49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

I'll check back in 2031 to see how we fared vs Rams and do a chip count. Right now it's 1-0 in favor of rams

Originally posted by DrEll:
I'm sure you have proof to back all this right ? Show us where LA had the deal in the bag, and no matter what the 49ers would have offered there is no way Detroit changes its mind…

Rams had a former #1 overall pick to offer. 9ers had an injured QB.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Yea and the way he lost those SBs is awful. 2016 and 2023 I lay directly at his feet. He could have closed both out with better play calling and he just didn't have it. Also didn't have a plan for OT while the chiefs did. I just haven't seen the genius I expect in the playoffs. There isn't one playoff win that I feel Kyle was a big reason for

I know the media is on his nuts, but the fans that actually watch him every week know where the holes in his coaching are and why he doesn't have a ring yet

Real coaches have their QBs have one of the worst playoff performance ever.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I'll check back in 2031 to see how we fared vs Rams and do a chip count. Right now it's 1-0 in favor of rams

Rams are really struggling to build a fanbase despite their success under McVay. Maybe you should go help them out

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I'll check back in 2031 to see how we fared vs Rams and do a chip count. Right now it's 1-0 in favor of rams

Rams are really struggling to build a fanbase despite their success under McVay. Maybe you should go help them out

I've been telling these "niner" fans the same thing lol. There's envy/respect of your rivals, and then there's this compulsive obsession with that team. That's just what we call a fan :)

Originally posted by Koldo:
K-fans' way of coping is so cute

this post shows youre coping just fine.

imagine not understanding the psychology behind posts like yours.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I'll check back in 2031 to see how we fared vs Rams and do a chip count. Right now it's 1-0 in favor of rams

And….2-0 for the Chiefs and 1-0 for the Patriots

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Koldo:
K-fans' way of coping is so cute

this post shows youre coping just fine.

imagine not understanding the psychology behind posts like yours.

On a site full of obnoxious posters, he takes the cake. Zero substance and nothing but little drive by, s**tty one liners.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
McVay realized he couldn't win anything with Jared Goff a #1 overall pick who wasn't able to elevate his playcalling beyond 3 points in the SB vs a much less impressive defense than the one the Chiefs put on the field in 2023.

He found a favorable situation with Stafford getting paid too much on a team that was about to go full rebuild mode and had an inside man as the GM of the Lions.

Don't recall who it was(could've been you) but people acted like Shanahan was on vacation and didn't care about the move...meanwhile McVay was literally in the same location on vacation as well. He simply had an offer the former Rams employee wanted more and took it.

If anything Kyle panicked because of the move the Rams made to get Stafford and tried to get Aaron Rodgers but Packers told him to F off. Guess that move wasn't aggressive enough for you even though it was aggressive enough that LaFleur, who was Kyle's friend basically gave him the cold shoulder that season.

And once again sine you seem to pick and choose what you read - Sean McVay won his SB after his DEFENSE held the other team from scoring with a 3 point lead.

Yeah it was reported that Kyle tried getting Stafford all the same, he was told by someone that they had until tomorrow to figure it out, then it happened right after he was told that.

It's business, Stafford's wife said she wanted them to go to LA the year prior to the move. Then you got the LA connection with Holmes and Goff. s**t wasn't gonna happen. Now they got Stafford and we got Brock.

I don't think it was panicking either, they were getting a QB that off season. It was regarded as a good draft there. Covid f**ked up the scouting process but I have no problem shooting your shot at the QB position. Lance still could have ended up as a good QB if given more time. He should have stayed in school end of the day.

We got Brock and overall he's a darn good QB. Time for him to make his mark

Kyle was told that night he needed to make a play for Stafford ASAP because LA was meeting with him. Kyle went to sleep. Woke up next morning to the news that Stafford had agreed to LA after hanging with McVay.

"... I remember Saturday I was so stressed out and finally we talked to someone, it was seven at night, and they're like, 'No, nothing's happening (with a trade) at the earliest until tomorrow, so you can finish your night.' So I'm like, alright, I'm done. I put my phone down, talk to Mandy. I'm like, alright, 'Let's go out to dinner, let's have some drinks.' Half an hour later, my buddy calls me and is like, 'I'm just telling ya, if you want Stafford, you need to get a hold of him right now.' I'm like, 'What do you mean? We just talked to people. I can sleep on this. We'll talk to them tomorrow.' 'I'm just telling you, you need to talk to him right now.' And then it was all over."

So let me get this straight...you read that, bolded it and still think that if the Lions were seriously considering the 49ers offer that they wouldn't have gone back to Kyle/Lynch with a counter?

49ers got blown off because they wanted the deal with the Rams. No team looking to make the BEST deal possible for them doesn't call back an interested party. You think the Rams were going to walk away from negotiations if the Lions called back the 49ers? After paying Goff all that money and only getting 3 points from him in the SB and then two seasons of showing Goff just isn't enough they were going to pass on Stafford?

Like you have to really try to ignore the obvious to make the conclusions that you do. But it doesn't seem to stop you. Forget the fact that McVay was on vacation in the exact same city at the time. Forget the fact that the very wording you posted says "then it was all over" aka no call back to the 49ers. Guess because Shanahan didn't call up the MOSAD to track down Stafford's exact location and get outside his house with a boombox and "I WANT YOU MATT" sign he didn't try to get him.

I'm sure you have proof to back all this right ? Show us where LA had the deal in the bag, and no matter what the 49ers would have offered there is no way Detroit changes its mind…

Proof? Of what?

Detroit told the 49ers/Kyle the deal wasn't going to be done that night no matter what.

Detroit makes deal with Rams that night without reaching back out to the 49ers to see if a better offer is coming.

You literally posted that "proof" for me.

I know you don't like to use logic but it's pretty clear in how things went down the Lions weren't interested in going back to the 49ers to get more from them.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
McVay realized he couldn't win anything with Jared Goff a #1 overall pick who wasn't able to elevate his playcalling beyond 3 points in the SB vs a much less impressive defense than the one the Chiefs put on the field in 2023.

He found a favorable situation with Stafford getting paid too much on a team that was about to go full rebuild mode and had an inside man as the GM of the Lions.

Don't recall who it was(could've been you) but people acted like Shanahan was on vacation and didn't care about the move...meanwhile McVay was literally in the same location on vacation as well. He simply had an offer the former Rams employee wanted more and took it.

If anything Kyle panicked because of the move the Rams made to get Stafford and tried to get Aaron Rodgers but Packers told him to F off. Guess that move wasn't aggressive enough for you even though it was aggressive enough that LaFleur, who was Kyle's friend basically gave him the cold shoulder that season.

And once again sine you seem to pick and choose what you read - Sean McVay won his SB after his DEFENSE held the other team from scoring with a 3 point lead.

Yeah it was reported that Kyle tried getting Stafford all the same, he was told by someone that they had until tomorrow to figure it out, then it happened right after he was told that.

It's business, Stafford's wife said she wanted them to go to LA the year prior to the move. Then you got the LA connection with Holmes and Goff. s**t wasn't gonna happen. Now they got Stafford and we got Brock.

I don't think it was panicking either, they were getting a QB that off season. It was regarded as a good draft there. Covid f**ked up the scouting process but I have no problem shooting your shot at the QB position. Lance still could have ended up as a good QB if given more time. He should have stayed in school end of the day.

We got Brock and overall he's a darn good QB. Time for him to make his mark

Kyle was told that night he needed to make a play for Stafford ASAP because LA was meeting with him. Kyle went to sleep. Woke up next morning to the news that Stafford had agreed to LA after hanging with McVay.

"... I remember Saturday I was so stressed out and finally we talked to someone, it was seven at night, and they're like, 'No, nothing's happening (with a trade) at the earliest until tomorrow, so you can finish your night.' So I'm like, alright, I'm done. I put my phone down, talk to Mandy. I'm like, alright, 'Let's go out to dinner, let's have some drinks.' Half an hour later, my buddy calls me and is like, 'I'm just telling ya, if you want Stafford, you need to get a hold of him right now.' I'm like, 'What do you mean? We just talked to people. I can sleep on this. We'll talk to them tomorrow.' 'I'm just telling you, you need to talk to him right now.' And then it was all over."

So let me get this straight...you read that, bolded it and still think that if the Lions were seriously considering the 49ers offer that they wouldn't have gone back to Kyle/Lynch with a counter?

49ers got blown off because they wanted the deal with the Rams. No team looking to make the BEST deal possible for them doesn't call back an interested party. You think the Rams were going to walk away from negotiations if the Lions called back the 49ers? After paying Goff all that money and only getting 3 points from him in the SB and then two seasons of showing Goff just isn't enough they were going to pass on Stafford?

Like you have to really try to ignore the obvious to make the conclusions that you do. But it doesn't seem to stop you. Forget the fact that McVay was on vacation in the exact same city at the time. Forget the fact that the very wording you posted says "then it was all over" aka no call back to the 49ers. Guess because Shanahan didn't call up the MOSAD to track down Stafford's exact location and get outside his house with a boombox and "I WANT YOU MATT" sign he didn't try to get him.

I'm sure you have proof to back all this right ? Show us where LA had the deal in the bag, and no matter what the 49ers would have offered there is no way Detroit changes its mind…

Proof? Of what?

Detroit told the 49ers/Kyle the deal wasn't going to be done that night no matter what.

Detroit makes deal with Rams that night without reaching back out to the 49ers to see if a better offer is coming.

You literally posted that "proof" for me.

I know you don't like to use logic but it's pretty clear in how things went down the Lions weren't interested in going back to the 49ers to get more from them.

' Half an hour later, my buddy calls me and is like, 'I'm just telling ya, if you want Stafford, you need to get a hold of him right now.' I'm like, 'What do you mean?

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
McVay realized he couldn't win anything with Jared Goff a #1 overall pick who wasn't able to elevate his playcalling beyond 3 points in the SB vs a much less impressive defense than the one the Chiefs put on the field in 2023.

He found a favorable situation with Stafford getting paid too much on a team that was about to go full rebuild mode and had an inside man as the GM of the Lions.

Don't recall who it was(could've been you) but people acted like Shanahan was on vacation and didn't care about the move...meanwhile McVay was literally in the same location on vacation as well. He simply had an offer the former Rams employee wanted more and took it.

If anything Kyle panicked because of the move the Rams made to get Stafford and tried to get Aaron Rodgers but Packers told him to F off. Guess that move wasn't aggressive enough for you even though it was aggressive enough that LaFleur, who was Kyle's friend basically gave him the cold shoulder that season.

And once again sine you seem to pick and choose what you read - Sean McVay won his SB after his DEFENSE held the other team from scoring with a 3 point lead.

Yeah it was reported that Kyle tried getting Stafford all the same, he was told by someone that they had until tomorrow to figure it out, then it happened right after he was told that.

It's business, Stafford's wife said she wanted them to go to LA the year prior to the move. Then you got the LA connection with Holmes and Goff. s**t wasn't gonna happen. Now they got Stafford and we got Brock.

I don't think it was panicking either, they were getting a QB that off season. It was regarded as a good draft there. Covid f**ked up the scouting process but I have no problem shooting your shot at the QB position. Lance still could have ended up as a good QB if given more time. He should have stayed in school end of the day.

We got Brock and overall he's a darn good QB. Time for him to make his mark

Kyle was told that night he needed to make a play for Stafford ASAP because LA was meeting with him. Kyle went to sleep. Woke up next morning to the news that Stafford had agreed to LA after hanging with McVay.

"... I remember Saturday I was so stressed out and finally we talked to someone, it was seven at night, and they're like, 'No, nothing's happening (with a trade) at the earliest until tomorrow, so you can finish your night.' So I'm like, alright, I'm done. I put my phone down, talk to Mandy. I'm like, alright, 'Let's go out to dinner, let's have some drinks.' Half an hour later, my buddy calls me and is like, 'I'm just telling ya, if you want Stafford, you need to get a hold of him right now.' I'm like, 'What do you mean? We just talked to people. I can sleep on this. We'll talk to them tomorrow.' 'I'm just telling you, you need to talk to him right now.' And then it was all over."

So let me get this straight...you read that, bolded it and still think that if the Lions were seriously considering the 49ers offer that they wouldn't have gone back to Kyle/Lynch with a counter?

49ers got blown off because they wanted the deal with the Rams. No team looking to make the BEST deal possible for them doesn't call back an interested party. You think the Rams were going to walk away from negotiations if the Lions called back the 49ers? After paying Goff all that money and only getting 3 points from him in the SB and then two seasons of showing Goff just isn't enough they were going to pass on Stafford?

Like you have to really try to ignore the obvious to make the conclusions that you do. But it doesn't seem to stop you. Forget the fact that McVay was on vacation in the exact same city at the time. Forget the fact that the very wording you posted says "then it was all over" aka no call back to the 49ers. Guess because Shanahan didn't call up the MOSAD to track down Stafford's exact location and get outside his house with a boombox and "I WANT YOU MATT" sign he didn't try to get him.

I'm sure you have proof to back all this right ? Show us where LA had the deal in the bag, and no matter what the 49ers would have offered there is no way Detroit changes its mind…

Proof? Of what?

Detroit told the 49ers/Kyle the deal wasn't going to be done that night no matter what.

Detroit makes deal with Rams that night without reaching back out to the 49ers to see if a better offer is coming.

You literally posted that "proof" for me.

I know you don't like to use logic but it's pretty clear in how things went down the Lions weren't interested in going back to the 49ers to get more from them.

' Half an hour later, my buddy calls me and is like, 'I'm just telling ya, if you want Stafford, you need to get a hold of him right now.' I'm like, 'What do you mean?

Do you think by cutting out the last part of that it somehow changes the fact that you basically posted the exact reason the Lions weren't going to trade with the 49ers?

id ask if you need it spelled out for you but it clearly won't make any difference.

Originally posted by genus49:
Do you think by cutting out the last part of that it somehow changes the fact that you basically posted the exact reason the Lions weren't going to trade with the 49ers?

id ask if you need it spelled out for you but it clearly won't make any difference.

Shanahan was told he had to be aggressive with Stafford. He went to bed instead. The rest is history. Your post is all speculation with nothing to back it up except friendships and connections.

DrL's so desperate he needs to bring up 5 year old s**t because his SDS makes him look pretty stupid during this season. gotta cry about something.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Shanahan was told he had to be aggressive with Stafford. He went to bed instead. The rest is history. Your post is all speculation with nothing to back it up except friendships and connections.

"'What do you mean? We just talked to people. I can sleep on this. We'll talk to them tomorrow.' 'I'm just telling you, you need to talk to him right now.' And then it was all over."

im going to assume you're being obtuse on purpose here.

You posted the discussion, not me. The discussion ends "And then it was all over"

Not "I didn't believe it and went to bed and when I woke up it was over"

YOU are projecting. Everything from that quote shows the Lions had no real desire to deal with the 49ers.

If you're looking for a real negotiation and trying to get the best return possible for your team and there isn't a specific presence then you reach back out to the other interested parties. 49ers and Kyle clearly were interested. The Lions didn't reach out after telling him it's not getting done tonight.

It doesn't get any clearer than that outside of the Lions coming out and saying "we weren't going to trade him to SF"

So make whether mental gymnastics you want but to anyone with a lick of rational thought can see the 49ers were jerked around and the Lions and Stafford took the deal they wanted.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Shanahan was told he had to be aggressive with Stafford. He went to bed instead. The rest is history. Your post is all speculation with nothing to back it up except friendships and connections.

"'What do you mean? We just talked to people. I can sleep on this. We'll talk to them tomorrow.' 'I'm just telling you, you need to talk to him right now.' And then it was all over."

im going to assume you're being obtuse on purpose here.

You posted the discussion, not me. The discussion ends "And then it was all over"

Not "I didn't believe it and went to bed and when I woke up it was over"

YOU are projecting. Everything from that quote shows the Lions had no real desire to deal with the 49ers.

If you're looking for a real negotiation and trying to get the best return possible for your team and there isn't a specific presence then you reach back out to the other interested parties. 49ers and Kyle clearly were interested. The Lions didn't reach out after telling him it's not getting done tonight.

It doesn't get any clearer than that outside of the Lions coming out and saying "we weren't going to trade him to SF"

So make whether mental gymnastics you want but to anyone with a lick of rational thought can see the 49ers were jerked around and the Lions and Stafford took the deal they wanted.

The last part is likely what happened, Stafford likely was given the choice as to where he wanted to go to, he chose LA over us, it is what it is, can't force someone to come here if they don't want too, it's like ppl saying we should have kept Greenlaw when we offered more money but he chose DEN because he wanted to be LB1 and not LB2 to Fred, simple as that.