49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

My current evolved opinion is he is an amazing offensive coach and play designer. He is an excellent HC, but lapses as he has issues with game management at times. Especially late game etc. He is obviously not as astute with Defense or special teams like offense, but that's why you surround yourself with good coaches and he has certainly tried that over his tenure with some great successes and some blunders. I think that's about as fair a take as I can muster at this time.

The injury thing is just insane. I think it's obvious players needs MORE practice as the quality of play across the league and college is going down. So the rumor of him pushing them hard during practices maybe has merit, but I agree with him. Maybe if the league did a new CBA where they agreed to practice more all year (like the old days) I wonder if it would improve. I think NIL is another newer dynamic that is hurting the quality of the sport.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
As a huge Kyle supporter, I swear, he better not go to bed after this season like "I did it! I won another Super Bowl when you adjust for injuries!!! 😇😇😇"

Have you ever heard Kyle say something like that?

Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
The sad thing is if Kyle gets us into the playoffs, it will actually hurt his legacy because we'll probably not win it all with the injuries we've had and ppl will get on him for losing even more in the playoffs...

its a lose lose situation for him lol...

Kyle has become the new Marty Schottenheimer, except his legacy will be worse.

This is an absurd take.

Schottenheimer coached for 21 seasons and has made a conference game just once. In his 21 seasons as an NFL HC, he has 5 playoff wins.

Shanahan has 8 wins and is in his 9th season as HC.

The new Dan Reeves might be a better comparison.

Actually, you're right, that probably is a better comparison. Either way, both guys are winless in championships.

He's actually close to Marv Levy. Both will have no SBs to their name despite multiple chances.

Still holding out hope he can end up like Andy Reid.

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by genus49:
So you ignored the question about Kyle having his Elway. I wonder why...

And I also have no clue what you're talking about. 6 min left with a two score lead? When did this happen?

And we're still trying to act like he didn't know the OT rules in the SB? This is straight up lying. You know it and yet you keep playing that ridiculous take like it's factual.

And you're not bringing up the 28 point lead because it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the offensive coordinator. I've never seen a HC with a defensive background get away with virtually any criticism in a loss like that(25 point lead btw)

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/did-49ers-players-know-overtime-rules-are-different-in-playoffs

Chiefs started that drive just under 9 minutes left in the 4th quarter. Down by 10, they actually already scored the TD in the image above since the play with the TD happened at 6:17 in the game.

You have no problem putting the 28-3 collapse on Shanahan as the OC but no problem with Saleh giving up those TDs late in that SB?

How about Garoppolo's play in the game? Shanahan can't hit Sanders for him. All that and if the officiating wasn't so slanted towards KC they still win that game.

That's the issue here. You guys can't make a rational leap to understand when the coach is to blame vs player execution. Heck you can't even be consistent in which coach you blame...

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
The sad thing is if Kyle gets us into the playoffs, it will actually hurt his legacy because we'll probably not win it all with the injuries we've had and ppl will get on him for losing even more in the playoffs...

its a lose lose situation for him lol...

Kyle has become the new Marty Schottenheimer, except his legacy will be worse.

This is an absurd take.

Schottenheimer coached for 21 seasons and has made a conference game just once. In his 21 seasons as an NFL HC, he has 5 playoff wins.

Shanahan has 8 wins and is in his 9th season as HC.

The new Dan Reeves might be a better comparison.

Actually, you're right, that probably is a better comparison. Either way, both guys are winless in championships.

He's actually close to Marv Levy. Both will have no SBs to their name despite multiple chances.

Still holding out hope he can end up like Andy Reid.

I'd rather Don Shula.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by genus49:
So you ignored the question about Kyle having his Elway. I wonder why...

And I also have no clue what you're talking about. 6 min left with a two score lead? When did this happen?

And we're still trying to act like he didn't know the OT rules in the SB? This is straight up lying. You know it and yet you keep playing that ridiculous take like it's factual.

And you're not bringing up the 28 point lead because it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the offensive coordinator. I've never seen a HC with a defensive background get away with virtually any criticism in a loss like that(25 point lead btw)

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/did-49ers-players-know-overtime-rules-are-different-in-playoffs

Chiefs started that drive just under 9 minutes left in the 4th quarter. Down by 10, they actually already scored the TD in the image above since the play with the TD happened at 6:17 in the game.

You have no problem putting the 28-3 collapse on Shanahan as the OC but no problem with Saleh giving up those TDs late in that SB?

How about Garoppolo's play in the game? Shanahan can't hit Sanders for him. All that and if the officiating wasn't so slanted towards KC they still win that game.

That's the issue here. You guys can't make a rational leap to understand when the coach is to blame vs player execution. Heck you can't even be consistent in which coach you blame...

Ahhhh, the coach is never to blame….got it👍

Originally posted by Patton:
Ahhhh, the coach is never to blame….got it👍

I didn't say that. As usual you can't actually respond to factual information provided against your narrative so you pivot to hyperbole.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Patton:
Ahhhh, the coach is never to blame….got it👍

I didn't say that. As usual you can't actually respond to factual information provided against your narrative so you pivot to hyperbole.

0-3, when Kyle changes that, then he'll change his rep.

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Patton:
Ahhhh, the coach is never to blame….got it👍

I didn't say that. As usual you can't actually respond to factual information provided against your narrative so you pivot to hyperbole.

0-3, when Kyle changes that, then he'll change his rep.

I always thought it was weird how there's a non-significant segment of fans who believe getting to the Super Bowl and then losing is somehow worse than not making it there. It makes no sense to me. If you want to say losing the Super Bowl is basically the same as not making it, sure fine I can understand. But there is no rational mathematical objective way you can convince a reasonable person that getting to the Super Bowl and losing is somehow WORSE than not getting there. It's like saying being married for only 10 years is worse than never being married.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Patton:
Ahhhh, the coach is never to blame….got it👍

I didn't say that. As usual you can't actually respond to factual information provided against your narrative so you pivot to hyperbole.

0-3, when Kyle changes that, then he'll change his rep.

I always thought it was weird how there's a non-significant segment of fans who believe getting to the Super Bowl and then losing is somehow worse than not making it there. It makes no sense to me. If you want to say losing the Super Bowl is basically the same as not making it, sure fine I can understand. But there is no rational mathematical objective way you can convince a reasonable person that getting to the Super Bowl and losing is somehow WORSE than not getting there. It's like saying being married for only 10 years is worse than never being married.

some fans enjoy watching their team play competitive playoff football, and some fans would rather wake up the morning after the SB with no memory of anything and a trophy in the case.
really comes down to, who enjoys watching the game of football and who doesn't

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Patton:
Ahhhh, the coach is never to blame….got it👍

I didn't say that. As usual you can't actually respond to factual information provided against your narrative so you pivot to hyperbole.

0-3, when Kyle changes that, then he'll change his rep.

I always thought it was weird how there's a non-significant segment of fans who believe getting to the Super Bowl and then losing is somehow worse than not making it there. It makes no sense to me. If you want to say losing the Super Bowl is basically the same as not making it, sure fine I can understand. But there is no rational mathematical objective way you can convince a reasonable person that getting to the Super Bowl and losing is somehow WORSE than not getting there. It's like saying being married for only 10 years is worse than never being married.

some fans enjoy watching their team play competitive playoff football, and some fans would rather wake up the morning after the SB with no memory of anything and a trophy in the case.
really comes down to, who enjoys watching the game of football and who doesn't

Patton's and DrEll's logic is even stranger than that, though. The logic you just outlined is basically "you either win the Super Bowl or you're one of the 31 teams who didn't" which, while I don't completely agree, I can somewhat rationalize and understand it. There's people who firmly believe there's 1st place and then not 1st place and that's it, and they're allowed to think like that.

But what Patton and DrEll believe, is that if you get to the Super Bowl and then lose, it somehow magically counts as a NEGATIVE Super Bowl trophy. I do not understand that logic one bit. To me that's just something Lions or Jaguars or Texans or Browns fans tell themselves to make themselves feel better about never sniffing a Super Bowl "well… at least we've never LOST a Super Bowl so we're actually not as much of a loser as the Chiefs last season! 😇"

It's such bizarre logic that I can't even begin to try rationalizing it.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by tohara3:

Originally posted by 9moon:
When two EVEN teams meet... the game is decided by the HEAD COACH !!

That was not 2 even teams today at all

HOW do you not see that, cause we didn't have BOSA?

HC: SF
Coaching Staff: SF
Injuries: Tie
QB: TB
RB: SF
WR: TB
TE: TIE
OL: TB
DL: TB
LB: SF
DB: TB
PK: SF
P: Tie
ST: TB

agree??

For years you've continuously said Kyle sucks as a head coach but now we have the better head coach? Way to stay consistent.
lol

you're blind if you say TB coach is better than KS...

wait... you don't think TB coach is better, DO YOU??

Originally posted by Montana:
I wonder which team Shans will be the HC of next

HE gone to LV!!
HE gone to LV !!!

Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
The sad thing is if Kyle gets us into the playoffs, it will actually hurt his legacy because we'll probably not win it all with the injuries we've had and ppl will get on him for losing even more in the playoffs...

its a lose lose situation for him lol...

Kyle has become the new Marty Schottenheimer, except his legacy will be worse.

This is an absurd take.

Schottenheimer coached for 21 seasons and has made a conference game just once. In his 21 seasons as an NFL HC, he has 5 playoff wins.

Shanahan has 8 wins and is in his 9th season as HC.

The new Dan Reeves might be a better comparison.

Actually, you're right, that probably is a better comparison. Either way, both guys are winless in championships.

He's actually close to Marv Levy. Both will have no SBs to their name despite multiple chances.

NAHH NAHH NAHHH... Levy a better HC.. he went to 4 straight SB which is harder to do... only the Giants team was not better than his Bills.. Both Dallas and Washington were better than Buffalo...

While KYLE's 49ers were BOTH better than KC teams..

Shanny is a combo of Martz and Wyche..

Originally posted by 9moon:
NAHH NAHH NAHHH... Levy a better HC.. he went to 4 straight SB which is harder to do... only the Giants team was not better than his Bills.. Both Dallas and Washington were better than Buffalo...

While KYLE's 49ers were BOTH better than KC teams..

Shanny is a combo of Martz and Wyche..

A SB team with Jimmy G as QB is not better than a team with Patrick Mahomes as QB.