enough we can talk about without digging into hypotheticals about an owner coming back which won't be or pretending we can change a SB from 3 years ago that we cannot.

Your comment struck me as disingenuous considering we spoke about those 3rd quarter plays before. I'm not going to get into it again but you're basically showing you're not here to have your opinion changed. You will ignore reality to do so. At minimum I ask you stick to the current situation.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I'll tell you what he wouldn't have done.

throw a party after a Super Bowl loss.

Extend Kyle when he has no rings.

Yeah he was busy getting felonies and hiring Steve Mariucci at the end of it

If the Niners had lost that first SB to the Bengals I suspect Eddie would have thrown a party for his players to show his appreciation that they got there. He threw a lot of parties. The whole SB or bust thing became his mantra after they won that game. Prior to that win just getting there was a major accomplishment. Eddie was a great owner but he wasn't without faults. Remember he often had arguments with Walsh and threatened to fire him.

He did have his faults but he was a great owner. He made this franchise what it is.

Imagine s**tting on him just to prop up Kyle. Unbelievable.

Who's s**tting on him? Learn to read, troll.

"Yeah he was busy getting felonies"

"who was s**tting on him"?

Originally posted by DrEll:
Wrong. The reason Eagles won their 2 rings was bc the franchise moved on. I've never heard of any fans or Philly media pundits spin it like you are. Which is basically trying to substitute Andy for Kyle and stating that we could miss out on SBs if we lose Kyle.

So they won because they moved on with inferior coaches? You understand how insane that sounds right?

So the 1970 Cotls wouldn't have won with Don Shula? They needed Don McCafferty?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Wrong. The reason Eagles won their 2 rings was bc the franchise moved on. I've never heard of any fans or Philly media pundits spin it like you are. Which is basically trying to substitute Andy for Kyle and stating that we could miss out on SBs if we lose Kyle.

So they won because they moved on with inferior coaches? You understand how insane that sounds right?

So the 1970 Cotls wouldn't have won with Don Shula? They needed Don McCafferty?

Who cares if they moved on with inferior or superior coaches. As I said before, I don't care which coach is the "better" SB winning coach when both guys have a ring. The same applies here. Who cares about Reid when both Pederson and Sirrianni have a SB ring to boot. Your argument only makes sense if we were asking to get rid of SB winning coach Kyle Shanahan because at least then you could argue we're sacrificing a championship coach for an unknown. Instead you argue we need to keep our championship-less coach because we might end up with another championship-less coach. Oh the horror 😱

Originally posted by DrEll:
Who cares if they moved on with inferior or superior coaches. As I said before, I don't care which coach is the "better" SB winning coach when both guys have a ring. The same applies here. Who cares about Reid when both Pederson and Sirrianni have a SB ring to boot. Your argument only makes sense if we were asking to get rid of SB winning coach Kyle Shanahan because at least then you could argue we're sacrificing a championship coach for an unknown. Instead you argue we need to keep our championship-less coach because we might end up with another championship-less coach. Oh the horror 😱

Who cares? Because Andy has 3 rings dude. You fired an all time coach for a guy you then fired a couple years later. Thats not a net positive.

Again was Baltimore smart to fire Don Shula for a guy who was gone 2 years later just becaue he happenned to win that year? Thats insane.

I'll take a guy who is 9-5 in the playoffs on the chance he will get over the hump over some complete unknown all day yes.

So once a coach wins a ring there is no difference between them. Bill Bellicheck and Nick Sirianni are twins. Totally rational. Who wants 6 rings when you can have 1.

Originally posted by DrEll:
IDGAF who's better between McVay and MacDonald. They both will have SB rings on their fingers. If Kyle had won one like he was supposed to this isn't even an argument. To the victor belong the spoils. Arguing who is a better SB winning coach is irrelevant. What's relevant is do you consider a guy in his second year winning a SB better than a guy not winning one in 10 years ? And IMO 1 SB win >>>>> 2 SB losses, but something tells me you would disagree.

"If Kyle had won one like he was supposed to this isn't even an argument." -- Like he was supposed to? According to whom, The Great Secret Book of NFL Outcomes? Is there a spell that goes along with, or some kind of blood pact? I'm not trying to throw Jimmy under the bus, but was it Kyle's fault he missed that throw to Sanders? He called a play that worked and could have been a game sealing TD. Is it Kyle's fault that Burford missed the block on Clark?

At some point your players have to execute and stop the other team from executing their plays. Some of you guys act like the 49ers are somehow entitled to win another Super Bowl and it's the only metric that matters. You have to play through the regular season first and earn the right to get to the playoffs, and then you have to play well enough on every down to avoiding getting eliminated. That's the nature of the NFL. This team, for a variety of reasons, simply wasn't good enough this year. Honestly, I would rather see them lose in the playoffs than lose in a Super Bowl again. As I said in another post, the thing that made the 49ers special is the fact that when they got to the Super Bowl, they won. That streak was broken in 2012 and now they've started a less appealing streak, which is striking out in their last three times at bat.

I suspect that Seattle will win when the time comes, which to me is a preferrable outcome to seeing us get by beat by the Patriots. Not saying that would have happened, but I would have liked to see them going into the game without a bunch of 3rd and 4th stringers on defense and hardly any legitimate receivers. Hopefully, they'll have a good offseason and go into 2026 showing they can compete with the Rams and Seahawks on a more equal basis. Go Niners!

GOAT.

The difference between EddieD and Jed York.
No way Kyle and Lynch would still be around if he was still in control. Jed just cares about raking in the revenue, even if it means making fools out of the fans

Originally posted by 49ers81:
"If Kyle had won one like he was supposed to this isn't even an argument." -- Like he was supposed to? According to whom, The Great Secret Book of NFL Outcomes? Is there a spell that goes along with, or some kind of blood pact? I'm not trying to throw Jimmy under the bus, but was it Kyle's fault he missed that throw to Sanders? He called a play that worked and could have been a game sealing TD. Is it Kyle's fault that Burford missed the block on Clark?

At some point your players have to execute and stop the other team from executing their plays. Some of you guys act like the 49ers are somehow entitled to win another Super Bowl and it's the only metric that matters. You have to play through the regular season first and earn the right to get to the playoffs, and then you have to play well enough on every down to avoiding getting eliminated. That's the nature of the NFL. This team, for a variety of reasons, simply wasn't good enough this year. Honestly, I would rather see them lose in the playoffs than lose in a Super Bowl again. As I said in another post, the thing that made the 49ers special is the fact that when they got to the Super Bowl, they won. That streak was broken in 2012 and now they've started a less appealing streak, which is striking out in their last three times at bat.

I suspect that Seattle will win when the time comes, which to me is a preferrable outcome to seeing us get by beat by the Patriots. Not saying that would have happened, but I would have liked to see them going into the game without a bunch of 3rd and 4th stringers on defense and hardly any legitimate receivers. Hopefully, they'll have a good offseason and go into 2026 showing they can compete with the Rams and Seahawks on a more equal basis. Go Niners!

This is a fact a few in here refuse to acknowledge. Apparently that's an excuse to them meanwhile at the same time they excuse that away as not being a critical issue and something earlier would've eliminated the need for that play to be made. It's insanity honestly.

You will find very few games where you can't claim a HC made a questionable call/decision. To me sometimes you need guys to make those plays when the coach F's up. But as far as coaches go if they can get their players into position to succeed more times than not, they're doing their job at a high level.

Kyle has done that. Now he needs to identify the issues we've seen early in the draft and avoid making those mistakes again. I trust him as a HC 100% until he proves otherwise. I believe he's even shown to grow from his earlier mistakes. But we have to get better talent in place and we need to do it without top 5 draft picks.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Eddie DeBartolo was asked how frustrating it would be to go 31 years without a championship as an owner?

"I wouldn't." #49ers | #FTTB pic.twitter.com/vylBDaG7Eb

— Matt Lively (@mattblively) January 28, 2026

GOAT.

The difference between EddieD and Jed York.
No way Kyle and Lynch would still be around if he was still in control. Jed just cares about raking in the revenue, even if it means making fools out of the fans

This may shock you...but Kyle and Lynch haven't been here 31 years.

Nor is Eddie saying he wouldn't go 31 years without a championships mean a damn thing. Owners don't get to choose these things.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Eddie DeBartolo was asked how frustrating it would be to go 31 years without a championship as an owner?

"I wouldn't." #49ers | #FTTB pic.twitter.com/vylBDaG7Eb

— Matt Lively (@mattblively) January 28, 2026

GOAT.

The difference between EddieD and Jed York.
No way Kyle and Lynch would still be around if he was still in control. Jed just cares about raking in the revenue, even if it means making fools out of the fans

This may shock you...but Kyle and Lynch haven't been here 31 years.

Nor is Eddie saying he wouldn't go 31 years without a championships mean a damn thing. Owners don't get to choose these things.

Do you think Kyle and Lynch would still be here if Eddie was owner ?

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Eddie DeBartolo was asked how frustrating it would be to go 31 years without a championship as an owner?

"I wouldn't." #49ers | #FTTB pic.twitter.com/vylBDaG7Eb

— Matt Lively (@mattblively) January 28, 2026

GOAT.

The difference between EddieD and Jed York.
No way Kyle and Lynch would still be around if he was still in control. Jed just cares about raking in the revenue, even if it means making fools out of the fans

This may shock you...but Kyle and Lynch haven't been here 31 years.

Nor is Eddie saying he wouldn't go 31 years without a championships mean a damn thing. Owners don't get to choose these things.

Do you think Kyle and Lynch would still be here if Eddie was owner ?

I don't know. I believe Eddie is smart enough to understand the things we've discussed here so if I had to put money on it, yes I would put money on them being here under his ownership. But obviously I have no idea.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Eddie DeBartolo was asked how frustrating it would be to go 31 years without a championship as an owner?

"I wouldn't." #49ers | #FTTB pic.twitter.com/vylBDaG7Eb

— Matt Lively (@mattblively) January 28, 2026

GOAT.

The difference between EddieD and Jed York.
No way Kyle and Lynch would still be around if he was still in control. Jed just cares about raking in the revenue, even if it means making fools out of the fans

Absolutely correct. Thats why there's a documentary about him and the dynasty.

there won't be a documentary about Jed or Kyle in 30 Years. Wonder why.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Eddie DeBartolo was asked how frustrating it would be to go 31 years without a championship as an owner?

"I wouldn't." #49ers | #FTTB pic.twitter.com/vylBDaG7Eb

— Matt Lively (@mattblively) January 28, 2026

GOAT.

The difference between EddieD and Jed York.
No way Kyle and Lynch would still be around if he was still in control. Jed just cares about raking in the revenue, even if it means making fools out of the fans

This may shock you...but Kyle and Lynch haven't been here 31 years.

Nor is Eddie saying he wouldn't go 31 years without a championships mean a damn thing. Owners don't get to choose these things.

Do you think Kyle and Lynch would still be here if Eddie was owner ?

I don't know. I believe Eddie is smart enough to understand the things we've discussed here so if I had to put money on it, yes I would put money on them being here under his ownership. But obviously I have no idea.

Nobody is saying he would 100% win a championship. But I know for a fact that he would do EVERYTHING in his power to win. That was his goal. Jed's goal is is to lone his pockets and fool the fans. "The faithful" was a fantastic slogan for manipulating the fans into accepting mediocrity.