49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Hypothetical, Niners lose another SB with this squad with its injuries ...... would anyone be mad at all ?

0-4 in super bowls the last 15 years? lol YES. and that will be all everyone will remember

Yet many youngsters would sing Kyle's praises with another SB loss and crown him a first ballot HOFer with his 0-3 SB record…

So should we praise missing the playoffs instead of a deep playoff run w possibility of a SB loss ?

trying to understand what those people scared about Sb losses think ?

I hate losing SBs as anyone else , but I'm not cheering on a season cut short of a SB loss .

Just ask the Buffalo Bills. Plenty to celebrate in their storied history….I guess 🫤

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Hypothetical, Niners lose another SB with this squad with its injuries ...... would anyone be mad at all ?

0-4 in super bowls the last 15 years? lol YES. and that will be all everyone will remember

Yet many youngsters would sing Kyle's praises with another SB loss and crown him a first ballot HOFer with his 0-3 SB record…

So should we praise missing the playoffs instead of a deep playoff run w possibility of a SB loss ?

trying to understand what those people scared about Sb losses think ?

I hate losing SBs as anyone else , but I'm not cheering on a season cut short of a SB loss .

Just ask the Buffalo Bills. Plenty to celebrate in their storied history….I guess 🫤

So we cheer on a loss in the NFCCG ?

just need to know what I should want if I get scared of SB loss

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Hypothetical, Niners lose another SB with this squad with its injuries ...... would anyone be mad at all ?

0-4 in super bowls the last 15 years? lol YES. and that will be all everyone will remember

Yet many youngsters would sing Kyle's praises with another SB loss and crown him a first ballot HOFer with his 0-3 SB record…

So should we praise missing the playoffs instead of a deep playoff run w possibility of a SB loss ?

trying to understand what those people scared about Sb losses think ?

I hate losing SBs as anyone else , but I'm not cheering on a season cut short of a SB loss .

Just ask the Buffalo Bills. Plenty to celebrate in their storied history….I guess 🫤

So we cheer on a loss in the NFCCG ?

just need to know what I should want if I get scared of SB loss

I think some would only prefer a #1 pick or SB win. No in between.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Hypothetical, Niners lose another SB with this squad with its injuries ...... would anyone be mad at all ?

0-4 in super bowls the last 15 years? lol YES. and that will be all everyone will remember

Yet many youngsters would sing Kyle's praises with another SB loss and crown him a first ballot HOFer with his 0-3 SB record…

Let's not count our chickens before they hatch but I'd say considering we had a thread about whether the 49ers are just retooling or rebuilding to start this season that a coach getting his team while dealing with all the critical injuries we've faced this season is a pretty impressive accomplishment.

Once again you fail to grasp the concept of one game wiping away a whole season, even if that game is the SB.

Was Sean McVay a terrible coach in 2018? Was Belichick a terrible coach in 2017 or 2007?

Personally I still have a hard time seeing us win a playoff game with the guys we have missing on defense and no real X WR or a run game that isn't really great. However I do trust this coaching staff that they'll have us in the best position possible and I also know that anything short of a SB win, you'll be in here b***hing about Kyle. Even if they win you'll probably just give the credit to Saleh.

Originally posted by Koldo:
Who cares if we never win a SB again...as long as sports talking heads keep calling Kyle the awesomest HC ever

Quick...show me one person who said anything like that. You get all outraged when people say you're rooting for the team to fail and then come into threads posting straight up nonsense like this.

EVERYONE here wants us to win a SB. I think majority of the people are realistic that we don't have the bodies to get it done this year so when that happens you at least want as many individual accolades you can get. It doesn't mean people would rather see the individual awards over the SB win.

Ask anyone on this site who is actually a 49ers fan and not an opposing fan visiting if they'd rather see a SB win or players win a bunch of season awards and Kyle winning COTY. I would bet good money that if they're being serious with their response it would be 100% SB win.

So I ask again...why come in and post nonsense like above? Cuz to me it reads like you're simply trying to stir things up.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Hypothetical, Niners lose another SB with this squad with its injuries ...... would anyone be mad at all ?

0-4 in super bowls the last 15 years? lol YES. and that will be all everyone will remember

Yet many youngsters would sing Kyle's praises with another SB loss and crown him a first ballot HOFer with his 0-3 SB record…

Let's not count our chickens before they hatch but I'd say considering we had a thread about whether the 49ers are just retooling or rebuilding to start this season that a coach getting his team while dealing with all the critical injuries we've faced this season is a pretty impressive accomplishment.

Once again you fail to grasp the concept of one game wiping away a whole season, even if that game is the SB.

Was Sean McVay a terrible coach in 2018? Was Belichick a terrible coach in 2017 or 2007?

Personally I still have a hard time seeing us win a playoff game with the guys we have missing on defense and no real X WR or a run game that isn't really great. However I do trust this coaching staff that they'll have us in the best position possible and I also know that anything short of a SB win, you'll be in here b***hing about Kyle. Even if they win you'll probably just give the credit to Saleh.

If they get the #5 seed and play in Tampa, I think that'd be a W. If they remain #7 seed and play in LA, tough sledding, but I could see them beating any NFC team, other than Rams right now. Lot can change, however, between now and then.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
It's literally been his die-on-the-hill logic for years and it makes zero sense.

It simply isn't worse to make it further in the playoffs and then lose than it is to not make the playoffs. It just isn't. That's Lions/Browns level of thinking to cope with never sniffing a Super Bowl.

And then when you say that he always counteracts with "oh so you're HAPPY with Super Bowl losses??? How many Lombardi's does Super Bowl appearances get us??" Except that's clearly not what he's arguing. That logic would be losing the Super Bowl is AS BAD as not making the playoffs instead of literally WORSE, which I still don't agree with but I can at least rationalize and understand (31 teams don't win the Super Bowl and 1 team does and that's it, the end. Exclusive high-standard thinking but I can at least see the argument).

But HIS logic is 1 team wins the Super Bowl, 30 teams don't make the Super Bowl, and then 1 team loses the Super Bowl, and the other 30 are allowed to spit on the Super Bowl loser. Like losing the Super Bowl counts as negative one Lombardi trophy or something. It's completely irrational and nonsensical. Should fanbases be relieved when their team misses the playoffs or loses earlier in the playoffs then? "Oh well at least we didn't LOSE the Super Bowl! We had a 4-13 season instead that's at least better than LOSING a Super Bowl! 😇😇😇"

It's just clear targeted and twisted logic. If Kyle had never coached in a Super Bowl, he would be complaining every day about how Kyle has never won an NFC Championship or coached in a Super Bowl, and that there are plenty of coaches like Zac Taylor who have at least gotten to one and is therefore superior to him. Suddenly Super Bowl appearances would have positive value to him instead of negative value. We all know it.

This is perfection.

No matter how much it sucks to lose in the SB, making the SB is 100% better than not. Once again, you can't win the SB if you're not IN the SB.

Every team and player who didn't make it to the SB never had a chance to win it. Anything can happen in that single game. We literally had one of our best defenders pop his achilles running onto the field...even if that had to happen if it happened late in the 4th quarter, we're likely celebrating a SB win.

Celebrating earlier playoff losses or no playoff trips is loser behavior 100% and it's hilarious that some of the guys doing it are the first ones to point to Shanahan being 0-2 in SBs cuz somehow if he lost in the NFCCG or even earlier it would've been better.

Originally posted by Cosmo:
If they get the #5 seed and play in Tampa, I think that'd be a W. If they remain #7 seed and play in LA, tough sledding, but I could see them beating any NFC team, other than Rams right now. Lot can change, however, between now and then.

I think they'll be underdogs in any matchup, including Tampa Bay. Agree winning any game is possible… and that's in large part due to the quality of our coaching staff.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
It's literally been his die-on-the-hill logic for years and it makes zero sense.

It simply isn't worse to make it further in the playoffs and then lose than it is to not make the playoffs. It just isn't. That's Lions/Browns level of thinking to cope with never sniffing a Super Bowl.

And then when you say that he always counteracts with "oh so you're HAPPY with Super Bowl losses??? How many Lombardi's does Super Bowl appearances get us??" Except that's clearly not what he's arguing. That logic would be losing the Super Bowl is AS BAD as not making the playoffs instead of literally WORSE, which I still don't agree with but I can at least rationalize and understand (31 teams don't win the Super Bowl and 1 team does and that's it, the end. Exclusive high-standard thinking but I can at least see the argument).

But HIS logic is 1 team wins the Super Bowl, 30 teams don't make the Super Bowl, and then 1 team loses the Super Bowl, and the other 30 are allowed to spit on the Super Bowl loser. Like losing the Super Bowl counts as negative one Lombardi trophy or something. It's completely irrational and nonsensical. Should fanbases be relieved when their team misses the playoffs or loses earlier in the playoffs then? "Oh well at least we didn't LOSE the Super Bowl! We had a 4-13 season instead that's at least better than LOSING a Super Bowl! 😇😇😇"

It's just clear targeted and twisted logic. If Kyle had never coached in a Super Bowl, he would be complaining every day about how Kyle has never won an NFC Championship or coached in a Super Bowl, and that there are plenty of coaches like Zac Taylor who have at least gotten to one and is therefore superior to him. Suddenly Super Bowl appearances would have positive value to him instead of negative value. We all know it.

This is perfection.

No matter how much it sucks to lose in the SB, making the SB is 100% better than not. Once again, you can't win the SB if you're not IN the SB.

Every team and player who didn't make it to the SB never had a chance to win it. Anything can happen in that single game. We literally had one of our best defenders pop his achilles running onto the field...even if that had to happen if it happened late in the 4th quarter, we're likely celebrating a SB win.

Celebrating earlier playoff losses or no playoff trips is loser behavior 100% and it's hilarious that some of the guys doing it are the first ones to point to Shanahan being 0-2 in SBs cuz somehow if he lost in the NFCCG or even earlier it would've been better.

It's basic arithmetic yet people like DrEll still don't get it.

1. Super Bowl loss > losing before the Super Bowl — this is my personal opinion, and most reasonable people would agree. Yes obviously Super Bowl win gets a mile-long >>>>> in front of Super Bowl loss. Didn't say it didn't.

2. Super Bowl loss = losing before the Super Bowl — I don't agree with this, but I can at least rationalize it. You see 1 Super Bowl winner and 31 non-Super Bowl winners every year. I can respect it.

3. Losing before the Super Bowl >>>>>>> losing the Super Bowl — this is an absolute brain-rot level take. It's like trying to argue 5 + 5 < 6. Literally nobody actually thinks this.

Many people share opinion #1. Some have opinion #2.

Only people like DrEll who need to push a very specific narrative have opinion #3.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
It's basic arithmetic yet people like DrEll still don't get it.

1. Super Bowl loss > losing before the Super Bowl — this is my personal opinion, and most reasonable people would agree. Yes obviously Super Bowl win gets a mile-long >>>>> in front of Super Bowl loss. Didn't say it didn't.

2. Super Bowl loss = losing before the Super Bowl — I don't agree with this, but I can at least rationalize it. You see 1 Super Bowl winner and 31 non-Super Bowl winners every year. I can respect it.

3. Losing before the Super Bowl >>>>>>> losing the Super Bowl — this is an absolute brain-rot level take. It's like trying to argue 5 + 5 < 6. Literally nobody actually thinks this.

Many people share opinion #1. Some have opinion #2.

Only people like DrEll who need to push a very specific narrative have opinion #3.

They just struggle to analyze what's happening in the game and boil everything down to whether the ultimate goal was achieved. Casual fans do it with QBs and coaches.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
It's basic arithmetic yet people like DrEll still don't get it.

1. Super Bowl loss > losing before the Super Bowl — this is my personal opinion, and most reasonable people would agree. Yes obviously Super Bowl win gets a mile-long >>>>> in front of Super Bowl loss. Didn't say it didn't.

2. Super Bowl loss = losing before the Super Bowl — I don't agree with this, but I can at least rationalize it. You see 1 Super Bowl winner and 31 non-Super Bowl winners every year. I can respect it.

3. Losing before the Super Bowl >>>>>>> losing the Super Bowl — this is an absolute brain-rot level take. It's like trying to argue 5 + 5 < 6. Literally nobody actually thinks this.

Many people share opinion #1. Some have opinion #2.

Only people like DrEll who need to push a very specific narrative have opinion #3.

They just struggle to analyze what's happening in the game and boil everything down to whether the ultimate goal was achieved. Casual fans do it with QBs and coaches.

It's not even that. Many people have opinion #2 and also have that mindset you mentioned. It's not one that I agree with, but I can at least understand and respect it. You see first place and then not-first place for everyone else. Some people just think like that.

DrEll's opinion is opinion #3 which is a billion times more nonsensical. Second place is most definitely not WORSE than last place lmao. It's a lateral move at the absolute most.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
It's not even that. Many people have opinion #2 and also have that mindset you mentioned. It's not one that I agree with, but I can at least understand and respect it. You see first place and then not-first place for everyone else. Some people just think like that.

DrEll's opinion is opinion #3 which is a billion times more nonsensical. Second place is most definitely not WORSE than last place lmao. It's a lateral move at the absolute most.

They can think like that but it's a failure to properly analyze all the things happening in a game, or games, and understanding what winning requires. QBs and coaches can do their jobs at the highest possible levels and still not win and that's because there are many other factors involved.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
It's basic arithmetic yet people like DrEll still don't get it.

1. Super Bowl loss > losing before the Super Bowl — this is my personal opinion, and most reasonable people would agree. Yes obviously Super Bowl win gets a mile-long >>>>> in front of Super Bowl loss. Didn't say it didn't.

2. Super Bowl loss = losing before the Super Bowl — I don't agree with this, but I can at least rationalize it. You see 1 Super Bowl winner and 31 non-Super Bowl winners every year. I can respect it.

3. Losing before the Super Bowl >>>>>>> losing the Super Bowl — this is an absolute brain-rot level take. It's like trying to argue 5 + 5 < 6. Literally nobody actually thinks this.

Many people share opinion #1. Some have opinion #2.

Only people like DrEll who need to push a very specific narrative have opinion #3.

They just struggle to analyze what's happening in the game and boil everything down to whether the ultimate goal was achieved. Casual fans do it with QBs and coaches.

It's not even that. Many people have opinion #2 and also have that mindset you mentioned. It's not one that I agree with, but I can at least understand and respect it. You see first place and then not-first place for everyone else. Some people just think like that.

DrEll's opinion is opinion #3 which is a billion times more nonsensical. Second place is most definitely not WORSE than last place lmao. It's a lateral move at the absolute most.

Something you're not factoring in is Kyle's two Super Bowl losses.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
It's basic arithmetic yet people like DrEll still don't get it.

1. Super Bowl loss > losing before the Super Bowl — this is my personal opinion, and most reasonable people would agree. Yes obviously Super Bowl win gets a mile-long >>>>> in front of Super Bowl loss. Didn't say it didn't.

2. Super Bowl loss = losing before the Super Bowl — I don't agree with this, but I can at least rationalize it. You see 1 Super Bowl winner and 31 non-Super Bowl winners every year. I can respect it.

3. Losing before the Super Bowl >>>>>>> losing the Super Bowl — this is an absolute brain-rot level take. It's like trying to argue 5 + 5 < 6. Literally nobody actually thinks this.

Many people share opinion #1. Some have opinion #2.

Only people like DrEll who need to push a very specific narrative have opinion #3.

They just struggle to analyze what's happening in the game and boil everything down to whether the ultimate goal was achieved. Casual fans do it with QBs and coaches.

It's not even that. Many people have opinion #2 and also have that mindset you mentioned. It's not one that I agree with, but I can at least understand and respect it. You see first place and then not-first place for everyone else. Some people just think like that.

DrEll's opinion is opinion #3 which is a billion times more nonsensical. Second place is most definitely not WORSE than last place lmao. It's a lateral move at the absolute most.

Something you're not factoring in is Kyle's two Super Bowl losses.

Talk about missing the point. Literally sprinted the exact opposite direction of it. Well done!

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
It's basic arithmetic yet people like DrEll still don't get it.

1. Super Bowl loss > losing before the Super Bowl — this is my personal opinion, and most reasonable people would agree. Yes obviously Super Bowl win gets a mile-long >>>>> in front of Super Bowl loss. Didn't say it didn't.

2. Super Bowl loss = losing before the Super Bowl — I don't agree with this, but I can at least rationalize it. You see 1 Super Bowl winner and 31 non-Super Bowl winners every year. I can respect it.

3. Losing before the Super Bowl >>>>>>> losing the Super Bowl — this is an absolute brain-rot level take. It's like trying to argue 5 + 5 < 6. Literally nobody actually thinks this.

Many people share opinion #1. Some have opinion #2.

Only people like DrEll who need to push a very specific narrative have opinion #3.

They just struggle to analyze what's happening in the game and boil everything down to whether the ultimate goal was achieved. Casual fans do it with QBs and coaches.

It's not even that. Many people have opinion #2 and also have that mindset you mentioned. It's not one that I agree with, but I can at least understand and respect it. You see first place and then not-first place for everyone else. Some people just think like that.

DrEll's opinion is opinion #3 which is a billion times more nonsensical. Second place is most definitely not WORSE than last place lmao. It's a lateral move at the absolute most.

Something you're not factoring in is Kyle's two Super Bowl losses.

Talk about missing the point. Literally sprinted the exact opposite direction of it. Well done!

Just give him the attention he wants.