49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Both QBs got their coach to the doorstep (we were there twice in 2023) but only Andy had the gimme play up his sleeve to bring it home. CJ Beathard could run this play

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Both QBs got their coach to the doorstep (we were there twice in 2023) but only Andy had the gimme play up his sleeve to bring it home. CJ Beathard could run this play

Would have never been there if he didn't have Mahomes scrambling around on 4th down. Would have never won the first one if Mahomes wasn't able to drop back 20 yards from the LOS and chuck it 50+ with pressure all up in his face on 3rd and 15.

What's funny is SF had/has a better RZ TD % than KC in 2023, 2024 and this yr.

where's all the amazing play calling this yr from Andy? They're about to miss the payoffs and need to more than ever

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Both QBs got their coach to the doorstep (we were there twice in 2023) but only Andy had the gimme play up his sleeve to bring it home. CJ Beathard could run this play

Would have never been there if he didn't have Mahomes scrambling around on 4th down. Would have never won the first one if Mahomes wasn't able to drop back 20 yards from the LOS and chuck it 50+ with pressure all up in his face on 3rd and 15.

What's funny is SF had/has a better RZ TD % than KC in 2023, 2024 and this yr.

where's all the amazing play calling this yr from Andy? They're about to miss the payoffs and need to more than ever

And we don't get to the doorstep without the plays our qb made either. And that Mahomes scramble on 4th was a called option by Andy, it wasn't like he just aborted Andy's play like Brock had to do multiple times against Det to get us to the sb in the first place

In the end Andys play calling was better, just the unfortunate truth

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
And we don't get to the doorstep without the plays our qb made either. And that Mahomes scramble on 4th was a called option by Andy, it wasn't like he just aborted Andy's play like Brock had to do multiple times against Det to get us to the sb in the first place

In the end Andys play calling was better, just the unfortunate truth

i never said our QB didn't make plays, in fact I've said PLAYERS need to be held with more accountability for the outcome of games vs a HC

It was a read option where Mahomes had to make the call derp…Mahomes is constantly ad-libbing plays.

if you actually think Mahomes runs Andy's offense more than Brock does, then I truly underestimated how bias you are here.

And what are all these plays that Brock "aborted" in the lions game? Our QB gets multiple play calls that they "can" and change based on PS reads…if the play breaks down and he has to scramble and extend a play, that's not "aborting" lol.

Again, where is Andy's elite play calling right now? They need it more than ever apparently. What is so magically different in their schemes for you to proclaim he's "way better"? 20 yrs worth of play calling for Andy and he didn't win it until he got a generational QB (that he had to be talked into getting) who basically plays backyard football.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
i never said our QB didn't make plays, in fact I've said PLAYERS need to be held with more accountability for the outcome of games vs a HC

It was a read option where Mahomes had to make the call derp…Mahomes is constantly ad-libbing plays.

if you actually think Mahomes runs Andy's offense more than Brock does, then I truly underestimated how bias you are here.

And what are all these plays that Brock "aborted" in the lions game? Our QB gets multiple play calls that they "can" and change based on PS reads…if the play breaks down and he has to scramble and extend a play, that's not "aborting" lol.

Again, where is Andy's elite play calling right now? They need it more than ever apparently. What is so magically different in their schemes for you to proclaim he's "way better"? 20 yrs worth of play calling for Andy and he didn't win it until he got a generational QB (that he had to be talked into getting) who basically plays backyard football.

You knock Reid for this, but Kyle gets a pass for giving up three 1st round picks to draft a high school QB, amirite?

Originally posted by Koldo:
You knock Reid for this, but Kyle gets a pass for giving up three 1st round picks to draft a high school QB, amirite?

I didn't say he was perfect. I wish they would have actually given him a chance to develop because most of his time here he was hurt. Brock made him expendable and it looks like they got their FQB regardless. God such a problem lol.

Andy wanted Paxton Lynch the yr prior, then needed to be talked into Mahomes.

And it's simply the truth Andy was a great HC for 20 yrs prior to Mahomes but it STILL took the "elite level play calling" AND QB like Pat to win it all.

And still…no one can objectively answer my question about Andy's play calling this yr and why his team is a dumpster fire. He's got KC fans calling his play calling predictable. He's got one of the least injured team in the league per APY on IR. Damn near same roster as last yr. Generational QB has played all yr etc etc.

He just lost a game on the 4th down call last week. He's been worse than Kyle in RZ TD % the past 3 yrs.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
And I hate to remind you guys, but he didn't need a Mahomes in the last SB-he just needed Andy's playbook. Maybe Mahomes doesn't get it done with Kyle calling his 5 step drop bullcrap on potential game winning plays

He also needed his all time great DC to limit the 9ers offense. Funny how you wanna give all the credit to Saleh for this year but everything Reid has accompaihed is all him.

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by 9moon:
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO (Andy and Shanny)

Andy knows he can't win with his system alone while Shanny believes that he can win with any players under his system.

... AND THAT'S THE WHOLE TRUTH !!!

And you know this......HOW?

So he's in fact saying that the players matter more than the HC.

Shocking Reid didn't win it all until Mahomes and his backyard football took over. So the golden ticket for a HC is to find a magical unicorn QB and let him play football. Signed Belichick/Reid.

It's getting so old with these guys. No nuance or critical thinking.

Andy Reid is a great dude and an excellent coach but until he LUCKED(since 9moon likes caps) into Mahomes he wasn't winning any SBs. So where were all these incredible plays that can't be stopped

All that brilliance and without Mahomes he won 1 playoff game out of 5.

They didn't luck into Mahomes. They traded up in the first to get him while they still had Alex Smith winning games for them. They identified the talent and knew what they had.
I love Kyle but he's done a horrible job picking QBs and didn't even recognize Purdy until he was basically forced to start him due to injury.

He does a great job scheming to help QBs but a horrible job recognizing talent

Feel free to look into it...

Andy Reid picked Paxon Lynch as his Alex Smith replacement and QB of the future. Denver traded up ahead of them before they could select him. They had to pivot and traded back to grab Chris Jones. They took Mahomes after one of their personnel guys got everyone to buy in the following season.

None of that happens if Denver doesn't trade ahead of them.

So yes...luck in that Denver kept them from making a major mistake cuz Andy Reid isn't doing squat with Paxton Lynch instead of Mahomes and no Chris Jones.

That's not even talking about the fact that teams clearly didn't see what he could be in the NFL otherwise he would've went #1 overall.

I give you guys credit for continuing to beat a dead horse and I'm here for it.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Both QBs got their coach to the doorstep (we were there twice in 2023) but only Andy had the gimme play up his sleeve to bring it home. CJ Beathard could run this play

You still going on about this BS? Where was this play at the end of regulation? Absolutely casual take thinking Andy has some undefendable plays saved when he needs them.

This isn't anything special. You catch a defense in a bad look with your playcall and you get this happening. Kyle does this all the time as well you just don't remember those plays because they're not SB game winners.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
And we don't get to the doorstep without the plays our qb made either. And that Mahomes scramble on 4th was a called option by Andy, it wasn't like he just aborted Andy's play like Brock had to do multiple times against Det to get us to the sb in the first place

In the end Andys play calling was better, just the unfortunate truth

Yes...cuz they were facing the same level of defensive playcalling and players.

KC defense was much stronger that year, especially in the playoffs and there's no question Spags >>>>> Wilks.

You want to talk about design and playcalling? Go look at our defensive looks on that OT drive but sure blame Shanahan.

Originally posted by Koldo:
You knock Reid for this, but Kyle gets a pass for giving up three 1st round picks to draft a high school QB, amirite?

Who gave Kyle a pass for this? If your arguments and takes are make belief or hypotheticals there isn't much to your take...

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Both QBs got their coach to the doorstep (we were there twice in 2023) but only Andy had the gimme play up his sleeve to bring it home. CJ Beathard could run this play

You still going on about this BS? Where was this play at the end of regulation? Absolutely casual take thinking Andy has some undefendable plays saved when he needs them.

This isn't anything special. You catch a defense in a bad look with your playcall and you get this happening. Kyle does this all the time as well you just don't remember those plays because they're not SB game winners.

Exactly. You just hit the nail on the head.

NO ONE remembers Super Bowl losers.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Both QBs got their coach to the doorstep (we were there twice in 2023) but only Andy had the gimme play up his sleeve to bring it home. CJ Beathard could run this play

You still going on about this BS? Where was this play at the end of regulation? Absolutely casual take thinking Andy has some undefendable plays saved when he needs them.

This isn't anything special. You catch a defense in a bad look with your playcall and you get this happening. Kyle does this all the time as well you just don't remember those plays because they're not SB game winners.

Exactly. You just hit the nail on the head.

NO ONE remembers Super Bowl losers.

I dunno you guys can't seem to stop talking about them...

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Both QBs got their coach to the doorstep (we were there twice in 2023) but only Andy had the gimme play up his sleeve to bring it home. CJ Beathard could run this play

You still going on about this BS? Where was this play at the end of regulation? Absolutely casual take thinking Andy has some undefendable plays saved when he needs them.

This isn't anything special. You catch a defense in a bad look with your playcall and you get this happening. Kyle does this all the time as well you just don't remember those plays because they're not SB game winners.

Exactly. You just hit the nail on the head.

NO ONE remembers Super Bowl losers.

I dunno you guys can't seem to stop talking about them...

Weird right? Discussing the team we support.