49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Kyle has become too dependent on CMC.

As has the team and roster. We need playmakers in addition to pass rushers.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
8 qtrs without a td is unacceptable. Mike Macdonald with kubiak knowledge might be his kryptonite.

Kyle has become too dependent on CMC.

That's basically all Kyle had this yr lol.

kubiak is gonna be a HC this off season and they will have to look for another OC.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
8 qtrs without a td is unacceptable. Mike Macdonald with kubiak knowledge might be his kryptonite.

Kyle has become too dependent on CMC.

That's basically all Kyle had this yr lol.

kubiak is gonna be a HC this off season and they will have to look for another OC.

You don't think he could have gave Robinson more touches?

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Kyle has become too dependent on CMC.

As has the team and roster. We need playmakers in addition to pass rushers.

Clearly the plan wasn't giving CMC 150 targets heading into this yr.. BA turned into a b***h, our young WRs couldn't figure out s**t and everyone else was playing injured all damn yr.

Kyle made chicken salad with chicken s**t.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Clearly the plan wasn't giving CMC 150 targets heading into this yr.. BA turned into a b***h, our young WRs couldn't figure out s**t and everyone else was playing injured all damn yr.

Kyle made chicken salad with chicken s**t.

Oh I agree he had no choice due to the circumstances you mention.

We just need to have additional options added for next season. I agree(d) with you on Breece Hall or a Kyle Pitts to add to the offense.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Kyle has become too dependent on CMC.

As has the team and roster. We need playmakers in addition to pass rushers.

Clearly the plan wasn't giving CMC 150 targets heading into this yr.. BA turned into a b***h, our young WRs couldn't figure out s**t and everyone else was playing injured all damn yr.

Kyle made chicken salad with chicken s**t.

I don't disagree. But let's not pretend that Kyle doesn't run his players into the ground. He did the same with Deebo. There's no doubt that he becomes over-reliant on certain players.

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Clearly the plan wasn't giving CMC 150 targets heading into this yr.. BA turned into a b***h, our young WRs couldn't figure out s**t and everyone else was playing injured all damn yr.

Kyle made chicken salad with chicken s**t.

Oh I agree he had no choice due to the circumstances you mention.

We just need to have additional options added for next season. I agree(d) with you on Breece Hall or a Kyle Pitts to add to the offense.

Breece Hall yes Kyle Pitts no.

Originally posted by Sickaa:
You don't think he could have gave Robinson more touches?

To do what? They couldn't run the ball at all regardless of who was there. We're acting like Robinson is some RB1 type talent. Dude is a 8-10 carry RB in the NFL. Does nothing particularly well. There's a reason he was basically nothing in a trade.

CMC was the only steady thing we had on offense. He's going the Alvin Kamara route as more of a pass catcher than elite RB. Sucks but imo that's what I thought his special talent was when he was coming here. He's got a couple yrs in that role which is fine.

We need more juice at RB, maybe this James or maybe it's a Breece Hall type signing to go with CMC.

imo we gotta improve at center. That changes the whole dynamics of the OL.

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:
Oh I agree he had no choice due to the circumstances you mention.

We just need to have additional options added for next season. I agree(d) with you on Breece Hall or a Kyle Pitts to add to the offense.

Kyle pitts? Yeah no thanks. We don't need a slot WR.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:
Oh I agree he had no choice due to the circumstances you mention.

We just need to have additional options added for next season. I agree(d) with you on Breece Hall or a Kyle Pitts to add to the offense.

Kyle pitts? Yeah no thanks. We don't need a slot WR.

I mean we do but not a dude who only showed up his contract year. I think we all have had enough of those kinda players.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:
Oh I agree he had no choice due to the circumstances you mention.

We just need to have additional options added for next season. I agree(d) with you on Breece Hall or a Kyle Pitts to add to the offense.

Kyle pitts? Yeah no thanks. We don't need a slot WR.

I mean we do but not a dude who only showed up his contract year. I think we all have had enough of those kinda players.

100% this. Dude has completely underwhelmed until this year. He's also soft and not the type of guy we want here.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Two bad decisions that put us in a hole right off the bat.

1) defer to kick after winning the coin toss

-in essence taking the ball out of your best unit's hands and putting your weakened battered unit on the field first to counter in a loud stadium against a rested team. Instead they score on the return and you're already in a hole.

2) choosing to go with a horizontal FB option on 4th down when you should have really done a QB sneak x 2 on 3rd and 4th or at least have CMC or BRob run towards Trent Williams.

those two plays put us in a 10 point hole that we were just not built to get out of. It's a thing with Shanahan. Great play caller just doesn't have the nuts and bolts to understand the flow of the game. Year 10 and still hasn't learned…

You're100% spot on. This game wasnt just about injuries. There were a multitude of mistakes made by shanahan, the same type of mistakes that reveal themselves every single year, specifically in big moments. Why kick the ball when just last week you drove down the field, took the crowd out of it, and set the tone for the game? That kick return was also about coaching. It was about getting your team up for the big moment. The niners failed to match that and that's on shanahan. The play calling on 3rd and 4th down was inexcusable on the first drive.

I can't stress enough that being a good play caller and designer doesn't make you a good head coach. Shanahan continues to get shutdown against good defensive minds. The 49ers need no injuries and pro bowl talent across the board to overcome shanahan against good defensive coordinators.

we are going to run it back next year this time without saleh and with cmc a year older. We won't have the same soft schedule. We will likely have injuries again. Nothing will change.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
You don't think he could have gave Robinson more touches?

To do what? They couldn't run the ball at all regardless of who was there. We're acting like Robinson is some RB1 type talent. Dude is a 8-10 carry RB in the NFL. Does nothing particularly well. There's a reason he was basically nothing in a trade.

CMC was the only steady thing we had on offense. He's going the Alvin Kamara route as more of a pass catcher than elite RB. Sucks but imo that's what I thought his special talent was when he was coming here. He's got a couple yrs in that role which is fine.

We need more juice at RB, maybe this James or maybe it's a Breece Hall type signing to go with CMC.

imo we gotta improve at center. That changes the whole dynamics of the OL.

I wish we would improve at center. Brendel signed through 2026, and we know the team won't move away from him for anything other than injury. One thing that bothers me about the O Line is the lack of consideration for improving it. The starters are penciled in until they get injured or contracts expire.

It's coaching when the players can't do their one job and tackle a kick returner. Because of course it is.

I remember watching the 49ers in the 80s and the way they were able to dominate week after week. Walsh designed an offense that was way ahead of what the defenses were designed to stop. It took several years before teams were able to bring in ther right type of palyers and design a defense that could slow them down. I recall Bill saying shortly before he passed away that he would have to design a differnet offense to cointer the new defenses that were being used.

Seattle spent the last 3 or 4 years drafting players that could fit a defense designed to stop what Kyle and McVay are doing. It looks like this year they've finally accomplished that. At least with the Niners. Now it's time for Kyle and John to start bringing in the speed they need to counter those defenses. Maybe Kyle needs to use the off season to come up with some new wrinkles to confuse them. The running game isn't producing the same big holes it was a few years ago. The short passes aren't getting the same YAC as they were.

Better, faster players and some different looks. Let's see what happens.