49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
The priority is to win a superbowl. You can't win a superbowl if you don't draft well. The niners do not draft well. They failed to buuld a quality roster.

Just look at the rams and seahawks drafts. It's embarrassing in comparison.

Ok lets look. Let's start with the Rams. I count 4 pro bowlers since 2017. Am i missing anyone? You said in your one post Niners had 9?

Gerald Everett
Cooper Kupp
John Johnson
Josh Reynolds
Samson Ebukam
Tanzel Smart
Sam Rogers
Ejuan Price
Joseph Noteboom
Brian Allen
John Franklin-Myers
Micah Kiser
Ogbonnia Okoronkwo
John Kelly
Sebastian Joseph-Day
Trevon Young
Travin Howard
Justin Lawler
Taylor Rapp
Darrell Henderson
David Long Jr.
Bobby Evans
Greg Gaines
David Edwards
Nick Scott
Dakota Allen
Cam Akers
Van Jefferson
Terrell Lewis
Terrell Burgess
Brycen Hopkins
Jordan Fuller
Clay Johnston
Sam Sloman
Tremayne Anchrum
Tutu Atwell
Ernest Jones
Bobby Brown III
Robert Rochell
Jacob Harris
Earnest Brown
Jake Funk
Ben Skowronek
Chris Garrett
Logan Bruss
Decobie Durant
Kyren Williams
Quentin Lake
Derion Kendrick
Daniel Hardy
Russ Yeast
A.J. Arcuri
Steve Avila
Byron Young
Kobie Turner
Stetson Bennett
Nick Hampton
Warren McClendon Jr.
Davis Allen
Puka Nacua
Tre'vius Hodges-Tomlinson
Ochaun Mathis
Zach Evans
Ethan Evans
Jason Taylor II
Desjuan Johnson
Jared Verse
Braden Fiske
Blake Corum
Karen Kinchens
Brennan Jackson
Tyler Davis
Joshua Karty
Jordan Whittington
Beaux Limmer
K.T. Leveston
Terrance Ferguson
Josaiah Stewart
Jarquez Hunter
Ty Hamilton
Chris Paul Jr.
Konata Mumpfield

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He's never looked at either teams drafts Mike.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Next 4 games are vs AZ/Browns/Titans and Panthers. Get a f**king grip Kyle Hater Club.

ya'll are gonna be so butt hurt when we win 10 games with half a roster.

Ya'll are so unserious and lazy with the whiny takes….trying so incredibly hard to pretend that Kyle is a bad coach or that s**t wasn't f**king horrible before he got here. You should do us all a favor and go root for another team.

The discussion here is not about Kyle being a good / bad HC, is about whether he has what it takes to win a Super Bowl.

My answer: no

The only critical flaw that I struggle to accept with Kyle is his obvious bias's in his draft philosophy, specifically, the utter disregard for building the Oline.

People can point to Trent Williams, but that's like getting a Ferrari at half price.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
The priority is to win a superbowl. You can't win a superbowl if you don't draft well. The niners do not draft well. They failed to buuld a quality roster.

Just look at the rams and seahawks drafts. It's embarrassing in comparison.

And here is Seattle since 2017. I count 4 here too.

Malik McDowell
Ethan Pocic
Shaquill Griffin
Delano Hill
Nazair Jones
Amara Darboh
Tedric Thompson
Mike Tyson
Justin Senior
David Moore
Chris Carson
Rashaad Penny
Rasheem Green
Will Dissly
Shaquem Griffin
Tre Flowers
Michael Dickson
Jamarco Jones
Jacob Martin
Alex McGough
L.J. Collier
Marquise Blair
D.K. Metcalf
Cody Barton
Dru Samia
Gary Jennings Jr.
Phil Haynes
Ugochukwu Amadi
Ben kurr-Kirven
Travis Homer
Demarcus Christmas
John Ursua
Jordyn Brooks
Darrell Taylor
Damien Lewis
Colby Parkinson
DeeJay Dallas
Alton Robinson
Freddie Swain
Stephen Sullivan
D'Wyane Eskridge
Tre Brown
Stone Forsythe
Charles Cross
Boye Mafe
Kenneth Walker III
Abraham Lucas
Coby Bryant
Tariq Woolen
Tyreke Smith
Bo Melton
Dareke Young
Devon Witherspoon
Jaxon Smith-Njigba
Derick Hall
Zach Charbonnet
Anthony Bradford
Cameron Young
Mike Morris
Olusegun Oluwatimi
Jerrick Reed II
Kenny McIntosh
Byron Murphy II
Christian Haynes
Tyrice Knight
A.J. Barner
Nehemiah Pritchett
Sataoa Laumea
D.J. James
Michael Jerrell
Grey Zabel
Nick Emmanwori
Elijah Arroyo
Jalen Milroe
Rylie Mills
Tory Horton
Robbie Ouzts
Bryce Cabeldue
Damien Martinez
Mason Richman
Ricky White III

I see the agitator's are predictably out in full force.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
He's never looked at either teams drafts Mike.

Yeah clearly he hasn't. I don't even know why i respond to him.

Originally posted by Butter:
The only critical flaw that I struggle to accept with Kyle is his obvious bias's in his draft philosophy, specifically, the utter disregard for building the Oline.

People can point to Trent Williams, but that's like getting a Ferrari at half price.

I agree but i think they would have drafted one early last year but the draft board didn't fall that way. But your point still stands.

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
He's never looked at either teams drafts Mike.

Yeah clearly he hasn't. I don't even know why i respond to him.

Ya they are clueless. Just a bunch of hot take bots

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Koldo:
The discussion here is not about Kyle being a good / bad HC, is about whether he has what it takes to win a Super Bowl.

My answer: no

The follow up discussion is the guy you'd fire him for gonna have what it takes to even get to a SuperBowl?

My answer: unlikely

I keep saying the same thing, having the foundation of your distain for a HC be over ONE game is unserious. We've gone through those games over and over and can point to a f**k ton of things that have absolutely nothing to do with the HC.

and I call b******t to all the members of the Kyle hater club magically changing their tune with Kyle if ONE game had a different outcome.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Koldo:
The discussion here is not about Kyle being a good / bad HC, is about whether he has what it takes to win a Super Bowl.

My answer: no

The follow up discussion is the guy you'd fire him for gonna have what it takes to even get to a SuperBowl?

My answer: unlikely

I keep saying the same thing, having the foundation of your distain for a HC be over ONE game is unserious. We've gone through those games over and over and can point to a f**k ton of things that have absolutely nothing to do with the HC.

and I call b******t to all the members of the Kyle hater club magically changing their tune with Kyle if ONE game had a different outcome.

All you can ask for is a coach that can get you there. At some point the players you pay millions too have to execute. I don't blame the coaches for missed field goals, whiffing assignments, overthrown balls, etc. If those happen regularly and you never reach the playoffs then yes blame the coach.

If Kyle has a healthy team he's one of the best in the league.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I keep saying the same thing, having the foundation of your distain for a HC be over ONE game is unserious. We've gone through those games over and over and can point to a f**k ton of things that have absolutely nothing to do with the HC.

and I call b******t to all the members of the Kyle hater club magically changing their tune with Kyle if ONE game had a different outcome.

All the fun comparisons to Marv Levy and all but has anyone looked at the Bills post Levy? Wade Phillips then 2 decades of futility. That's far more likely then finding the next Howie Roseman and having him draft his way to SBs in spite of his head coaches.

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Koldo:

The discussion here is not about Kyle being a good / bad HC, is about whether he has what it takes to win a Super Bowl.

My answer: no

The follow up discussion is the guy you'd fire him for gonna have what it takes to even get to a SuperBowl?

My answer: unlikely

I keep saying the same thing, having the foundation of your distain for a HC be over ONE game is unserious. We've gone through those games over and over and can point to a f**k ton of things that have absolutely nothing to do with the HC.

and I call b******t to all the members of the Kyle hater club magically changing their tune with Kyle if ONE game had a different outcome.

All you can ask for is a coach that can get you there. At some point the players you pay millions too have to execute. I don't blame the coaches for missed field goals, whiffing assignments, overthrown balls, etc. If those happen regularly and you never reach the playoffs then yes blame the coach.

If Kyle has a healthy team he's one of the best in the league.

You can get there with Doug Pederson and Nick Soriano as long as you have the horses. He's a great game planner and play caller but he's bad at everything else, and the lack of attention to details outside of his playcalls always gets him in the end

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You can get there with Doug Pederson and Nick Soriano as long as you have the horses. He's a great game planner and play caller but he's bad at everything else, and the lack of attention to details outside of his playcalls always gets him in the end

Give some examples please cuz this is not what people who actually are coached/have been coached by him say at all. Like actually the opposite of your claims.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

You can get there with Doug Pederson and Nick Soriano as long as you have the horses. He's a great game planner and play caller but he's bad at everything else, and the lack of attention to details outside of his playcalls always gets him in the end

Give some examples please cuz this is not what people who actually are coached/have been coached by him say at all. Like actually the opposite of your claims.

It's clear just watching most games that he doesn't have strategy outside of the play calls. Just look at how often he messes up with clock management. They talk about how detailed he is with his playcalls, and I'm sure he is, but he isn't detailed in the overall strategy of the game

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You can get there with Doug Pederson and Nick Soriano as long as you have the horses. He's a great game planner and play caller but he's bad at everything else, and the lack of attention to details outside of his playcalls always gets him in the end

I know SF has just had a horrible roster since he got here…zero pro-bowls anywhere. No big fat contracts handed out to good players