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Per @SportsInfo_SIS, here are the teams in the NFL most impacted by injuries this season (thru Week 13):
— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) December 3, 2025
1. #49ers, 206 games missed
2. Cardinals, 177 games missed
3. Bengals, 115 games missed
4. Commanders, 143 games missed
Team #1 is 9-4, while Teams #2-4 are 9-27.
Originally posted by replikante:Ambulance of the year.
this says a ton about the coaching staff and, specially, about KS
Per @SportsInfo_SIS, here are the teams in the NFL most impacted by injuries this season (thru Week 13):
— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) December 3, 2025
1. #49ers, 206 games missed
2. Cardinals, 177 games missed
3. Bengals, 115 games missed
4. Commanders, 143 games missed
Team #1 is 9-4, while Teams #2-4 are 9-27.
Coach of the year
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
They can think like that but it's a failure to properly analyze all the things happening in a game, or games, and understanding what winning requires. QBs and coaches can do their jobs at the highest possible levels and still not win and that's because there are many other factors involved.
Originally posted by Koldo:
Something you're not factoring in is Kyle's two Super Bowl losses.
Originally posted by paulk205:
Originally posted by replikante:Ambulance of the year.
this says a ton about the coaching staff and, specially, about KS
Per @SportsInfo_SIS, here are the teams in the NFL most impacted by injuries this season (thru Week 13):
— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) December 3, 2025
1. #49ers, 206 games missed
2. Cardinals, 177 games missed
3. Bengals, 115 games missed
4. Commanders, 143 games missed
Team #1 is 9-4, while Teams #2-4 are 9-27.
Coach of the year
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
They can think like that but it's a failure to properly analyze all the things happening in a game, or games, and understanding what winning requires. QBs and coaches can do their jobs at the highest possible levels and still not win and that's because there are many other factors involved.
Originally posted by Koldo:
Something you're not factoring in is Kyle's two Super Bowl losses.
Read the above quote. SmokeyJoe put it perfectly.
Inability to look at what happened in a single game and understand what went wrong and simply point the finger to the HC for the loss is casual fan stuff. It's fine if you want to go that route but then don't come in here and act like your opinion is something everyone should share.
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
It's literally been his die-on-the-hill logic for years and it makes zero sense.
It simply isn't worse to make it further in the playoffs and then lose than it is to not make the playoffs. It just isn't. That's Lions/Browns level of thinking to cope with never sniffing a Super Bowl.
And then when you say that he always counteracts with "oh so you're HAPPY with Super Bowl losses??? How many Lombardi's does Super Bowl appearances get us??" Except that's clearly not what he's arguing. That logic would be losing the Super Bowl is AS BAD as not making the playoffs instead of literally WORSE, which I still don't agree with but I can at least rationalize and understand (31 teams don't win the Super Bowl and 1 team does and that's it, the end. Exclusive high-standard thinking but I can at least see the argument).
But HIS logic is 1 team wins the Super Bowl, 30 teams don't make the Super Bowl, and then 1 team loses the Super Bowl, and the other 30 are allowed to spit on the Super Bowl loser. Like losing the Super Bowl counts as negative one Lombardi trophy or something. It's completely irrational and nonsensical. Should fanbases be relieved when their team misses the playoffs or loses earlier in the playoffs then? "Oh well at least we didn't LOSE the Super Bowl! We had a 4-13 season instead that's at least better than LOSING a Super Bowl! 😇😇😇"
It's just clear targeted and twisted logic. If Kyle had never coached in a Super Bowl, he would be complaining every day about how Kyle has never won an NFC Championship or coached in a Super Bowl, and that there are plenty of coaches like Zac Taylor who have at least gotten to one and is therefore superior to him. Suddenly Super Bowl appearances would have positive value to him instead of negative value. We all know it.
This is perfection.
No matter how much it sucks to lose in the SB, making the SB is 100% better than not. Once again, you can't win the SB if you're not IN the SB.
Every team and player who didn't make it to the SB never had a chance to win it. Anything can happen in that single game. We literally had one of our best defenders pop his achilles running onto the field...even if that had to happen if it happened late in the 4th quarter, we're likely celebrating a SB win.
Celebrating earlier playoff losses or no playoff trips is loser behavior 100% and it's hilarious that some of the guys doing it are the first ones to point to Shanahan being 0-2 in SBs cuz somehow if he lost in the NFCCG or even earlier it would've been better.
It's basic arithmetic yet people like DrEll still don't get it.
1. Super Bowl loss > losing before the Super Bowl — this is my personal opinion, and most reasonable people would agree. Yes obviously Super Bowl win gets a mile-long >>>>> in front of Super Bowl loss. Didn't say it didn't.
2. Super Bowl loss = losing before the Super Bowl — I don't agree with this, but I can at least rationalize it. You see 1 Super Bowl winner and 31 non-Super Bowl winners every year. I can respect it.
3. Losing before the Super Bowl >>>>>>> losing the Super Bowl — this is an absolute brain-rot level take. It's like trying to argue 5 + 5 < 6. Literally nobody actually thinks this.
Many people share opinion #1. Some have opinion #2.
Only people like DrEll who need to push a very specific narrative have opinion #3.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by paulk205:
Originally posted by replikante:Ambulance of the year.
this says a ton about the coaching staff and, specially, about KS
Per @SportsInfo_SIS, here are the teams in the NFL most impacted by injuries this season (thru Week 13):
— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) December 3, 2025
1. #49ers, 206 games missed
2. Cardinals, 177 games missed
3. Bengals, 115 games missed
4. Commanders, 143 games missed
Team #1 is 9-4, while Teams #2-4 are 9-27.
Coach of the year
The worst injuries are pure bad luck - Bosa, Warner and Mykel all have nothing to do with training.
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
It's literally been his die-on-the-hill logic for years and it makes zero sense.
It simply isn't worse to make it further in the playoffs and then lose than it is to not make the playoffs. It just isn't. That's Lions/Browns level of thinking to cope with never sniffing a Super Bowl.
And then when you say that he always counteracts with "oh so you're HAPPY with Super Bowl losses??? How many Lombardi's does Super Bowl appearances get us??" Except that's clearly not what he's arguing. That logic would be losing the Super Bowl is AS BAD as not making the playoffs instead of literally WORSE, which I still don't agree with but I can at least rationalize and understand (31 teams don't win the Super Bowl and 1 team does and that's it, the end. Exclusive high-standard thinking but I can at least see the argument).
But HIS logic is 1 team wins the Super Bowl, 30 teams don't make the Super Bowl, and then 1 team loses the Super Bowl, and the other 30 are allowed to spit on the Super Bowl loser. Like losing the Super Bowl counts as negative one Lombardi trophy or something. It's completely irrational and nonsensical. Should fanbases be relieved when their team misses the playoffs or loses earlier in the playoffs then? "Oh well at least we didn't LOSE the Super Bowl! We had a 4-13 season instead that's at least better than LOSING a Super Bowl! 😇😇😇"
It's just clear targeted and twisted logic. If Kyle had never coached in a Super Bowl, he would be complaining every day about how Kyle has never won an NFC Championship or coached in a Super Bowl, and that there are plenty of coaches like Zac Taylor who have at least gotten to one and is therefore superior to him. Suddenly Super Bowl appearances would have positive value to him instead of negative value. We all know it.
This is perfection.
No matter how much it sucks to lose in the SB, making the SB is 100% better than not. Once again, you can't win the SB if you're not IN the SB.
Every team and player who didn't make it to the SB never had a chance to win it. Anything can happen in that single game. We literally had one of our best defenders pop his achilles running onto the field...even if that had to happen if it happened late in the 4th quarter, we're likely celebrating a SB win.
Celebrating earlier playoff losses or no playoff trips is loser behavior 100% and it's hilarious that some of the guys doing it are the first ones to point to Shanahan being 0-2 in SBs cuz somehow if he lost in the NFCCG or even earlier it would've been better.
It's basic arithmetic yet people like DrEll still don't get it.
1. Super Bowl loss > losing before the Super Bowl — this is my personal opinion, and most reasonable people would agree. Yes obviously Super Bowl win gets a mile-long >>>>> in front of Super Bowl loss. Didn't say it didn't.
2. Super Bowl loss = losing before the Super Bowl — I don't agree with this, but I can at least rationalize it. You see 1 Super Bowl winner and 31 non-Super Bowl winners every year. I can respect it.
3. Losing before the Super Bowl >>>>>>> losing the Super Bowl — this is an absolute brain-rot level take. It's like trying to argue 5 + 5 < 6. Literally nobody actually thinks this.
Many people share opinion #1. Some have opinion #2.
Only people like DrEll who need to push a very specific narrative have opinion #3.
I could kinda understand #3 in 2012 when SF was 5-0 in the SB, with their being a shine on a perfect multi-game record, with no other team at that time having a perfect SB record beyond 1-0. But once we lost to the Ravens that ship sailed. Better to get there as many times as possible to have the better chance to win them.
I find it interesting that the other big SB franchises with 4+ SB wins - Steelers, Patriots, Cowboys, Packers, Giants, Chiefs - never had this hangup because they lost their first SB before we finally lost our first. Those fan bases are far more accepting of a season where they were able to get there than we are. Of course they are also ticked and frustrated when they lose a SB, but it doesn't seem to ever have the "better that we weren't even there" angle.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by paulk205:
Originally posted by replikante:Ambulance of the year.
this says a ton about the coaching staff and, specially, about KS
Per @SportsInfo_SIS, here are the teams in the NFL most impacted by injuries this season (thru Week 13):
— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) December 3, 2025
1. #49ers, 206 games missed
2. Cardinals, 177 games missed
3. Bengals, 115 games missed
4. Commanders, 143 games missed
Team #1 is 9-4, while Teams #2-4 are 9-27.
Coach of the year
The worst injuries are pure bad luck - Bosa, Warner and Mykel all have nothing to do with training.
That stat about games missed is a little skewed because the Niners have 4 players that have missed most of the year. Aiyuk and Bosa have missed nearly every game. Warner missed a lot. Purdy missed several. The number of players that missed time might be more significant. The Niners are probably high on tha tlist too.
Originally posted by paulk205:
Ambulance of the year.
Originally posted by genus49:
Read the above quote. SmokeyJoe put it perfectly.
Inability to look at what happened in a single game and understand what went wrong and simply point the finger to the HC for the loss is casual fan stuff. It's fine if you want to go that route but then don't come in here and act like your opinion is something everyone should share.
Originally posted by replikante:
this says a ton about the coaching staff and, specially, about KS
Per @SportsInfo_SIS, here are the teams in the NFL most impacted by injuries this season (thru Week 13):
— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) December 3, 2025
1. #49ers, 206 games missed
2. Cardinals, 177 games missed
3. Bengals, 115 games missed
4. Commanders, 143 games missed
Team #1 is 9-4, while Teams #2-4 are 9-27.
Coach of the year
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by genus49:
Read the above quote. SmokeyJoe put it perfectly.
Inability to look at what happened in a single game and understand what went wrong and simply point the finger to the HC for the loss is casual fan stuff. It's fine if you want to go that route but then don't come in here and act like your opinion is something everyone should share.
I am not faulting Kyle for either of the Super Bowl losses. I am looking into the officiating though as Bosa was raped both games with no laundry thrown on the field
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
It's literally been his die-on-the-hill logic for years and it makes zero sense.
It simply isn't worse to make it further in the playoffs and then lose than it is to not make the playoffs. It just isn't. That's Lions/Browns level of thinking to cope with never sniffing a Super Bowl.
And then when you say that he always counteracts with "oh so you're HAPPY with Super Bowl losses??? How many Lombardi's does Super Bowl appearances get us??" Except that's clearly not what he's arguing. That logic would be losing the Super Bowl is AS BAD as not making the playoffs instead of literally WORSE, which I still don't agree with but I can at least rationalize and understand (31 teams don't win the Super Bowl and 1 team does and that's it, the end. Exclusive high-standard thinking but I can at least see the argument).
But HIS logic is 1 team wins the Super Bowl, 30 teams don't make the Super Bowl, and then 1 team loses the Super Bowl, and the other 30 are allowed to spit on the Super Bowl loser. Like losing the Super Bowl counts as negative one Lombardi trophy or something. It's completely irrational and nonsensical. Should fanbases be relieved when their team misses the playoffs or loses earlier in the playoffs then? "Oh well at least we didn't LOSE the Super Bowl! We had a 4-13 season instead that's at least better than LOSING a Super Bowl! 😇😇😇"
It's just clear targeted and twisted logic. If Kyle had never coached in a Super Bowl, he would be complaining every day about how Kyle has never won an NFC Championship or coached in a Super Bowl, and that there are plenty of coaches like Zac Taylor who have at least gotten to one and is therefore superior to him. Suddenly Super Bowl appearances would have positive value to him instead of negative value. We all know it.
This is perfection.
No matter how much it sucks to lose in the SB, making the SB is 100% better than not. Once again, you can't win the SB if you're not IN the SB.
Every team and player who didn't make it to the SB never had a chance to win it. Anything can happen in that single game. We literally had one of our best defenders pop his achilles running onto the field...even if that had to happen if it happened late in the 4th quarter, we're likely celebrating a SB win.
Celebrating earlier playoff losses or no playoff trips is loser behavior 100% and it's hilarious that some of the guys doing it are the first ones to point to Shanahan being 0-2 in SBs cuz somehow if he lost in the NFCCG or even earlier it would've been better.
It's basic arithmetic yet people like DrEll still don't get it.
1. Super Bowl loss > losing before the Super Bowl — this is my personal opinion, and most reasonable people would agree. Yes obviously Super Bowl win gets a mile-long >>>>> in front of Super Bowl loss. Didn't say it didn't.
2. Super Bowl loss = losing before the Super Bowl — I don't agree with this, but I can at least rationalize it. You see 1 Super Bowl winner and 31 non-Super Bowl winners every year. I can respect it.
3. Losing before the Super Bowl >>>>>>> losing the Super Bowl — this is an absolute brain-rot level take. It's like trying to argue 5 + 5 < 6. Literally nobody actually thinks this.
Many people share opinion #1. Some have opinion #2.
Only people like DrEll who need to push a very specific narrative have opinion #3.
I could kinda understand #3 in 2012 when SF was 5-0 in the SB, with their being a shine on a perfect multi-game record, with no other team at that time having a perfect SB record beyond 1-0. But once we lost to the Ravens that ship sailed. Better to get there as many times as possible to have the better chance to win them.
I find it interesting that the other big SB franchises with 4+ SB wins - Steelers, Patriots, Cowboys, Packers, Giants, Chiefs - never had this hangup because they lost their first SB before we finally lost our first. Those fan bases are far more accepting of a season where they were able to get there than we are. Of course they are also ticked and frustrated when they lose a SB, but it doesn't seem to ever have the "better that we weren't even there" angle.
You can ask Eagles fans, too. When they lost the Super Bowl to the Chiefs a couple years ago, at least a few IRL told me "it is what it is. I learned
that you can be proud of the season your team has and their performance in the Super Bowl itself even if they don't win it."
It seems to be only this strange portion of our "fanbase" that has this bizarre clueless mindset of "wOuLd rAtHer gO 0-17 tHaN LOSE THE SUPER BOWLZ!!!!"
Originally posted by Silky:
People who cannot rationalize a SB win and SB appearance must be miserable human beings. I like to enjoy the ride and be proud at the end no matter what. It's not a loser mentality either. I know I could get sick or get hit by a bus tomorrow and die. What's the point of being a miserable f**k and not enjoy the SB run even if it ends in a loss? I will be (and have been) extremely disappointed when they lost the SB. I will not start calling for John, Kyle, Brock, etc head for losing. If things are binary 1's and 0's and you only get pleasure if they win and damn everything else if they lose, then have fun with that. More times in life than not, we lose. Not just with football. I've blocked several people like that on this forum. Like many have stated, there are franchises and hundreds of thousands of fans that dream to have the Niners success as of late.
