49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
What it's like to have Kyle as a coach.

Someone asked me "what stuck out the most about Shanahan to you?" in regards to my time with the 49ers.

Here's my response:

1. He's a learner and his willingness to accept that he doesn't have all the answers was glaring. He also would go to the ends of the earth each week to…

— Kurt Benkert (@KurtBenkert) October 11, 2023

that's a vastly different perspective than the Kyle haters club lol. Shocking they have no clue who he really is

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
What it's like to have Kyle as a coach.

Someone asked me "what stuck out the most about Shanahan to you?" in regards to my time with the 49ers.

Here's my response:

1. He's a learner and his willingness to accept that he doesn't have all the answers was glaring. He also would go to the ends of the earth each week to…

— Kurt Benkert (@KurtBenkert) October 11, 2023

that's a vastly different perspective than the Kyle haters club lol. Shocking they have no clue who he really is

Ok, let's not get carried away.

I definitely give credit to Kyle for doing a very good job given the current circumstances, but this whole "let's all hold hands and sing Kyle's praises" nonsense needs to stop.

He still has to prove he can win the big one.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
What it's like to have Kyle as a coach.

Someone asked me "what stuck out the most about Shanahan to you?" in regards to my time with the 49ers.

Here's my response:

1. He's a learner and his willingness to accept that he doesn't have all the answers was glaring. He also would go to the ends of the earth each week to…

— Kurt Benkert (@KurtBenkert) October 11, 2023

that's a vastly different perspective than the Kyle haters club lol. Shocking they have no clue who he really is

Ok, let's not get carried away.

I definitely give credit to Kyle for doing a very good job given the current circumstances, but this whole "let's all hold hands and sing Kyle's praises" nonsense needs to stop.

He still has to prove he can win the big one.

So do the majority of NFL HCs.

And I don't think people are saying Kyle is perfect. He has his flaws, it's ok to call them out - like his reluctance to really spend on the OL(though you can argue somewhat against that as well)

But simply give him the respect he deserves and don't be looking to change coaches simply because you're upset at him not being able to win those SBs(while ignoring that he was a big reason we got to those games in the first place)

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
What it's like to have Kyle as a coach.

Someone asked me "what stuck out the most about Shanahan to you?" in regards to my time with the 49ers.

Here's my response:

1. He's a learner and his willingness to accept that he doesn't have all the answers was glaring. He also would go to the ends of the earth each week to…

— Kurt Benkert (@KurtBenkert) October 11, 2023

that's a vastly different perspective than the Kyle haters club lol. Shocking they have no clue who he really is

Ok, let's not get carried away.

I definitely give credit to Kyle for doing a very good job given the current circumstances, but this whole "let's all hold hands and sing Kyle's praises" nonsense needs to stop.

He still has to prove he can win the big one.

Exactly. The hypocrisy in this thread is telling. His fans will label, mock, insult etc all the ppl that criticize him, then follow up with posts and links that praise him like a Demi-God. Someone posts a link to Sherman praising Shanahan and it's followed by a thousand thumbs up replies. I post a link of Charvarius Ward calling out Kyle for screwing up the game plan in SB 2019 and he gets butchered for not knowing anything.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Exactly. The hypocrisy in this thread is telling. His fans will label, mock, insult etc all the ppl that criticize him, then follow up with posts and links that praise him like a Demi-God. Someone posts a link to Sherman praising Shanahan and it's followed by a thousand thumbs up replies. I post a link of Charvarius Ward calling out Kyle for screwing up the game plan in SB 2019 and he gets butchered for not knowing anything.

If you want Kyle fired or don't think he can win a SB you deserve to be mocked.

Originally posted by Koldo:
Ok, let's not get carried away.

I definitely give credit to Kyle for doing a very good job given the current circumstances, but this whole "let's all hold hands and sing Kyle's praises" nonsense needs to stop.

He still has to prove he can win the big one.

Yeah just like a ton of HCs…not to mention some of the ones who haven't won a SB in like 10-15 yrs with much better QB play.

He's doing the same thing he's been doing since he got here. Built up a great culture, has a good personnel (coaches and players) that fit that plan and will always have this team competing regardless of who's on the field…That's all you can ask for in your HC.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Exactly. The hypocrisy in this thread is telling. His fans will label, mock, insult etc all the ppl that criticize him, then follow up with posts and links that praise him like a Demi-God. Someone posts a link to Sherman praising Shanahan and it's followed by a thousand thumbs up replies. I post a link of Charvarius Ward calling out Kyle for screwing up the game plan in SB 2019 and he gets butchered for not knowing anything.

No you didn't.

That's the problem. You don't even understand what you're posting. I don't believe that you're stupid so either you're that stubborn to make a point that you have complete blinders on or you're trolling. Which one is it?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Exactly. The hypocrisy in this thread is telling. His fans will label, mock, insult etc all the ppl that criticize him, then follow up with posts and links that praise him like a Demi-God. Someone posts a link to Sherman praising Shanahan and it's followed by a thousand thumbs up replies. I post a link of Charvarius Ward calling out Kyle for screwing up the game plan in SB 2019 and he gets butchered for not knowing anything.

If you want Kyle fired or don't think he can win a SB you deserve to be mocked.

Yes I want him to be fired. And he hasn't won a SB in about a decade. If he wins one in year 18, I'm not sure his supporters would be in any position to say 'we told you' even though they will…

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Exactly. The hypocrisy in this thread is telling. His fans will label, mock, insult etc all the ppl that criticize him, then follow up with posts and links that praise him like a Demi-God. Someone posts a link to Sherman praising Shanahan and it's followed by a thousand thumbs up replies. I post a link of Charvarius Ward calling out Kyle for screwing up the game plan in SB 2019 and he gets butchered for not knowing anything.

No you didn't.

That's the problem. You don't even understand what you're posting. I don't believe that you're stupid so either you're that stubborn to make a point that you have complete blinders on or you're trolling. Which one is it?

O really ? Please translate for us then. What exactly was Ward saying here.

"Gameplan was to put the ball into Jimmy's [Garoppolo] hands. I hate to say this. I hate to say it. Our gameplan was to put the ball into Jimmy's hand. But Kyle Shanahan, he was just calling run after run. But for some reason in the 4th quarter they stopped running the ball and we kind of took over a little bit.

I don't want to say too much about it because I'm part of the organization now. Going into the game we were extremely confident, but once y'all came out doing all that what y'all doing, we were like 'Damn, these boys are kinda good. We gotta like man up and thud up.' And that's kinda like what we did in the fourth quarter."

Originally posted by DrEll:
Yes I want him to be fired. And he hasn't won a SB in about a decade. If he wins one in year 18, I'm not sure his supporters would be in any position to say 'we told you' even though they will…

Why you get mocked. Ridiculous

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
What it's like to have Kyle as a coach.

Someone asked me "what stuck out the most about Shanahan to you?" in regards to my time with the 49ers.

Here's my response:

1. He's a learner and his willingness to accept that he doesn't have all the answers was glaring. He also would go to the ends of the earth each week to…

— Kurt Benkert (@KurtBenkert) October 11, 2023

that's a vastly different perspective than the Kyle haters club lol. Shocking they have no clue who he really is

Ok, let's not get carried away.

I definitely give credit to Kyle for doing a very good job given the current circumstances, but this whole "let's all hold hands and sing Kyle's praises" nonsense needs to stop.

He still has to prove he can win the big one.

So do the majority of NFL HCs.

And I don't think people are saying Kyle is perfect. He has his flaws, it's ok to call them out - like his reluctance to really spend on the OL(though you can argue somewhat against that as well)

But simply give him the respect he deserves and don't be looking to change coaches simply because you're upset at him not being able to win those SBs(while ignoring that he was a big reason we got to those games in the first place)

You would think that we would invest heavily in a good OLine given the production he gets out of no name RBs, had a QB on a rookie contract, gets C-B+ wide receivers play like stars...why wasn't more invested in the OLine? I'm loving what he's doing this year, but they need to pump more money in the OLine and stop investing in other areas where the scheme covers up and masks a lot of things.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yeah just like a ton of HCs…not to mention some of the ones who haven't won a SB in like 10-15 yrs with much better QB play.

He's doing the same thing he's been doing since he got here. Built up a great culture, has a good personnel (coaches and players) that fit that plan and will always have this team competing regardless of who's on the field…That's all you can ask for in your HC.

Yup...

We've lost 15 games by 14+ points under Kyle in 151 games he's coached for us. That means we've been pretty much in 90% of our games.

And the majority of those big time loses we didn't have our starting QB available and the one playoff game...no QBs available.

One thing unfortunately Kyle hasn't been able to control is the injury plague and the officiating going against us more times than not. I have no doubt had we had better luck in that department we'd have 2 Lombardis for Kyle at minimum if not 4.

I believe the biggest difference in the run game success last night was that Kyle was willing to simplify things and just run power gap most of the time versus his zone blocking scheme which requires more finesse. He took advantage of of Atlanta's quick but light DL and just rammed the ball right at them. That makes it easier for the OL to block. There is no offensive lineman that ever played football that didn't prefer playing smash-mouth versus a fool-em type game. Not only did the run game work better last night as a result, the fact the OL was having success blocking for runs but also was better in pass protection due to the confidence the run blocking gave them.

Kudos to Kyle.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Exactly. The hypocrisy in this thread is telling. His fans will label, mock, insult etc all the ppl that criticize him, then follow up with posts and links that praise him like a Demi-God. Someone posts a link to Sherman praising Shanahan and it's followed by a thousand thumbs up replies. I post a link of Charvarius Ward calling out Kyle for screwing up the game plan in SB 2019 and he gets butchered for not knowing anything.

No you didn't.

That's the problem. You don't even understand what you're posting. I don't believe that you're stupid so either you're that stubborn to make a point that you have complete blinders on or you're trolling. Which one is it?

O really ? Please translate for us then. What exactly was Ward saying here.

"Gameplan was to put the ball into Jimmy's [Garoppolo] hands. I hate to say this. I hate to say it. Our gameplan was to put the ball into Jimmy's hand. But Kyle Shanahan, he was just calling run after run. But for some reason in the 4th quarter they stopped running the ball and we kind of took over a little bit.

I don't want to say too much about it because I'm part of the organization now. Going into the game we were extremely confident, but once y'all came out doing all that what y'all doing, we were like 'Damn, these boys are kinda good. We gotta like man up and thud up.' And that's kinda like what we did in the fourth quarter."

I don't need to translate anything. It's written in english. I expect you to be able to read what it says and not turn it into something it doesn't.

Highlight for me where it says Kyle Shananan screwed up the gameplan in the SB or where he calls out Kyle? Literally the only mention of Kyle in that quote has Kyle calling run plays.

I already told you what happened in the 4th quarter and there was no "Kyle screwing up the game plan" 49ers were running the ball except for two plays when you could realistically claim they should've ran.

One play was canned by Garoppolo from a run to a pass. The other was a wide open play where Chris Jones batted the pass down.

The quote you bring up literally shows what a good coach Shanahan is...

Originally posted by Silky:
You would think that we would invest heavily in a good OLine given the production he gets out of no name RBs, had a QB on a rookie contract, gets C-B+ wide receivers play like stars...why wasn't more invested in the OLine? I'm loving what he's doing this year, but they need to pump more money in the OLine and stop investing in other areas where the scheme covers up and masks a lot of things.

Yeah I don't know what's going through his head on that honestly.

To be fair you can't simply take your pick of FA/draft...you have to deal with other teams wanting theirs too.

Obviously when Kyle wants an OLman he goes after them. I know when we drafted McGlinchey in 2018 I was distraught, though in part because I didn't see a need with Staley and Trent Brown. Obviously Kyle didn't think Brown was the right fit and figured McGlinchey was going to be our RT of the future and maybe even replacement for Joe in time. That didn't quite work out like that but McGlinchey is still a solid starter in the NFL...just not for us.

We made the huge move for Trent Williams and paid him accordingly. Who knows where we would be if Weston Richburg never hurt his knee. I feel strongly had he not gotten hurt we may win that 2019 SB.

Alex Mack - quick retirement. Aaron Banks taken in the 2nd round(I know I wasn't a big fan of the pick but I think they took him more cuz of Lance being drafted)

I do think Kyle doesn't give the interior guys enough love. Puni looked like a great pick and I still think he'll bounce back and is playing hurt. I just don't get the Brendel love...hate to say it but hopefully that injury will be for the best with Hennessy playing well for us.

But yes, I think we need to make an effort to bring in talent at OL and build those guys up like we try to with the later round picks and hope we find ourselves with an elite OL again. Control the trenches and good things will happen.