49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by bud49:
I agree with what you said on the injuries etc etc, but it was a blowout to me I'm just saying Kyle needs to not make it any less than what it was. Nothing wrong with the blowout due to being down several players just don't try to smooth it out.

And part of it is they have drafted better than we have in several of the last drafts. Plus this team is getting older.

Its not smoothing it out, its recognizing that the Seahawks are probably the best team, were at home, and a disastrous start with the KR TD made the momentum almost impossible to overcome. We just played two weeks ago and its was 13-3. It just happened that the game unraveled early from the way it started. At full strength we probably beat Seattle, but thats neither here nor there.

The Broncos won yesterday via their second OT possession. The Bills deferred and never got their 2nd possession.
The Rams also won today via their second OT possession. The Bears deferred and never got their 2nd possession.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

The Broncos won yesterday via their second OT possession. The Bills deferred and never got their 2nd possession.
The Rams also won today via their second OT possession. The Bears deferred and never got their 2nd possession.

And nobody questioned either coach because they made the right decision. Nobody ever said making the right coaching decision guarantees a win, we just expect our coach to make the right decisions and be prepared for the moment and he wasn't

The tactical advantages that come with getting the ball second came into play in our SB loss, so it's even worse for Kyle

To me I always figured Kyle took the ball because our Defense looked gassed to end Regulation. Chiefs went on drives of 12 and 11 plays in the 4th Quarter

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
The Broncos won yesterday via their second OT possession. The Bills deferred and never got their 2nd possession.
The Rams also won today via their second OT possession. The Bears deferred and never got their 2nd possession.

And nobody questioned either coach because they made the right decision. Nobody ever said making the right coaching decision guarantees a win, we just expect our coach to make the right decisions and be prepared for the moment and he wasn't

The tactical advantages that come with getting the ball second came into play in our SB loss, so it's even worse for Kyle

I think you're misunderstanding - Broncos and Rams did take the ball first, as did Shanahan. Right?

Looks like I was right lol. You immediately assumed the winning teams today did the opposite of what Shanahan did and that's not true…

Last night McVay took responsability for bad coaching in the DP playoffs in his presser.
was when the last time you heard Kyle ?
personaly i have no such memory, ever
after seahawks game he started has usual to say « we could have played better » and then he said « we could have coached better » it is better than nothing but he
didnt say « i could have » or « ultimately it is my responsability » or something like that.
i think when you leader cant take full responsability it's a problem…

8 qtrs without a td is unacceptable. Mike Macdonald with kubiak knowledge might be his kryptonite.

Originally posted by 49Fever:
Last night McVay took responsability for bad coaching in the DP playoffs in his presser.
was when the last time you heard Kyle ?
personaly i have no such memory, ever
after seahawks game he started has usual to say « we could have played better » and then he said « we could have coached better » it is better than nothing but he
didnt say « i could have » or « ultimately it is my responsability » or something like that.
i think when you leader cant take full responsability it's a problem…

Reading too much into it imo.

McVay always says that to the point it sounds like generic coach speak whenever he opens his mouth.

He says "I", Kyle says "we", but at the end of the day how the players play week in and week out tells you more about the coach and they both appear to have teams who play hard for them.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
8 qtrs without a td is unacceptable. Mike Macdonald with kubiak knowledge might be his kryptonite.

We are gonna continue to get worked by the Seahawks next season.
We'll see how this fanbase feels after the hawks or rams win a Super Bowl on our home field.

32 years and counting……………

Originally posted by 90sFortyNiner:
To me I always figured Kyle took the ball because our Defense looked gassed to end Regulation. Chiefs went on drives of 12 and 11 plays in the 4th Quarter

He did it because he "thought" he was playing 4D chess vs Reid. Kyle was playing for the 3rd possession. He thought the Niners could score a TD, then KC would come back and score a TD, then the Niners would have a 3rd possession for the game winning drive. Reid on the other hand had no plans for a third possession. His team was going for the jugular on their sole possession even if it meant going for 2 at the end.

Reid played it right. Kyle did not. Even the players acknowledged they were surprised at Kyle taking the ball first. One of many playoff oofs in Kyle's resume…

Kyle never had that killer instinct. He always looked soft, never hard and in control. Other coaches probably respect that he's a great offensive genius. But what good is a genius if he doesn't know how to go in for the kill. You've got to be the lion, not the prey. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how to take out your opponent. Especially, when you have the lead and control of the game, also he has to make better decisions and choices during the draft, as well...

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

The Broncos won yesterday via their second OT possession. The Bills deferred and never got their 2nd possession.
The Rams also won today via their second OT possession. The Bears deferred and never got their 2nd possession.

And nobody questioned either coach because they made the right decision. Nobody ever said making the right coaching decision guarantees a win, we just expect our coach to make the right decisions and be prepared for the moment and he wasn't

The tactical advantages that come with getting the ball second came into play in our SB loss, so it's even worse for Kyle

I think you're misunderstanding - Broncos and Rams did take the ball first, as did Shanahan. Right?

Looks like I was right lol. You immediately assumed the winning teams today did the opposite of what Shanahan did and that's not true…

No

Still debating s**t from years ago?

my god if anyone watched these games this past weekend they'd have a f**king clue on how coaching overall didn't determine the outcomes. Bills had how many TOs? Ridiculous PI calls. That last Williams TD has absolutely zero to do with coaching. CJ stroud went full simple Jack. SF was clearly out gunned by a better roster in Seattle.

coaching matters without question, especially from a culture building standpoint and X's and O's. Both of which SF has in spades….you need talent and execution to make s**t work and toss in some luck to go all the way. We lost talent every damn week and at some point you can't hang.

f**king people need to stop the whining, Kyle isn't getting fired and probably gets and extension based of this yr. I know that's gonna be real hard for the couple fans who scream the loudest in here to handle….get over it or go root for someone else.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by bud49:
I agree with what you said on the injuries etc etc, but it was a blowout to me I'm just saying Kyle needs to not make it any less than what it was. Nothing wrong with the blowout due to being down several players just don't try to smooth it out.

And part of it is they have drafted better than we have in several of the last drafts. Plus this team is getting older.

Its not smoothing it out, its recognizing that the Seahawks are probably the best team, were at home, and a disastrous start with the KR TD made the momentum almost impossible to overcome. We just played two weeks ago and its was 13-3. It just happened that the game unraveled early from the way it started. At full strength we probably beat Seattle, but thats neither here nor there.

We still allow a kick return a full strength
We still run a... sigh....a f**king FB option on the short part of the field against the strong part of the D
We still run up the middle on 3rd and 3
Pearsall still drops that first down

Now yes... Seattle is the better team due to injuries but this game was poorly coached in EVERY single aspect against Seattle. These guys injured or not were not prepared to play like Seattle was. If I'm wrong I'm curious as to what anyone found well coached. That doesn't mean I want Kyle fired or hate the guy but bad coaching from top to bottom was why this game was never even remotely close. From the opening kickoff to the final whistle this team got beat in pretty much every aspect.

Originally posted by Grande:
We still allow a kick return a full strength
We still run a... sigh....a f**king FB option on the short part of the field against the strong part of the D
We still run up the middle on 3rd and 3
Pearsall still drops that first down

Now yes... Seattle is the better team due to injuries but this game was poorly coached in EVERY single aspect against Seattle. These guys injured or not were not prepared to play like Seattle was. If I'm wrong I'm curious as to what anyone found well coached. That doesn't mean I want Kyle fired or hate the guy but bad coaching from top to bottom was why this game was never even remotely close. From the opening kickoff to the final whistle this team got beat in pretty much every aspect.

If there was one series of plays I couldn't understand WTF Kyle was doing it was the FB option on 4th down. My god if the plan was to go for it twice qb sneak it twice. Brock has been amazing that….head scratcher for sure.

As far as being prepared, they had like 4 days and played like 3 games in 13 days or something. At some point something is gonna give. We were a dam being held together with glue and flex tape.

this was Kyle and Saleh all year….