49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Man... a lot of haters from earlier in this thread got stfu lmao

Well, I don't know if I qualify as a "hater" (why? I just want the team to win and won't take excuses in the meantime), but I was a critic and here I am.

I am delighted we're finally winning and playing professional football, as opposed to "moral victories" and football that would be considered sloppy at Div 1-AA level. I'm still not 100% happy that we are not getting enough TDs for our yardage and at the continuing rash of penalties, but I'm certainly happier than I was a month ago. I will be even happier if we continue on this path AND sort out the penalties and low redzone efficiency.

Do 4 victories out of 5 make me a Shanahan "believer"? No, just as I was never a "hater". Managers are judged by results, and his are improving. Good, but can do better. If we go back to "moral victories" I will be back to being critical.

The one subject I will definitely eat crow on is Jimmy Garoppolo (whom my 3 y.o niece keeps calling "Gruffalo" to widespread merriment). I admit that I feared the second coming of Cassel, but he's certainly looking the part up to this point.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

As of today the 49ers are the #14 ranked offense and #21 ranked defense!!!!

Arrow up!!!

This was tweeted yesterday.....speaks to our struggles for a decade and a half. Ranks based on YPG

Better than all but one of the Harbaugh years.

To be fair Jimmy G is the only real Franchise QB compared to all of those teams.

He's only started 3 games though. Plus, the talent difference is crazy. We had a top 5 o-line with Harbaugh. Crabtree, Davis, Gore, Moss, Walker, Boldin, Hunter...Shanahan has a bottom 5 o-line and very few pieces to work with. He is running a real offense and getting the most out of the team

what I like best about Kyle is the team seems to enjoy playing together and for him. I already knew he could put up offensive stats so I'm not worried about that...he just needs players. But I was worried if he could improve team chemistry. Look forward to the future.

Originally posted by saniner:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
As of today the 49ers are the #14 ranked offense and #21 ranked defense!!!!

Arrow up!!!

This was tweeted yesterday.....speaks to our struggles for a decade and a half. Ranks based on YPG

Better than all but one of the Harbaugh years.

To be fair Jimmy G is the only real Franchise QB compared to all of those teams.

He's only started 3 games though. Plus, the talent difference is crazy. We had a top 5 o-line with Harbaugh. Crabtree, Davis, Gore, Moss, Walker, Boldin, Hunter...Shanahan has a bottom 5 o-line and very few pieces to work with. He is running a real offense and getting the most out of the team

Also note that this year's 17th ranked offense is heavily imbalanced with a low ranking during the Hoyer/CJ games. Think if Jimmy G started the year, we would be in the top 10.

Now we just need to match that ranking in TDs also.

Originally posted by susweel:
Mcvay is 3-1 with a top offense in the NFL. Shanny 0-4 and cant score a TD in 75% of his games. lol thats pathetic

haha

Originally posted by susweel:
Good coaching does wonders.

lol

Originally posted by DRnSFw:
we hired the wrong coach, should've hired that kid Sean McVay

LOL

Originally posted by susweel:
Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me. Facts and facts 3 of 4 games no TDs. Very poor job of coaching offense.

Originally posted by cciowa:
to get to 8-8 requires more than a qb guys. it would be a major deal and i would be glad to own up to it. just as i owned up to it when i was wrong to ask to give jt some time and same with chip. i am losing confidence with kyle and lynch so i am pretty sure i am not going to be in position to own up to it because i think this is a no one team this year and in next year,. would that be year 5 of the rebuild plan,. we may bump it up to three wins. but then you have to over pay for people just to get them here and if we are no wins. why the hell would anyone want to come here. least of all kirk

Originally posted by captveg:
My block list grows and grows. I just can't deal with the constant pessimism anymore. This fanbase needs to grow a pair and exercise some reasonable patience.

good job of you for exuding patience and exhibiting a common sense of understanding the situation that Shanahan came into. Good fan.

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by jcs:
Just looked up new numbers...

We are 26th in redzone scoring. Tied for 25th in scoring. Tied for 30th in TD's per game. 16th in total yards. 20th in Passing yards and 20th in Rushing yards.

31st in 3rd down % at 30%.

lol offensive genius

We have a s**t ton of penalties, lots of stupid ones also. Don't even get me started on that kick return gaffe where the two return men collided.

Penalties...oh god we are 32nd leading the league in total flags thrown by 2 over Seattle. In terms of pentalties counting against us we're 32nd and lead the league by 7.

That's all on the coaches.

simple. wrong.

Originally posted by susweel:
So according to many here these are things Shanny is not responsible for.

0-5 record
Crappy offense
Excessive penalties
Poor red zone offense
Poor 3rd down offense

And obviously the defense

Anything else ?

It's amazing what a QB can do to a team that apparently has a 'crappy offense'. it's almost as if the lack of a decent QB was the reason, not the HC or play-calling. Lol. It's amazing how fans couldn't see the difference in situations between Shanny and McVay in that Rams game. And we scored almost 40 points even still. It's like pessimistic fans are incapable of 0 foresight and perspective.

it's amazing to think that when Shanahan has a good QB, like in Atlanta, his offense thrives.

but when he doesn't have a competent QB, his offense is trash.

lol, some fans.

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

what I like best about Kyle is the team seems to enjoy playing together and for him. I already knew he could put up offensive stats so I'm not worried about that...he just needs players. But I was worried if he could improve team chemistry. Look forward to the future.

He's an X's and O's rat and a football lifer. I think players recognize that. I also think that his age helps in relating to everyone.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
what I like best about Kyle is the team seems to enjoy playing together and for him. I already knew he could put up offensive stats so I'm not worried about that...he just needs players. But I was worried if he could improve team chemistry. Look forward to the future.

He's an X's and O's rat and a football lifer. I think players recognize that. I also think that his age helps in relating to everyone.

he's the one who prolly chooses the music they play when they run onto the field

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by susweel:

Mcvay is 3-1 with a top offense in the NFL. Shanny 0-4 and cant score a TD in 75% of his games. lol thats pathetic

haha

Originally posted by susweel:

Good coaching does wonders.

lol

Originally posted by DRnSFw:

we hired the wrong coach, should've hired that kid Sean McVay

LOL

Originally posted by susweel:

Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me. Facts and facts 3 of 4 games no TDs. Very poor job of coaching offense.

Originally posted by cciowa:

to get to 8-8 requires more than a qb guys. it would be a major deal and i would be glad to own up to it. just as i owned up to it when i was wrong to ask to give jt some time and same with chip. i am losing confidence with kyle and lynch so i am pretty sure i am not going to be in position to own up to it because i think this is a no one team this year and in next year,. would that be year 5 of the rebuild plan,. we may bump it up to three wins. but then you have to over pay for people just to get them here and if we are no wins. why the hell would anyone want to come here. least of all kirk

Originally posted by captveg:

My block list grows and grows. I just can't deal with the constant pessimism anymore. This fanbase needs to grow a pair and exercise some reasonable patience.

good job of you for exuding patience and exhibiting a common sense of understanding the situation that Shanahan came into. Good fan.

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by jcs:

Just looked up new numbers...

We are 26th in redzone scoring. Tied for 25th in scoring. Tied for 30th in TD's per game. 16th in total yards. 20th in Passing yards and 20th in Rushing yards.

31st in 3rd down % at 30%.

lol offensive genius

We have a s**t ton of penalties, lots of stupid ones also. Don't even get me started on that kick return gaffe where the two return men collided.

Penalties...oh god we are 32nd leading the league in total flags thrown by 2 over Seattle. In terms of pentalties counting against us we're 32nd and lead the league by 7.

That's all on the coaches.

simple. wrong.

Originally posted by susweel:

So according to many here these are things Shanny is not responsible for.

0-5 record
Crappy offense
Excessive penalties
Poor red zone offense
Poor 3rd down offense

And obviously the defense

Anything else ?

It's amazing what a QB can do to a team that apparently has a 'crappy offense'. it's almost as if the lack of a decent QB was the reason, not the HC or play-calling. Lol. It's amazing how fans couldn't see the difference in situations between Shanny and McVay in that Rams game. And we scored almost 40 points even still. It's like pessimistic fans are incapable of 0 foresight and perspective.

it's amazing to think that when Shanahan has a good QB, like in Atlanta, his offense thrives.

but when he doesn't have a competent QB, his offense is trash.

lol, some fans.

Lol nice

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
As of today the 49ers are the #14 ranked offense and #21 ranked defense!!!!

Arrow up!!!

This was tweeted yesterday.....speaks to our struggles for a decade and a half. Ranks based on YPG


Now in the good old days....we only had 3 teams finish out of the top 10 and 1 finish at 10. Other than that it's was always a top 10 or better unit.




Haha....our worst offense yardage rank wise during our dynasty run was the 1981 championship team.

I just wanted to add that our defensive rank during that time span was at least (minimum) 8th in defense (if you take away 1982 and 1993 stat years). Our super bowl years, the defense was ranked 2, 2, 2, 1, 6 - respectively. We barely lost our 6th with a 2nd ranked defense under Harbaugh. As much as I love offense and Kyle's system and our brand spankin' new Franchise QB in JImmy GQ, super bowls are won by defense.

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

what I like best about Kyle is the team seems to enjoy playing together and for him. I already knew he could put up offensive stats so I'm not worried about that...he just needs players. But I was worried if he could improve team chemistry. Look forward to the future.

He's an X's and O's rat and a football lifer. I think players recognize that. I also think that his age helps in relating to everyone.

he's the one who prolly chooses the music they play when they run onto the field

These. Plus lynch badly misses playing you can see it. Kyle and him are building great team chemistry, it's going to be special here soon you can just feel it

Originally posted by Eastcoastniner:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
what I like best about Kyle is the team seems to enjoy playing together and for him. I already knew he could put up offensive stats so I'm not worried about that...he just needs players. But I was worried if he could improve team chemistry. Look forward to the future.

He's an X's and O's rat and a football lifer. I think players recognize that. I also think that his age helps in relating to everyone.

he's the one who prolly chooses the music they play when they run onto the field

These. Plus lynch badly misses playing you can see it. Kyle and him are building great team chemistry, it's going to be special here soon you can just feel it

It's really important for GM and HC to talk. I know that Walsh leaned on McVay a ton during his years here and they were always on the same page. I can see that developing with Kyle and John. I think it was really important that Kyle chose John and Jed allowed this to happen. Biggest decision Jed made was to let Kyle chose his GM. That got us Grap from Bellicheat. I look forward to the 2018 draft and free agency period. I think they can continue to be successful as long as they stay on the same page together.

Originally posted by defenderDX:
haha

lol

LOL





good job of you for exuding patience and exhibiting a common sense of understanding the situation that Shanahan came into. Good fan.

simple. wrong.

It's amazing what a QB can do to a team that apparently has a 'crappy offense'. it's almost as if the lack of a decent QB was the reason, not the HC or play-calling. Lol. It's amazing how fans couldn't see the difference in situations between Shanny and McVay in that Rams game. And we scored almost 40 points even still. It's like pessimistic fans are incapable of 0 foresight and perspective.

it's amazing to think that when Shanahan has a good QB, like in Atlanta, his offense thrives.

but when he doesn't have a competent QB, his offense is trash.

lol, some fans.

there are still major concerns with this team and just because jimmy has arrived and has made alot of things better., does not mean we are over some hump. the legit concerns some have are still there..i understand it makes you feel good and giddy and you must have alot of time on your hands to rehash posts which at the time were legit concerns fans had.

This guy knows how to scheme and play call. Dudes were running around wide open all game, in particular that final drive.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Man... a lot of haters from earlier in this thread got stfu lmao

people who are and were and still do express concerns about our team are not haters but whatever gets you through the day. i feel bad for everyone who is upset we are winning games and not doing moral victories anymore cuz it screws up our draft position

Originally posted by Eastcoastniner:
Creating that winning culture, next year is gonna be fun

i never understood people who poohed poohed a team winning games late in the season and building momentum . enthusiasm and excitement for the next year.