Crazy because even last year, Shanahan was coaching his butt off, too. The difference this year is a defense that doesn't turn into a turnstile in the 4th qtr and a kicker making kicks.
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- Sanfran_chrisco
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- genus49
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Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by eric_anthony:
As much as the Walsh era? No way let's stop here. We can praise Shanahan for all the big wins and getting this team close to the finish line. But at the end of his tenure here if there's still no rings then no we shouldn't relish this era as much as Walsh or even the Seifert era. Those coaches got it done when they were in it. Hoisting the Lombardi is the ultimate accomplishment not getting close over and over again.
Walsh set a standard that is incredibly tough to match or even come close to but reality is he also had some benefits that helped him out that Shanahan doesn't share just cuz of the state of the NFL now.
Benefits Bill had:
No salary cap. No worries about keeping talent around your franchise QB. Hell, no worries about keeping two HOF QBs on the roster at the same time. Have to wonder where Shanahan would be right now if we could keep all our top players and pay them whatever without the cap being an issue.
No strict rules about offseason workouts and practices. Bill was a great teacher as a coach. His scheme and his ability to explain the game to the players was key in us being such a great team. It also probably helped guys avoid injuries. Shanahan doesn't have the same ability. Developing players is that much tougher as a result because coaches just can't get to their guys as much as they would prefer.
Bob McKittrick - you can put this on Shanahan but only a few of those types of OL coaches out there. Felt like Bob could turn chicken salad out of chicken sh*t on the regular.
Heck even the defensive rules back then made it easier for an offensive minded HC. He could scheme up things on offense and take advantage of the other teams defenses but our guys could also lay the hammer on people and get physical with them which was a big advantage vs teams with lesser offensive playcallers.
I also bring up the fact that had Shanahan got to play with the rules that Bill got, he's at least 1-1 in SBs right now cuz we win that last SB in OT.
But all we can hope for is that when Shanahan leaves the 49ers(hopefully by his choice) that he's got several SB rings to show for his time here. And IF that happens he would certainly belong in considerations along with Walsh but obviously he's not there right now.
Are you seriously implying that winning Super Bowls was "easier" back then?!
100%. You serious or just trolling lol?
Go look at the 70s - 80s - 90s they were dominated by the same handful of teams.
Once again, not taking anything away from Walsh. But if Jed was one of the richest people in the league and had no salary cap restrictions (like Eddie had) no one would be b***hing about how little we invest in our OL for example. Now it's a give or take. You can't have all pros at all your positions, in the 80s we did.
As opposed to now where the same handful of teams dominate the NFL?
Hey, I'm not saying it was harder to win back then, no era is easier or harder. Organizations just have to deal with a different set of circumstances.
The game now is incredibly QB driven but you still have parity all over because of the salary cap.
You can't argue against a single thing I noted as being an advantage for coaches, especially one as brilliant on offense like Walsh.
Think about the 2023 season and how much better the team could've been if we were able to keep guys like
Buckner, McGlinchey, DJ Jones, Omenihu, Key, Al-Shair, etc. Even key OL depth pieces like Tomlinson and Brunskill.
Buckner alone staying on the DL with the other guys would've likely been the difference enough even in other seasons.
Walsh didn't have concerns like that. If a guy was a great player in his prime, he wasn't leaving. Sure Bill was a much better talent evaluator than Kyle but another benefit he had when it came down to talent evaluation was because the WCO was so new he was able to find scheme fits for a lot longer. Shanahan has to share with a lot more teams.
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Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
sit down haters from 2024
Crazy because even last year, Shanahan was coaching his butt off, too. The difference this year is a defense that doesn't turn into a turnstile in the 4th qtr and a kicker making kicks.
— JonnydelsFA (@jonnydels) October 21, 2025
Yet, all last year, we heard about how Kyle had lost his edge, Kyle needed a reset, Kyle… https://t.co/J06IOJmOZV
"Crazy because even last year, Shanahan was coaching his butt off, too. The difference this year is a defense that doesn't turn into a turnstile in the 4th qtr and a kicker making kicks."
F***ING FACTS!!
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Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
sit down haters from 2024
Crazy because even last year, Shanahan was coaching his butt off, too. The difference this year is a defense that doesn't turn into a turnstile in the 4th qtr and a kicker making kicks.
— JonnydelsFA (@jonnydels) October 21, 2025
Yet, all last year, we heard about how Kyle had lost his edge, Kyle needed a reset, Kyle… https://t.co/J06IOJmOZV
"Crazy because even last year, Shanahan was coaching his butt off, too. The difference this year is a defense that doesn't turn into a turnstile in the 4th qtr and a kicker making kicks."
F***ING FACTS!!
- Fanaticofnfl
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he's truly one of the best, the heart and soul of this team. If I could wear one player's jersey for the rest of my life, it would certainly be Jake Brendel! I really miss that guy already! But we will have to continue to do our best… without Jake Brendel. But I don't know. It's all we can do!"
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Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
sit down haters from 2024
Crazy because even last year, Shanahan was coaching his butt off, too. The difference this year is a defense that doesn't turn into a turnstile in the 4th qtr and a kicker making kicks.
— JonnydelsFA (@jonnydels) October 21, 2025
Yet, all last year, we heard about how Kyle had lost his edge, Kyle needed a reset, Kyle… https://t.co/J06IOJmOZV
"Crazy because even last year, Shanahan was coaching his butt off, too. The difference this year is a defense that doesn't turn into a turnstile in the 4th qtr and a kicker making kicks."
F***ING FACTS!!
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Hate to be that guy but the offense was also one of the worst in the league with an average of 4.4 points in the 4th. Both sides of the ball were historically terrible with a record -75 in the +/- in the 4th.
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Originally posted by 4putt9r:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
sit down haters from 2024
Crazy because even last year, Shanahan was coaching his butt off, too. The difference this year is a defense that doesn't turn into a turnstile in the 4th qtr and a kicker making kicks.
— JonnydelsFA (@jonnydels) October 21, 2025
Yet, all last year, we heard about how Kyle had lost his edge, Kyle needed a reset, Kyle… https://t.co/J06IOJmOZV
"Crazy because even last year, Shanahan was coaching his butt off, too. The difference this year is a defense that doesn't turn into a turnstile in the 4th qtr and a kicker making kicks."
F***ING FACTS!!
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Hate to be that guy but the offense was also one of the worst in the league with an average of 4.4 points in the 4th. Both sides of the ball were historically terrible with a record -75 in the +/- in the 4th.
The offense 13th in the NFL in scoring and 4th in yards gained on offense last year despite some huge injuries on offense.
What do you think is more likely the issue in the 4th quarter...defense not being able to get off the field and in turn minimizing the opportunities of scoring on offense or that the offense was simply as bad as the defense?
- 4putt9r
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 4putt9r:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
sit down haters from 2024
Crazy because even last year, Shanahan was coaching his butt off, too. The difference this year is a defense that doesn't turn into a turnstile in the 4th qtr and a kicker making kicks.
— JonnydelsFA (@jonnydels) October 21, 2025
Yet, all last year, we heard about how Kyle had lost his edge, Kyle needed a reset, Kyle… https://t.co/J06IOJmOZV
"Crazy because even last year, Shanahan was coaching his butt off, too. The difference this year is a defense that doesn't turn into a turnstile in the 4th qtr and a kicker making kicks."
F***ING FACTS!!
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Hate to be that guy but the offense was also one of the worst in the league with an average of 4.4 points in the 4th. Both sides of the ball were historically terrible with a record -75 in the +/- in the 4th.
The offense 13th in the NFL in scoring and 4th in yards gained on offense last year despite some huge injuries on offense.
What do you think is more likely the issue in the 4th quarter...defense not being able to get off the field and in turn minimizing the opportunities of scoring on offense or that the offense was simply as bad as the defense?
That's all irrelevant when you are getting beat in all 3 phases of the ball when it mattered the most imo. The reason why we are 5-2 this year(which is a credit to Shanny this year) is that we actually finished games unlike last year where we gave multiple games away. On offense, defense and special teams.
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I'll take a HC/GM combo like that any day.
- Kolohe
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Originally posted by 4putt9r:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 4putt9r:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
sit down haters from 2024
Crazy because even last year, Shanahan was coaching his butt off, too. The difference this year is a defense that doesn't turn into a turnstile in the 4th qtr and a kicker making kicks.
— JonnydelsFA (@jonnydels) October 21, 2025
Yet, all last year, we heard about how Kyle had lost his edge, Kyle needed a reset, Kyle… https://t.co/J06IOJmOZV
"Crazy because even last year, Shanahan was coaching his butt off, too. The difference this year is a defense that doesn't turn into a turnstile in the 4th qtr and a kicker making kicks."
F***ING FACTS!!
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Hate to be that guy but the offense was also one of the worst in the league with an average of 4.4 points in the 4th. Both sides of the ball were historically terrible with a record -75 in the +/- in the 4th.
The offense 13th in the NFL in scoring and 4th in yards gained on offense last year despite some huge injuries on offense.
What do you think is more likely the issue in the 4th quarter...defense not being able to get off the field and in turn minimizing the opportunities of scoring on offense or that the offense was simply as bad as the defense?
That's all irrelevant when you are getting beat in all 3 phases of the ball when it mattered the most imo. The reason why we are 5-2 this year(which is a credit to Shanny this year) is that we actually finished games unlike last year where we gave multiple games away. On offense, defense and special teams.
No it's very relevant when the other two phases are f**king up. And on top of that he had injuries everywhere. The difference this season is that we have a better back up at QB, CMC is healthy, Robert Saleh and not Surfer dude at DC and last but not least Eddy Dineiro.
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
No it's very relevant when the other two faces are f**king up. And on top of that he had injuries everywhere. The difference this season is that we have a better back up at QB, CMC is healthy, Robert Saleh and not Surfer dude at DC and last but not least Eddy Dineiro.
This..could you imagine Sorensen this season? Oof
- Hysterikal
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Kyle is one of the best coaches in the league but he's tied to his system qb's and he's always going to be trying to beat guys like Jackson, Mahomes and Allen with Mac Jones. Good luck.
He drafted Lance….
- pillageDatazz
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Originally posted by 4putt9r:
Hate to be that guy but the offense was also one of the worst in the league with an average of 4.4 points in the 4th. Both sides of the ball were historically terrible with a record -75 in the +/- in the 4th.
You ARE that guy, my dude! You Are That Guy!!
Now, what are your thoughts on tomorrows pass rush?
The interior will continue wreaking havoc and Saleh will blitz like a MFr
ERs - Williams is progressing fast. Gipson (elevated) could surprise. Hung seems to be having a solid (maybe breakout) year
