49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Monsterniner:

Originally posted by Ninerforever:
Kyle is up for COTY, anyone who wants to get rid of him is just plain stupid. How do we even have a shot at first seed? Kyle is a genius.

He is good enough to make the playoffs and keep getting extensions but he isn't good enough to take that final jump.

Shanahan is the Prescott of the coaches.

AGREE!!

someone with a brain would have kept drafting OL after OL rather than RB after RB when it's actually our strongest position... I'm not sure GENIUS is a word that should be link to KS10.

Originally posted by 9moon:
AGREE!!

someone with a brain would have kept drafting OL after OL rather than RB after RB when it's actually our strongest position... I'm not sure GENIUS is a word that should be link to KS10.

Wahhhh my football team only won 12 games this yr with backups all over the place, what a horrible coaching job wahhh. My god listen to yourselves.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
AGREE!!

someone with a brain would have kept drafting OL after OL rather than RB after RB when it's actually our strongest position... I'm not sure GENIUS is a word that should be link to KS10.

Wahhhh my football team only won 12 games this yr with backups all over the place, what a horrible coaching job wahhh. My god listen to yourselves.

Raise a banner!!!

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
AGREE!!

someone with a brain would have kept drafting OL after OL rather than RB after RB when it's actually our strongest position... I'm not sure GENIUS is a word that should be link to KS10.

Wahhhh my football team only won 12 games this yr with backups all over the place, what a horrible coaching job wahhh. My god listen to yourselves.

Raise a banner!!!

Quit acting like our team and coach are dogs**t! Quit conveniently leaving out nuance to push a f**king stupid narrative. Only one team can win a SB every yr….that doesn't mean 31 teams suck. I know that might be hard to grasp.

The Seahawks game was depressing because it was a huge indication of the challenge for next year -- the Seahawks D-Line absolutely smothered the 9ers offense with only 4 rushers, so with 7 dropped in coverage (and no Pearsall) the concepts weren't working. The Rams seem to be capable of this as well. This was the worst time for TW to be out - but he's out a few games every season. Pleasants wasn't terrible - actually given what he was up against he did better than expected.

But TW being out changes everything -- the help needed to switch to LT, now the other 4 linemen are left 1 on 1 - usually the help goes to them.

This isn't making excuses - but Kittle also seemed limited in his movement -- not getting to his blocks quickly and only running shorter routes (and even screens).

Given the short weeks, and the SEA offense - the 9ers Defense was terrible from the 20 - 20, but held the m to 13 points. Hard to ask more than that -- even if they made both field goals it would still be sub-20 points.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by socal1632:
Now you're going into next year depending on a DE with a history of 3 knees, to hold up. There is nothing else on that line, except run stuffers. You traded away Huff and Greenlaw. What is the point of this franchise. 32 years. 32 years. 32 years.

Some of you guys come in here simply just to complain. You're contradicting your thoughts in your own post.

You're concerned about injuries but in the next sentence complain about the team "trading" away Huf(Huff is the guy we traded for who is on the team...who also happens to be only a pass rusher which contradicts your run stuffer only point) and Greenlaw - both players who have a large injury history who also have nothing to do with line play since they're a safety and a linebacker.

What is the point of this franchise the man says...as they're in the playoffs despite crazy impact injuries in a retool season.

Folks can't keep s**t real. Complain about Greenlaw and Huff being gone, yet they couldn't stay on the field….then complaining about injured players. Lol

buddy acts like going to multiple SBs, NFCCs and taking a team that everyone thought was a sub .500 team to 12 wins and a playoff appearance is some s**tty thing isn't being serious with objective debating. They're simply hating and trying to cherry pick anything negative about Kyle all while contradicting themselves.

If they got out of their little Kyle hater club bubble they're understand how bad the coaching is in the NFL. Every yr it's like 6-10 teams looking for a new HC.

the takes are so f**king stupid in here. Bunch of whiny fans.

Yet two guys…Mike McDonald and Ben Johnson (both candidates that were brought up repeatedly when Kyle's fan club asked "well, who would you replace him with?") have their teams primed for a deep run.

Oh, and there's this guy that everyone laughed at…

https://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl/196292-two-wordshellipsean-payton/

Three potential quality candidates that could have replaced Shanahan and had this team primed for a SB run, but no….you guys like to pretend there are no good coaches around except for Shanahan

Mike McDonald isn't doing anything with the injuries that Shanahan had to deal with. Neither is Ben Johnson.

You were awfully quiet last week when Ben Johnson took an L by....oh yeah Kyle Shanahan.

Where was McDonald's brilliance week 1 when they lost to us? Shouldn't his brilliance allow him to beat Kyle always?

It must so much intestinal fortitude to stare logic and reason in the face and say "nah, no need for that. I'm just going to say whatever sounds good to me"

Also Mike McDonald took over a 9-8 team and got handed a beautiful situation thanks to that other guy you're propping up handing over a bunch of premium picks for a HORRIBLE contract in Russell Wilson.

Got a backup QB, starting TE and DT and 2 first round picks and 2 second round picks with Pete Carroll drafting most of those top players helping them now.

Things fell perfectly for Seattle under McDonald. Byron Murphy dropping cuz of the crazy rush of offensive players. Easily the best DT in the draft then got Emmanwori who is basically his Kyle Hamilton falling to them.

Wow what a masterful rebuild McDonald had to take on...

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Monsterniner:

Originally posted by Ninerforever:
Kyle is up for COTY, anyone who wants to get rid of him is just plain stupid. How do we even have a shot at first seed? Kyle is a genius.

He is good enough to make the playoffs and keep getting extensions but he isn't good enough to take that final jump.

Shanahan is the Prescott of the coaches.

AGREE!!

someone with a brain would have kept drafting OL after OL rather than RB after RB when it's actually our strongest position... I'm not sure GENIUS is a word that should be link to KS10.

I think Marino is a better player comparison. People are entitled to their negative opinions about Kyle, but come on don't do him like that

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by BYisGod:

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Tonges and kittle have been on the field together 7 times this season.
that's a helluva way to maximize your roster Kyle.

What's wild is that we've been clamoring for a good backup TE for an eternity. Now we have one…and we don't play him.

Tonges is good as a receiver but he's not a good blocker. Scheme wise he's basically TE3. How many 3 TE sets do we run? That takes Juice off the field.

Maybe it's something we do in the playoffs but let's not act like Tonges is the key to unlocking the offense lol. When Seattle is able to stop our run game playing nickel...a TE who's not a great blocker isn't going to suddenly break things open.

Yeah that should happen because juice sucks.

There's a reason teams don't use a fullback.

Tell me what he's actually good at that tonges is not better at?

He can't win on short yardage runs and hes a slow ass receiver that can't break tackles... IE he's worthless...

Ohh but the block....ohh but the blocking... Tonges blocking so underrated....

Dumbest argument ever.

lol you literally have people breaking down the impact Juice is having to the offense and how beneficial he is but here you are acting like you know more.

Dumbest argument ever...cuz you don't understand what's happening out there.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by alwayssecond:
Heartbreak after heartbreak

this f**king team

shanahan and all the ofrense were disgusting tonight

3 points for the BEST " USED TO BE YOUNG" MIND IN FOOTBALL..

They had poor starting position most of the game because the defense wasn't doing their part. Even when the Seahawks didn't score they ate up clock and drove deep enough that they kept the Niners bottled up.

If we were Seahawks fans we would be braggung about how great the defense did against a high scoring offense.

... and i'll keep going back to my OLDEST POINT that Shanny just clueless when it's time to ADJUST.. everyone saw how good Seattle's D was playing.. yet, nothing changed in the 2nd half w/the way he was calling the plays..

.. and at least, DEMAND Saleh to get off that BLANKET COVERAGE where the targets continue to just find holes after holes..

What are you babbling about man? What would YOU change?

Let's just ignore the big drive we had in the 2nd half that should've been a TD instead of a pick of CMCs hands.

Our starting field position in the 2nd half was on our 12, 9, 30(which was that drive) and 20(with 2:20 left down 10)

What are you "adjusting"?

What are you babbling about man? - " You Mad Bro ? "

What would YOU change? - Where you NOT watching the game? Where you happy w/our D scheme vs Seattle ?? or you just gonna keep saying " WE MISSIN PLAYERS.. "

Let's just ignore the big drive we had in the 2nd half that should've been a TD instead of a pick of CMCs hands. - That's part of Shanny's jinks, how many UNFORTUNATELY plays do YOU need to witness before you get convinced that Shanny not getting us another ring?

Our starting field position in the 2nd half was on our 12, 9, 30(which was that drive) and 20(with 2:20 left down 10) - for one thing, throw MORE to the flats.. Where you not watching how Seattle's D was getting to us quicker? - answer to that is to get away FROM crossing patterns which (if you did not know) takes a long while to develop especially that we do not have SPEED at the WR position.

What are you "adjusting"? - do you feel that nothing more we can do.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
AGREE!!

someone with a brain would have kept drafting OL after OL rather than RB after RB when it's actually our strongest position... I'm not sure GENIUS is a word that should be link to KS10.

Wahhhh my football team only won 12 games this yr with backups all over the place, what a horrible coaching job wahhh. My god listen to yourselves.

Raise a banner!!!

I'm getting really tired of you guys trying to gate keep whether other fans can enjoy a season.

Nobody is raising banners for regular season wins but people are allowed to enjoy watching their team win. Just take the joy you get when Kyle loses a game and imagine what others feel when we win. Don't you want that for them?

But seriously...you, DrEll, etc need to stop the ridiculous narrative that other fans aren't good enough or don't care enough if they celebrate wins and playoff seasons that don't end in a SB victory.

You're not the fan police. This is a 49ers message board. The majority of people are here because they love this team. They're allowed to enjoy the ride even if the end isn't what we all want.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
AGREE!!

someone with a brain would have kept drafting OL after OL rather than RB after RB when it's actually our strongest position... I'm not sure GENIUS is a word that should be link to KS10.

Wahhhh my football team only won 12 games this yr with backups all over the place, what a horrible coaching job wahhh. My god listen to yourselves.

Raise a banner!!!

Quit acting like our team and coach are dogs**t! Quit conveniently leaving out nuance to push a f**king stupid narrative. Only one team can win a SB every yr….that doesn't mean 31 teams suck. I know that might be hard to grasp.

Stop acting like a 12-win season should guarantee you a place in the 49ers' Ring of Honor.

Originally posted by genus49:
I'm getting really tired of you guys trying to gate keep whether other fans can enjoy a season.

Nobody is raising banners for regular season wins but people are allowed to enjoy watching their team win. Just take the joy you get when Kyle loses a game and imagine what others feel when we win. Don't you want that for them?

But seriously...you, DrEll, etc need to stop the ridiculous narrative that other fans aren't good enough or don't care enough if they celebrate wins and playoff seasons that don't end in a SB victory.

You're not the fan police. This is a 49ers message board. The majority of people are here because they love this team. They're allowed to enjoy the ride even if the end isn't what we all want.

We're also allowed to expect / demand a higher standard from the HC / GM / owner / players without getting mocked by other posters.

Originally posted by 9moon:
What are you babbling about man? - " You Mad Bro ? "

What would YOU change? - Where you NOT watching the game? Where you happy w/our D scheme vs Seattle ?? or you just gonna keep saying " WE MISSIN PLAYERS.. "

Let's just ignore the big drive we had in the 2nd half that should've been a TD instead of a pick of CMCs hands. - That's part of Shanny's jinks, how many UNFORTUNATELY plays do YOU need to witness before you get convinced that Shanny not getting us another ring?

Our starting field position in the 2nd half was on our 12, 9, 30(which was that drive) and 20(with 2:20 left down 10) - for one thing, throw MORE to the flats.. Where you not watching how Seattle's D was getting to us quicker? - answer to that is to get away FROM crossing patterns which (if you did not know) takes a long while to develop especially that we do not have SPEED at the WR position.

What are you "adjusting"? - do you feel that nothing more we can do.

So you have nothing of real weight to bring up. Basically "throw more to the flats"...let me guess you saw one play where they were giving us a look clogging up the middle and decided to echo that take?



Clearly going to the flats was going to fix everything.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:
I'm getting really tired of you guys trying to gate keep whether other fans can enjoy a season.

Nobody is raising banners for regular season wins but people are allowed to enjoy watching their team win. Just take the joy you get when Kyle loses a game and imagine what others feel when we win. Don't you want that for them?

But seriously...you, DrEll, etc need to stop the ridiculous narrative that other fans aren't good enough or don't care enough if they celebrate wins and playoff seasons that don't end in a SB victory.

You're not the fan police. This is a 49ers message board. The majority of people are here because they love this team. They're allowed to enjoy the ride even if the end isn't what we all want.

We're also allowed to expect / demand a higher standard from the HC / GM / owner / players without getting mocked by other posters.

Sure, as long as you're being logical and consistent with your takes.

I don't think Shanahan is perfect. I have my issues with him. But I'm not going to claim Mike McCarthy is a better HC than him simply because McCarthy won a SB. I'm not going to claim Mike McDonald is better than him cuz he was able to beat Kyle's team with a healthy squad bringing his record against Kyle to 2-2. Ironically both the wins McDonald has 49ers were missing key players, including Nick Bosa.

I'm sure if you actually brought in real concerns/issues with Kyle to the conversation instead of using hypotheticals or hyperbole you wouldn't get the reaction that you get.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
AGREE!!

someone with a brain would have kept drafting OL after OL rather than RB after RB when it's actually our strongest position... I'm not sure GENIUS is a word that should be link to KS10.

Wahhhh my football team only won 12 games this yr with backups all over the place, what a horrible coaching job wahhh. My god listen to yourselves.

Raise a banner!!!

Quit acting like our team and coach are dogs**t! Quit conveniently leaving out nuance to push a f**king stupid narrative. Only one team can win a SB every yr….that doesn't mean 31 teams suck. I know that might be hard to grasp.

Stop acting like a 12-win season should guarantee you a place in the 49ers' Ring of Honor.

Exactly what I mean....NOBODY said this. If you can't make your point without extreme hyperbole or straight up nonsense then maybe your point isn't a good one.